lindsey1979 Member

Maybe the whole issue just circles around the type of people you hang out with. I've never personally encountered anyone in real life that was felt he/she was greatly enlightened by the concept of "eat less and move more". For the people I encounter, that's all pretty obvious and they'd even be a little insulted for you to…

I have a couple of questions for you: (1) You acknowledge some sources for possible error in your calorie counting -- like going to restaurants. How often is this happening? If it's only once a week or less, you're probably okay, but if it's several times per week, this could be the source of your issue. Calorie counts in…

I'm not sure it's totally useless, but it is pretty limited. It's fairly Captain Obvious. Now, giving people examples of HOW you managed to eat less and HOW you managed move more, now that's useful, pragmatic advice and information and what I suspect people are actually looking for with such inquiries. I think that's why…

I think it's the HOW which is why it's limited. Like the smoking example someone gave earlier. Telling someone to quit smoking is pretty simple, but figuring out HOW to accomplish that is the key. Same with the food issue -- most people get the general gist, but figuring out how to make that work for them and their lives…

Sometimes it's hard for people to see beyond their own perspective. Eating in moderation is easiest for some and not eating certain foods sounds painfully restrictive for them. For them, it wouldn't be as sustainable because they'd feel too deprived. Sometimes, such people, have a hard time understanding that people are…

I think the only caveat here is that for SOME, choosing to cut out foods they love actually can be easier. Some really struggle with certain foods, so avoiding them altogether is much easier than eating just a little of them. Or they realize that they feel much better without those foods in their diet, so it's easier to…

I'm in the yes and no camp. Yes, for most people it is really that simple from a baseline calculation perspective. But HOW they choose to create that deficit can vary greatly based on (1) their individual behavioral issues (what causes or contributes to the overeating in the first place) as well as (2) their individual…

Why in the world would you want to weigh 140 as a man? How tall are you? Granted I'm used to taller than average men, so may this isn't that unrealistic if you're on the shorter side, but I look at guys like Mark Wahlberg who isn't very tall (5'6" - 5'8" -- I've met him in real life and he's much closer to 5'6") and at his…

Yeah, it's pretty common. One of the things that you can do to help with that and to maximize your recovery after lifting (so you get the benefit of all your hard work) is to do a recovery drink. Protein and carbs is best. The ideal ration is 3-5 parts easily digestible carbs to 1 part protein (whey is some of the best…

Yeah. Sometimes it can be this way. I probably would have replied something more along the lines of saying, "well, yes, I am watching some of my carbs (like the pasta and bread examples) because I have a hard time limiting portions of certain carbs. But other carbs, especially certain vegetables, I eat a lot of. So, it…

I'm not getting into the idea of cheating -- in the end, you're only doing things that promote or discourage your goal. My caveat to you is that when you're not actually weighing your food, the actual food you can receive -- whether at a restaurant or in a package -- can be greater than it says it is. This is especially…

I do agree it's a lot, and with the reference to bloating in her belly, it sounds like something else is going on as well (the pregnancy inquiry may be relevant). But, I do remember Lyle in particular pointing out 10 lbs swings for some women -- where it literally could mask 2.5 months of work. If there is a low carb…

As some else pointed out, this is likely water retention. When you lift heavy (and the lovely soreness that goes with it), you'll tear muscle fibers. This is good, it's part of the repair process. But part of that repair/recovery process is that water will flood the muscles. That's why most of us go up a 1-3 lbs after a…

Perhaps we're just looking at this from a different perspective. I agree with you on glycogen re-synthesis, but I was looking at it from the perspective of recovery for muscle growth that you'd see in weight training versus recovery aimed more at endurance athletes (which Lyle differentiates at the beginning of the…

That's a good point, Psychgrrl makes. Do you have any idea your Free T3 and Free T4 numbers? You may also want to consider switching from synthetics to a natural dessicated thyroid like Armour, Naturethroid, etc. It is a medication with all the thyroid hormones -- not just T4. Some find (myself included) to just do better…

It's possible that you have other accessory issues at play -- many of us with thyroid problems also have other things going on too. My doc says that there are quit a few things that can piggyback off each other when one system goes out of whack -- it can create a domino effect where it's hard to see which is the chicken…

I doubt he intentionally overlooked it. Unless the research has changed since he wrote that article, he looked at (1) carbs-only post-workout nutrition, (2) protein-only post-workout nutrition and the (3) carbs and protein post-workout nutrition. From what he shows, carbs only was the worst choice for muscle synthesis…

Well, my doc responded and he said "since hormone levels do fluctuate with pregnancy, most notably, sex hormone binding globulin", it's possible that I am slightly hyper now. So he's reducing the dosage with the caveat that we can increase it again if I feel worse (which may be the case because he also noted that insomnia…

It sounds like you probably do know what is causing the weight gain. At the very least, you're likely taking in a couple more hundred cals from the sodas alone and likely burning a few hundred less that you were before. Since you're not logging, you're probably eating a LOT more than you realize. Stress can really push…

Okay, gotcha. I think there is the fundamental area of disagreement. Thanks for the clarification.

Since you're going through a cut, what are the macros you're looking to hit? Are you implementing any sort of IF regime and/or calorie cycling? A lot of people here are more focused on those that have a lot of weight to lose already, not those going through bulk/cut cycles. How you manipulate your macros most certainly can…

Well, that's the part that's confusing to me. Per Lyle, you see a better response with both carbs and protein than carbs alone: "The answer there is clearly protein alone which will be vastly superior to carbohydrate alone. Because while consuming carbohydrates will decrease protein breakdown, only protein will increase…

I agree with this too. I think many on MFP go waaaay too far on the whole demonizing of food. If you're prone to or have issues with disordered eating, yeah, maybe you need to think of food differently. But, if you don't have any issues, thinking of food as good/bad for your specific goals is just an easy shorthand for…

Thank you for the clarification. That helps. The only point where I'd see it being potentially contradictory still is the timing part. It seems to me that the timing of protein CAN be important. If you haven't eaten any protein within 3 hours or so before your workout, it seems that you'd benefit from BOTH protein and…

As many people have point out, the difference in your weight could just be water fluctuations based on glycogen stores (why keto diets lose a lot of weight initially -- the whoosing of water out of the system). You're already at a pretty decent weight given your height, so it may be very difficult to lose much more weight…

Well, that seems to contradict your previous agreement on the statement: "I'm going to stick with Lyle's explanation: " while protein alone is superior to carbohydrates alone, the combination of the two will have the greatest impact on promoting muscle growth (as well as having other beneficial effects on muscle glycogen,…

Yes, I generally agree with you. But, as he says in the other quote, eating BOTH protein and carbs post-workout appears to have the best effect (better than just protein or carbs alone) because of the increased insulin response (and obviously, having building blocks for glycogen and muscle synthesis). So if you've eaten…

Per Lyle: "When elevated (and I’d note here that while carbohydrate has the primary effect on raising insulin, protein also raises insulin; as well, the combination of protein and carbohydrate raises insulin more than either alone), insulin pushes nutrients into cells. So insulin stimulates glycogen storage in the liver,…

I totally agree with this. Chocolate milk is the poor man's recovery drink. Has easily digestible carbs - protein ratio at near ideal levels of 4:1.

I'm going to stick with Lyle's explanation: " while protein alone is superior to carbohydrates alone, the combination of the two will have the greatest impact on promoting muscle growth (as well as having other beneficial effects on muscle glycogen, etc)."…