pennyllayne

Well I wasn't saying you're 50 cals off because you're not logging correctly, but because you cannot determine how your body is processing each type of food and some days you might expend more whilst other days you expend less. If foods have no immense pull to you then that's great for you. Not everyone has an emotional…

Talk about arguing for the sake of arguing...yeesh. Is responding to what someone says "arguing for the sake of arguing"? I'll admit when I'm wrong, but on this I've provided evidence and details. No one's provided anything to refute what I've said. I'm actually here to share information. If I'm going to be in the health…

No I never said you couldn't easily just lower your calories again to make up for the gained weight, but my point was that you can't determine an exact amount of cals needed to maintain your weight or how many cals you are burning with each type of food. So the only way around it is to either be under calorie goals but not…

I wasn't talking about exercise goals, I was referring to when they set your weight loss goals it asks for your activity level and ups your calories based on that. Aside from that there is also a setting for exercise goals which doesn't impact allowed calories unless you add that exercise to your diet every day.

You don't have to create a deficit of 2258 calories per day to see a scale loss of 20lbs in 31 days, only to see actual fat and muscle loss. The more likely scenario is that after being on a diet that caused water retention, much of that has been lost and the actual fat and muscle loss is much lower than 20llbs. Water loss…

It does depend how long you have been dieting for. If it's been a few weeks or months and weight loss has stalled, your metabolism has likely lowered to adapt to the new calorie level. Additionally, after dieting for a while thyroid and leptin levels plummet too and this makes weight loss not only slower but far more…

Yeah I don't think I ever claimed that someone could gain weight at a deficit of 800 cals a day, I'm simply trying to find out what has happened in this situation. I happen to be studying nutrition and therefore this kind of thing is something I would find helpful in looking into. If you see my post above, I think I have…

Even if her TDEE was overestimated, it seems highly unlikely that it was so low to enable a gain of 30lbs in 8 weeks. As someone above said, she would have had to have been eating an excess of 1875 calories to gain that amount of fat so her TDEE would have to have been less than zero. Impossible obviously. Even if we…

Butter and salt! Yum!!

Jeez, why is everyone here so obsessed with food?? ;)

No there's a section when you set your goals that asks how active you are and it changes your maintenance cals based on what you select, but that might just be down to how active you are in your day in general as opposed to working out.

EXPLAIN THAT. I am eating MORE than my TDEE and have most 20 pounds over the past 31 days. [/quote] How do you know your TDEE was 2200? It sounds like your TDEE was under 1400 to me. For the record, if you can store excess fat and put on weight overall while eating less calories than your body is using just to stay alive,…

So why does it ask you how often you exercise and increase cals based on that then? I figured you can either just eat those cals it gives you for the estimated exercise OR you take your maintenance cals and then add exercise. Anyway, I base it on being sedentary anyway and then add my exercise. But as I say, I think the…

Oh well that's great that you can see into your body and track everything it's doing. You are obviously very special.

My example was in response to another user who claimed that weight loss rates between people will be exactly the same if they were on the same diet. I was saying that wasn't true and that we don't all have the same rate of burning fat and we process different foods differently. Maybe you missed those posts, I don't know,…

It allows you to select activity level. I do set mine at sedentary and then put exercise cals on top of that, but that's not really the point I'm getting at. I'm quite sure, based on experience, that 1750 is too high for my body if I am sedentary because I've gained weight on less than that and gained a lot more than I…

Do you have some device that determines exactly how your body processes every calorie from every type of food? If not then I've proved my point. If you eat the same foods every day and the same calories then you may be able to find a calorie level where you can maintain at, but even then you could still be over by 50…

Except someone who I was responding to was actually claiming that could not happen. It'd be great if everyone could accept that we're all different but many people can't, so you have to repeat stuff. Hardly my fault is it and really no need for the condescending attitude is there?

I would agree that a lot of it could be water, especially if the person was eating low carb beforehand. But 30lbs of water?? In fact it's have to be MORE than 30lbs of water as you should still be losing fat so if you're losing fat and your weight increases by 30lbs then you have gained more than 30lbs overall if it…

It's like you just want to nitpick...I already explained above what I meant about maintenance because it's impossible to know what your maintenance requirements are exactly. E.g. MFP says my maintenance cals are about 1750, I highly doubt it's that high at all and I imagine if I ate that amount I would gain weight. And…

Smart *kitten* ;)

I like carbs too, but aside from the nutrients in fruit and veg we do not need them. Our brains can get glucose from other sources, we don't need carbs.

Yeah that's what they said before the discovery of leptin. A hormone that regulates how much fat you store in your body? Never! Just someone's figment of their imagination.

Did anyone offer you advice of why this was happening? It does sound very curious, but as I don't claim to know everything about weight loss and health I'm not going to conclude that you must be lying simply because there is no other way I can believe it. Science changes all the time, there is a lot we don't know. I'm not…

Well you're twisting my words, aren't you? I've said a number of times that it's difficult to determine how many calories our bodies burn and therefore you can not actually know exactly what your maintenance calories are. So if you take a general calculation of maintenance calories (say using MFP) and eat that you can…

Oh well if you say so it must be true ;)...never mind the studies that do show a difference, we'll just take your word shall we?

Oh jesus :D. I said it's more than that, I didn't say calories don't matter. Meaning a calorie deficit as well as eating foods that your body can effectively process for many people. So someone with a tendency to store carbs as fat eating at maintenance on carbs alone will be able to gain weight because their body isn't…

I edited my post to include a study showing very different effects on energy expenditure on different diets. You can see the individual variations, so please don't tell me that all foods react the same for everybody. I no longer even know what you mean by weight loss. You don't mean fat loss, you don't mean muscle loss,…

I never said calories DON'T matter for some of us! Please point out exactly where I said that. I have said a calorie deficit is needed in EVERY case but rates of weight loss will be different depending on what is eaten. I never said you CAN'T lose weight only eating twinkies, did I? And yes, it has been said many times…

No you're twisting my words. I said it's not ONLY about calories. I do not disagree that a calorie deficit is needed, but in many cases it is not the only factor. the guy who I quoted did actually say that weight loss will occur at the same rate for everyone no matter what is eaten and you have quoted my response to him.…