Replies
-
I don't know what the op was or wasn't trying to say, I can't read minds, only.what was written here. The way I read it, he and several others were implying that there are absolutely no benefits in choosing foods free of artificial additives over those that have them. Regardless of other diet context, I believe foods CAN…
-
Okay, clearly I'm orthorexic then :smiley: Along with my spouse, parents, in-laws, siblings, and pretty much every other person in our friend circle and all other moms I personally know who all share the same views (in fact many of them are much stricter and consider me overly relaxed in some of these things :wink:)…
-
Actually yes, they probably would be, if I were using good quality organic veggies, even better seasonal and local. As for the chicken, this is what's in Pizza Hut's chicken: Chicken, Water, Modified Tapioca Starch, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, Dextrose, Salt, Flavour, Spice, Sodium Phosphate, Spice Extractives,Tricalcium…
-
Where did you read the word 'sabotaging'? People are a bit dramatic on here, sabotage, orthorexia, lol. No I don't cry about it at night and if I did, I probably would make the effort to make my own pasta or whatever (I already make my own yogurt and farmer's cheese often and bake most things except bread from scratch,…
-
Yes, in fact the original post and next few replies implied exactly that. There was NO discussion of moderation or diet context or 'sometimes' eating anywhere in the first page of the post. That was it. I responded to the original (albeit rhetorical) question, and got bombarded with arguments of moderation and sensible…
-
I wouldn't use pepperoni if we were making at it home, we would use grilled chicken breast and plenty of fresh veggies and homemade sauce. If you honestly believe there is no difference between a homemade food made with quality ingredients over fast food made with the cheapest highly processed ingredients and flavor…
-
You missed my point. I never said that "someone who is okay with their children sometimes having frosting is going to never going to buy strawberries". What I said is that it's silly for an informed person to argue that there is no difference between fresh strawberries and icing, and that one is not superior to the other…
-
We're talking about two different things here. You are talking about choices and diet. I am talking about knowledge and comparing foods - simply on their own, in isolation, regardless if you eat them once a year or every day. And yes, I believe there are gradations of good, not-so-good, and bad (hence the term 'junk' btw,…
-
Wasn't talking about moderation for weight reasons here, only health/ nutrition as that's what we were discussing here. I have yet to hear anyone make excuses for feeding their kids too many fresh fruit and veggies and homemade meals. 'we've been so busy all week we've only eaten at home, even baked our own cookies, better…
-
Oh ffs. Why do we have to turn to strawmen everywhere?? No, making your kid a birthday cake with pink icing doesn't make you a bad mother. Yes, dyeing the cream cheese with it every day because they won't eat it otherwise, along with feeding them Fruit Loops for breakfast, happy meals for lunch, doritos and pop for a snack…
-
If we're doing this. I have fair skin with lots of moles and hence a high risk factor for skin cancer. I stay out of harsh sun when possible. I wear sunscreen. I don't tan and avoid being out during the hottest hours of the day and never use tanning beds. I know plenty of people who lay around tanning for hours or use…
-
No you weren't, because you chose a natural method to add that color. Why didn't you just add in food coloring? According to the thread, there is no benefit in using beet juice instead of red food dye. Waiting for the argument now that red dye is actually made from insects so it's in fact natural...
-
Yes, I noticed that too! It's actually more noticeable in them than 'regular' people. I had a boss once who had two young daughters. All three of them, beautiful Persian women, were perfectly slender all throughout their top half, yet had very wide hips, large rears and heavy legs. Like two different people top and bottom.…
-
I believe bodies are different, not necessarily as somatypes but some will have wider, stocky builds while others are lean and 'willowy'. In serious ballet schools, young dancers are assessed for their body types and some simply won't make the cut based on not having the right frame, regardless of their eating and training…
-
Sure; but I just don't see the point in adding artificial coloring to yogurt or whatever. What's wrong with just, you know, yogurt? Add some fruit or honey to it. You can freeze fruit and veg without artificial preservatives too. In most cases, these things are added simply as a marketing gimmick - because it's cheaper to…
-
In exactly which post did I mention either of these 'scenarios'?? If you actually read my posts, you'll see that I've repeated several times I was only discussing the different types of foods, and NOT their place/dosage/context within a balanced diet because that was not part of the original post. Dosage and context is…
-
Err I don't "decide" that, it's just a fact. I'm picky with my food and I take the time to find out what's in them. Pastries for me don't mean the ones out in boxes at walmart, I mean either home baked or from a good bakery that does not use artificial additives. I had the experience once of getting a raspberry eclair from…
-
I didn't bother because this is a stupid question. Of course the big mac guy would live longer (provided he hopefully isn't prone to high cholesterol or heart disease or already overweight and won't keel over from a heart attack), because he is the only one you've deemed to provide with a complete protein, fat, and carb…
-
Please enlighten me then. Exactly what health benefits are provided by artificial flavorings, artificial color, artificial sweeteners, or artificial preservatives?
-
We're talking about different things here. Again, the OP didn't ask "is eating the occasional junk food detrimental to your health in the context of an overall balanced diet?". The way he worded his post made it sound as if he sees no difference between 'natural' and 'unnatural' foods at all and therefore they're entirely…
-
Well, the original post had no mention of context or dosage. The question (that I now understand was rhetorical and not an actual discussion, silly me) was: So all you out there, what makes these "other" food "unnatural" I answered: what makes it unnatural is the fact that it is, unnatural. Because Yellow #42 does not…
-
'Naturally sourced' doesn't mean seasonal or local or non-processed. Or do you live somewhere where no food gets imported?
-
I don't need definitions or labels to tell me if a product is natural or not... I can read an ingredient list. "Marketing BS" is dyeing macaroni with fake orange coloring pretending it's cheese. Or "cream" filled cakes that are shelf-stable and don't expire for years. Or selling 'healthy' yogurt where they replace the fat…
-
Yes,and all medications have side effects and few would argue that they are 'good for you' or 'healthy'. Which is why you don't see actual healthy people popping medications. And even something as benign as Tylenol is arguably not great for you and should not be eaten as candy. It is quite simply a necessary evil when it…
-
Sure, what does that have to do with it?? Speaking of strawmen. It's great that people with no access to food or water can benefit from these types of foods rather than starve. For them it provides a clear benefit. What benefit do preservatives provide for me as a first world country resident who has access to food in its…
-
Haha. As a short, small, sedentary woman close to goal weight , my maintenance is around 1400-1500 and losing .5 lb a week means 1200. Leaving a margin for failure is much much harder than with another 1000 calories.
-
If we're talking strictly weight loss and calories, of course it doesn't matter. If we're talking health... I personally believe that any foods or ingredients that are created entirely artificially, ie. do not occur in nature in any form, cannot be good for you. I'm not a microbiologist so I won't claim to know exactly how…
-
I was more referring to the fact that figuring out your true TDEE and the deficit you need to lose is very difficult for many people who deviate in some way from the healthy norm (metabolic disorders, very low muscle mass, etc). People say 'adjust based on real-life results' but between things like water weight…
-
I don't think anyone is arguing against the physical principle of CICO. For the purpose of discussion here, I see it as a synonym for calorie counting, or not necessarily counting but basically consciously limiting caloric intake to lose weight. I think any debate on the topic should focus around that and not go around and…
-
Oh really? Let me copy over some relevant quotes from the thread for you: These are just what I've read in the first ten pages or so, I'm sure there's more.
