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If not Lustig, do you trust the Mayo Clinic? https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/01/150129132918.htm Recent studies have shown that added sugars, particularly those containing fructose, are a principal driver of diabetes and pre-diabetes, even more so than other carbohydrates. Clinical experts writing in Mayo Clinic…
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No, he does plenty of studies with humans. Here's a recent one: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-10/uoc--och102115.php
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I agree, it is confusing. People want easy answers, simple explanations, all or nothing, black or white... maybe it all comes down to lazy thinking, certainty, control, superiority? I don't know. Clearly (as the "debunking" video inadvertently shows), it's not about fructose being all bad or all good. It's about the…
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Ahahaha. Let's just agree to disagree on that one. I'm with Lustig. You can look at his science. My point was the video is dumb dumb dumb.
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Seriously, the video "debunks" nothing. Only someone completely ignorant about the issue would think Lustig caught got contradicting himself. Smh.
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WOW! Whoever made that first "debunking video" is either really stupid or thinks that everyone else is. Lustig states, "There is no foodstuff on the planet that has fructose that is poisonous for you, it is all good." He clearly means whole foods from nature, explaining why our bodies and brains love the taste--it's been…
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And cognitive dissonance will forever prevail :D
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I'm just going to leave this right here. https://proteinpower.com/drmike/2016/05/06/contradictions-and-cognitive-dissonance-the-kevin-hall-effect/ And also point out the last line of Kevin Hall's abstract: Therefore, an isocaloric ketogenic diet was associated with increased energy expenditure of ~100 kcal/d. Isocaloric…
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Your sunshine and rainbows "every diet is equally valid and helpful and anyone who says otherwise is just spouting nonsense because what really matters is placebo effect, increased nutrients, and exercise" might seem really great on the surface; however, the big problem with it is it isn't "factual," and it isn't supported…
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I guess it depends on what you mean by "even more difficult." What's more difficult? Simply restricting calories, feeling weak and hungry all the time, and killing your metabolism, wasting more lean muscle OR switching to ketosis and getting the benefits of appetite suppression and increased mood and energy along with a…
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Here's a great discussion on the pathogenesis of cardiac disease. It touches on a lot of the discussion of this thread. Check it out! Dr. Andreas Eenfeldt interviews heart surgeon, Dr. Dwight Lundell on the pathophysiology of heart disease. Dr. Lundell was one the first major voices pointing us to better science. You might…
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^^^THIS That was my point. Fasting glucose and A1C is a measurement of insulin resistance much further down the road. The progression of the disease starts with elevated insulin levels, as your pancreas does its best to keep your blood glucose normal. It can keep working at it for years. As insulin rises, the cells being…
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@psulemon Just do the math, if he's consuming 75% of his macros in carbohydrate (about 300 grams, he states, which would correspond to a 1600 calorie diet)... let's assume he's eats the DRI of protein for the average sedentary male = 56 g, which would mean about 14% of this macros... then he's got another 11% for fat…
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@markusdarwath. You should watch the documentary at the beginning of the thread and listen to the info on statins since you're now taking Zocor. Considering that statins work by blocking the production of cholesterol in the liver, blocking the precursor to many important substances, such CoQ10 (so important for the heart…
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Well, from what I understand, I don't eat a "paleo" diet, but I've never studied it. I eat a ketogenic real food diet. For one thing, I'm perfectly fine with dairy. Another, I don't eat honey or agave or other high carb sweeteners that may or may not be paleo friendly (I think they are ok with honey?). Lastly, I don't…
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I'm kinda tempted to ignore your extremism and sarcasm. It's not insightful or productive. Just to help point you in the right direction, I will say that insulin resistance is multi-factorial and can exist in skeletal muscles or the liver or both--also treating IR is effective with more than just exercise and calorie…
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Really? Good for me, but not good for my health? What's the distinction? What can you tell me about ketones? If at the bare minimum ketones allow my fasting blood glucose to run in the 60s... I'm getting health benefits from that alone.
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From what I remember reporting to my sister, my LDL:HDL ratio was 1:1. My HDL was 84. Total cholesterol was normal, and triglycerides were very low... I certainly meet the AHA's guidelines, but not everyone does necessarily. I don't think my doc did an A1C given I'm 32, but maybe he should have--lots of diabetes in my…
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I have to say, I see gaping irony in the juxtaposition of "don't play games with your life" and "wait on the American Heart Association." Your reason for why "sat fat works" is pure conjecture, unless you have reasonable data to share. From my personal experience, I was able to slim down very quickly (and lose my last…
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Hmmm, EVOO has about twice the SF as it does PUFA... and the rest is MUFA. Based on this concept of replacing SF with PUFA, it would not be a heart healthy choice! For those wanting to limit SF and replace it with PUFA, you'd do much better picking canola oil--it has about half the SF and 3 x the PUFA as EVOO. So would you…
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1. I didn't throw it out because it was mainstream... I just didn't respond because there was no evidence or data to discuss. There was nothing new added to the conversation. 2. The JAMA study I linked did not control for types of fats. 3. I agree with you. Natural fats from whole plants and animals are healthy (SF, MUFA,…
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Very interesting coming from someone who is quick to break apart studies... see no problems with this one? 1. very small 2. three months of intake based on dietary recall yet obese have the same intake as the lean controls? 3. also strange that the slight beneficial association is only found in the those with prediabetes…
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@psulemon Sorry I had to go back and look... Your most recent two posts are just sharing standard mainstream nutrition advice. I don't see any evidence there to talk about.. just the same old same old based on the outdated lipid hypothesis. For example, the NIH article states, "A diet high in saturated fat increases…
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Steven, when you tell me that what I'm saying is counter to mainstream institutional advice, you're making an argument against me by appealing to the power of authority. However, it's a logical fallacy to assume a statement is true simply because it came from "authority." I encourage you and others to do your own thinking…
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Hey, if you wanna stick with mainstream advice, more power to you. They're not completely off base. If you follow them over a standard American processed food diet, you're probably going to improve your health. Despite WHO's current guidelines, I'd wager WHO will catch up well before AHA does. Either way, the science is…
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I have a much greater respect for the WHO than the AHA. Do you know how fiercely industry fought that recommendation? They threatened them with pulling funding, basically blackmail. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2003/apr/21/usnews.food WHO is not tied to industry like the AHA. I'm not a hipster, I just prefer to do my…
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LOL, Steven, I guess by "official" you mean mainstream like the American Heart Association (which btw I did link the current USDA guidelines related to cholesterol, and I'd consider them "official," but anyway... ). Do you think mainstream/industry-sponsored groups like that keep up with the latest research? I mean if the…
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Wow, even Mark Hyman, MD is coming around... I'm impressed! Open-mindedness for the win! https://youtu.be/zN-nUtDW1iY
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Animal fats cause insulin resistance?? Smh. This nutritionfacts.org video is by Dr. Micheal Greger. This mans pushes veganism and the pritikin diet (extremely low fat). He's pushing junk science, IMO. Saturated fat intake causes inflammation since it's breakdown creates mitochondrial dysfunction, oxidative stress, free…
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You see, one of the main points in the documentary is that "numbers" are a very poor predictor when it comes to cardiac disease and vary greatly by age and gender--very high cholesterol, for example, is protective in old age. They don't correlate well because extra cholesterol in the blood is not the cause of heart…