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Here's another example. My second pregnancy, I had morning sickness and bad food aversion the whole first trimester, I couldn't eat and survived on almost nothing - literally maybe a piece of toast and a couple of granny smith apples or handful of berries were about the only foods I could handle. I didn't gain weight but I…

My photos change SO much depending on lighting and pose, that I just never know what to believe - I tend to assume the worst is what my body actually looks like, while the nice lighting is just flattering. These were all taken within days of each other. I look a good ten lbs heavier in the pants than shorts. The one where…

So a 95-lb girl sedentary girl with very little muscle mass putting away easily 3,000 calories plus a day of high-fat, high-carb foods a day is burning up the caloric difference by swinging her foot and tapping her fingers on the desk more? Could be. But somehow I find that difficult to believe.

Yes. So then why is it hard to believe that the same genetics could not be at play for an adult struggling to lose (or gain) weight?

kimny72, but there ARE people - I personally know one - who are extremely thin and WANT to gain weight, purposefully eating large amounts of high-calorie, high-fat foods (especially high considering their low weight in the first place), and yet struggle putting on a single pound. Again, I find it difficult to believe that…

I like to talk about babies in these topics, particularly before they're eating solids, because it eliminates all the human error and psychological factors that some love to blame all weight issues on. Babies, particularly breastfed babies, can't sneak food or lie about intake or snack excessively. In our day and age…

Another article looking at a mother's gestational weight and the infant's risk of obesity (and similar risks apply to mothers who have gestational diabetes, even without excessive weight gain). And these are only some of the genetic factors we know about, and scientists themselves admit that they don't yet know much about…

This is the study I was referring to: http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1745691617690878 The quoted makes complete sense to me as it's consistent with what I see in life too:

Okay, so the point I was trying to make is this. I'm not arguing against CICO as a basic concept - obviously the law of thermodynamics applies no matter what. Where I personally believe the missing puzzle piece may lie is that CO is a lot less static than we think. Or to be more precise, RMR. I don't believe it's simply a…

Okay. But what was happening before you hit your thirties that you were able to maintain the same weight without monitoring intake? I'm guessing there is no way you ate the exact same amount every day, and also that there were many times you would eat over your maintenance. What happens to these calories? I know people…

I'm someone who would love nothing else than to fully believe in CICO 100%. And I mostly still rely on it because the easiest thing for me to do is simply eat less. Or not eat. I have little appetite and I can easily go through days with barely eating, I often forget to eat or skip meals out of a lack of time. What I have…

Hol-eee! You look like an anime doll in the after!

I have the same problem! Like you, I always thought that if I lost enough weight (I never had that much to lose, 10-15 vanity lbs), I would suddenly magically look like a VS model. In reality, once I got down to about 18.5 bmi, I realized that I too have a short torso with very high hipbones (I'm a pear shape so they're…

wow, nice thread! It really hits home for me. It's funny how differently people hold their weight. For some people, 15-20 lbs makes a more drastic difference in the face than 100+ lbs for others! I have also known larger women who had NO fat in their face, perfect cheekbones and all (though that's more rare). I myself hold…

yep, this is me too. At 110 lbs and 5'4, I had ribs and spine poking out like a concentration camp victim, yet my thighs were still huge and jiggly :( Whereas my 61 year old MIL has not done any form of exercise in decades, and has those perfect, slim, shapely legs with no hint of cellulite and muscle definition that makes…

I struggle with getting enough protein and I've also hated every protein shake and bar I ever tried because I found the taste disgusting. I don't like any artificial flavorings in general. I've tried unflavored protein with kefir but still hated it. Finally I figured out that I just don't like shakes and smoothies and…

The key phrase there is 'at the expense of bodily functions'. A healthy body is supposed to use calories to fuel bodily functions first, and only any excess calories are stored as fat. The body of someone with a disorder may be experiencing symptoms consistent with a severe deficit, like lethargy, cold, hair loss, poor…

Another thing, is I have read research showing that infants of mothers who were obese, had uncontrolled gestational diabetes or some other conditions during pregnancy were much more likely to be born larger and experience weight issues in the future. I have also known a normal-sized healthy mom whose exclusively breastfed…

I know the "you're eating more than you think" line is the go-to everyone starts shouting out here on every thread...but seriously..unless this woman is really delusional and lying to us, how can she NOT be eating at a deficit with what she's listed here?? Regardless of tracking and weighing, how can a couple of servings…

Like others said, I wouldn't give up any food I love for weight loss. However, there are many foods that I've essentially 'given up' as in haven't eaten in years, and will try not to eat outside of exceptional circumstances - not because of weight but because they're gross, horrible for you, and just not food. That means…

Well..maybe not in a healthy person, but in one whose hormones are disordered and body is not operating as it should? Lots of illness don't really make evolutionary sense...allergies..cancer..yet they exist.. Also, if you look at the African starving children..yes they're skin and bones. But if you look at older women, who…

But if your fat metabolism is screwed up...like the PP said..I wonder if you could be at a point where even the barest minimum calories you take in to survive will be stored as fat, while the rest of the bodily processes will be shutting down as if you're indeed starving. Something to think about. Again it makes me think…

I have heard that a person's fat cells form mainly during two main periods in childhood and around puberty I believe (and then sometimes in pregnancy); therefore, a child who gains weight at that time will always have those extra fat cells that never go away, only shrink or grow. The thought is that those fat cells release…

I have heard that a person's fat cells form mainly during two main periods in childhood and around puberty I believe; therefore, a child who gains weight at that time will always have those extra fat cells that never go away, only shrink. The thought is that those fat cells release their own hormones that contribute to…

I wonder though, what percentage of 'chronically' obese people actually have issues with metabolisms. We know that many normal weight people who don't struggle with weight don't keep strict track of their daily caloric intakes. Their CI probably varies a lot day to day but the body sort of averages it out unless there's…

Yes. This I believe is the missing link in many people who struggle to lose weight in spite of cutting calories etc. My theory is that CO is more than just a simple 'burning' of energy. It's about how and where that energy ends up getting distributed that can likely differ greatly between individuals.

The meds I'm talking about generally cause both water retention AND fat gain, as I mentioned, deposited in characteristic places. What tomteboda said above about Cushing's. The implications of this is that hormones can mess with metabolism to such degree that it is impossible to create a deficit even on extremely low…

Okay, so if you take an obese person and literally make them starve, denying ALL food except water, do you think they would keep losing weight, using the burned fat to power bodily processes, until they got to a dangerously skeletal size and only then die of starvation? No. They would likely die long before, due to…

Cortisol is what I was thinking. Steroids, Cushing's Disease and others cause very characteristic fat deposits that are said to be almost impossible to prevent, like on the face, back of neck, and around the middle, while at the same time losing fat and muscle from the extremities. It sounds utterly terrifying.

I don't think that's what the poster meant. I think what people mean by saying hormones matter is that hormones are technically capable of grinding your metabolism to that much of a halt that it would be next to impossible for a person to create a deficit under these conditions. I posted about this on the debate board but…