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Do you mean muslce glycogen stores?? If you were to view fructose as a sole food source and outside the context of a normal diet, it is a horrible carb source to restore muscle glycogen. Fructose is used by very few tissues and cells directly, and instead is primarily metabolized in the liver. Obviously in a normal diet…

Source/quality of food plays no role in weight gain/loss. Calories in vs out.

What?

In! Was paying $29.99 with some other guy...

Why not just keep macros constant??

No, the primary determinant of P ratio is genetics (overall physiology and body fat percentage). Training and diet plays a role for sure, but the point is you aren't gaining more muscle because you choose complex carbs over simple carbs (when I stated macros, I meant make-up of particular macros - in this case carbs).…

Whatever floats your boat (seems more mental than anything though)... As stated earlier, you cannot alter your p-ratio. Genetics determines fat and muscle gain, not macros. You may THINK you are close to a 1:1 ratio, but unless you've done a dscan over points in your bulk, you have no way of knowing.

Calories in vs out for weight loss. Patience grasshopper...

IIFYM.com and other websites aren't exact. Its just a starting point, but you'll have to figure out what works best for you. Don't be scared about the carb amount - caloric deficit will determine weight loss. Carbs don't stall weight loss. A good place to start is .86g of protein/lbs, .35g fat/lbs (maybe a little higher…

That was exactly my point in an earlier debate with @AKDonF. Many individuals will focus on a small piece instead of the total picture, thereby making the small piece irrelevant. We all know that the results the OP has seen isn't due to slamming dextrose, especially since its only been a few weeks, and the concern here…

The majority of arguments I've seen center around your bolded statement and take an "all or nothing" approach. I call them arguments, because most included in the argument don't have a real understanding of the topic. One side either spews bro-science because it was told to them by some gear-head at the gym or by some…

Contrary to popular belief, you can have your cake AND eat it too... Calories in vs out determines weight loss/gain. No need to get rid of any foods in order to lose weight. Moderation is key. That being said, if chips or sweets are trigger foods for you, the problem is self control. Chips or sweets in and of themselves do…

^This. Your metabolism isn't a switch to turn off and on. Stop reading magazines at the checkout line in the grocery store...

Definitely agree with your first point. Carbs are king when bulking, and dextrose is inexpensive. It really does depend on the individual though - if you eat just for weight/muscle gain, and you don't care where your calories come from, then dextrose is a great option. For others, including myself, I'd rather eat and enjoy…

You're kidding, right? Willpower is the issue, not quality of calories.

Alcohol is 7 calories per gram. When factoring it into your overall macros, some take the approach of substituting either their carbs or fats, depending on which one you have more of to spare (with beer, I'll track both the carbs and alcohol content as carbs). Obviously it's not an exact, but its one way of tracking. As…

And? So?

Dude, it's YOU that's missing the point. No ONE food is healthy or unhealthy. And we aren't talking about weight as the only marker of health. And you obviously don't know this, but everyone that is replying to you has a wealth of knowledge. So ask yourself, is it us, or is it you? Just let it go...

Yeah bro, just stop. You're trying to change context and adjust an argument in order to make your point relevant - and it still isn't working. You state white flour and sugar have ntohing "beneficial to offer the body other than calories" - Do you realize that calories are the MOST BENEFICIAL thing for your body?? Without…

You too?!?!

But you can lose weight AND drink soda... don't see your point.

Problem solved...

Thought this thread was dead, come back to 48 new comments haha!!

1 pint is only 280 calories 12f/48c/28p. Get off your butt and find it lol

Halo Top ice cream. Vanilla Bean is pretty good actually...

^This. I believe Layne Norton did a study showing whey protein (30-40g) in itself is enough to spike insulin while stimulating muscle protein synthesis. Dextrose will create a slightly higher insulin response when taken with whey, thereby increasing MPS and mTor, but the anabolic effect post workout isn't significant when…

JO - That's because you're a beast... OP - What was your starting weight? 9kg is almost 20lb, less than 2 per month over 12 months. Depending on your weight gain goal, you could stand to put on more weight - .5-.6kg/week is a good start. As Jo stated, increase calories to see how you progress, and dial back if you feel you…

What are you looking to achieve? Weight loss? If so, the only requirement is a sufficient caloric deficit. Doesn't matter how you get yourself there... (obviously minimal fat and protein requirements should be met for health and hormonal reasons)