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People who need help should turn to private companies? Huh? What? You do understand that you have to pay private companies for things, right? If these folks had money for that, they wouldn't need help, now would they? Taxation = theft. I was waiting for that. :huh: Was that from Atlas Shrugged or The Fountainhead? Ayn Rand…

Have you ever needed welfare, Social Security or Medicare ma'am? How about Food stamps? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A Day in the Life of Joe Joe gets up at 6:00 AM to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot with good, clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his…

You're related to a knucklehead, congratulations. Actually, fairly few people have that point of view.

Yep,, ****ens D|ckens, D!ckens. BTW - both of my parents dropped out of high school. I went in the mil when I was 17 'cause they couldn't afford to feed me anymore. I went to college on Pell grants and a federally guaranteed Stafford student loan. And I paid back every penny. For folks with no family support system, that…

We've had unregulated everything in the past, read Charles D!ckens. Once upon a time there were no game wardens,,, take a look at the bison population for a look at how that turns out. We have USDA inspectors because the unregulated meat packing industry was so horrible that somebody wrote a book about it ('the jungle")…

"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other,…

I've been reading Ron Paul on www.lewrockwell.com for over 10 years. He's your kooky old great uncle. He has a ton of interesting ideas that might work if you could institute the whole program in one fell swoop - but his program cannot be instituted that way. Example,,, Paul would cut everybody's taxes to just about…

You said: "I'd never vote for a republican who wasn't fiscally conservative and for big government". It's all good, we knew what you meant.

I want to see Newt Gingrich debate Barack Obama. You could put that on pay-per-view.

That's me in a nutshell Mika,

Pro-choice = pro-abortion? Not true. I would love to stop abortion. I would love to make it never happen again. I am firmly anti-abortion. However,,, I believe that making abortion illegal would stop 1/4th of all abortions. It would also spawn a thriving black market in backalley butchery that would kill thousands of poor…

Carlin was far more than a mere comedian, and the above was his point of view. ""No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing"",,, have you listened to any of the recent R debates? This is pretty much their platform, and GC called it like he saw it.

Not true. I'm strongly anti-abortion. I hate it and think it should never happen, deeply opposed to abortion on moral grounds. However, I'm pro-choice because I don't believe legal prohibition is a reasonable solution to the problem.

I don't think I've ever met/heard/spoke with ANYBODY who was truly "pro-abortion".

They were troubled teens. We didn't really think in those terms, you don't change a 14 year old's last name. We fed them and loved them and raised them, but we didn't consider legal adoption. They're both outstanding young men.

True, no question mark there. I inferred a need for an explanation. You didn't ask for an explanation and clearly don't want one. Fair enough. On with the debate.

Here, let me fix this for you: We had a couple of fosters. They were not (PERFECT HEALTHY WHITE INFANT) children, and nobody was lining up to take them.

I didn't say that. I answered your question. Why do some folks have the perception that conservative 'pro-life' folks love fetuses but don't give a flip about children? Because most of them support politicians that wish to dismantle the safet net. That's how the perception is formed. If you say that's not fair, or a 'false…

Thoughts?

You get this because every "Pro-life" politician, which the vast majority of you folks support, is a Republican who wants to cut-gut-dismantle-remove the social safety net. They want to make abortion illegal, and in the next breath they want to take away the food stamps/S-chip/Medicaid/Head Start/WIC etc.etc.etc. that…

Jesus loving agnostic Unitarian Universalist.

Anybody who thinks they'd never shoplift has never been REALLY broke & hungry. Desperate people do desperate things.

Ya,,, but in some cases that "Alternate choice" involves a coathanger.

That's because Dr's have a little more respect for men and don't try to parent us. It's BS, but it is what it is. My wife had severe endometriosis and really needed a hysterectomy at 28, but she had to suffer for a couple of years. BS... I got my V when our youngest was a healthy 12 week old. I was 23 and nobody said a…

You didn't make that distinction clear Patti. You didn't say "My thought is XXXXX - The church's teaching is YYYYYYY". You just presented us with 2 different theories. Unclear, sorry.

Not at all. Never mind.

[/quote] Untouched quote - no "Editing for brevity". This is what Dog and I both responded to earlier. You say no abortion, unless it's ok, then it's Ok.

Ok, let's try again. You said that "An act directed towards protecting the mother that results in the death of the child may be justifiable". Abortion is an act that results in the death of an unborn child. That's what it is,,, that's almost the dictionary definition. Now let's imagine a circumstance where carrying the…

First off, mentioning that your view is "from the Catholic Church" does nothing. That is irrelevent to me. It's not my church. You stated that ""An act directed towards protecting the mother that results in the death of the child may be justifiable"" Do you not understand that once in a while, in a very rare occasion, the…

Again: I would bet that the vast majority of "Pro-Choice" folks feel this way. Just almost nobody really "Likes" abortion. Re: the original question. A group with an agenda. Yes,,, show Mr. & Mrs. America that while they're trying to watch a ballgame and eat a pretzel. Good luck with that.