Season 3 - Episode 4 "Killer Within" (11/04/12)

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  • After giving birth myself without medication, I instantly felt bad for Lori. Her last words to Carl were so sweet and I was blubbering like a baby! I like that Carol is stepping up and doing more than laundry and cooking, she's not a damsel in distress anymore, but she needs to keep her hands off my boyfriend! : ) And T-Dog! Noooooo! He was awesome, and I wanted him to have more lines. At least he went down a hero. As far as Andrea, Michonne, and Merle go, I don't think they really have a choice to leave. I think the Govenor will kill anyone who leaves, seeing as how it could become a threat to his little town if they came back with more people to take over Woodbury.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    I wanted Rick and Andrea to hook up the minute she hesitated "stealing" the necklace in the store for her sister in Season One.
  • _the_feniks_
    _the_feniks_ Posts: 3,412 Member
    Ding dong the b!t(h is dead, the b!t(h is dead, the wicked b!t(h...

    Happy that Lori's time finally came. T-Dog was cool, but I think you saw it coming. Great job by Andrew Lincoln in that scene when he realizes Lori is dead. Great episode all together.
  • AnaNotBanana
    AnaNotBanana Posts: 963 Member
    I haven't been a fan of Lori from the beginning of the show (she's wasn't that bad in the comic books) but her last speech to Carl made me kind of respect her in a way that I didn't before. And of course that made it all that much worse when she dies.

    I think that killed me the most was the way that Rick was screaming for Lori when all the walkers started attacking. It sounded like sheer panic. And of course I completely lost it at the end. Rick's reaction is so human and real. This is going to be a great plot point for the show because who is going to be willing to step up into the leadership position when Rick loses his ****???

    I'm so beyond annoyed with Andrea!!! I get it, it's the end of the world, the last guy you had sex with turned into a zombie, its been a while but REALLY?!?!?!?! Merle??? I doubt there is anything that he could say that would make me want to take my clothes off but apparently Andrea is that desperate. I hope Michonne just leaves Andrea's stupid *kitten* in Woodsbury and gets the hell out of dodge..
  • AnaNotBanana
    AnaNotBanana Posts: 963 Member
    As painful as Rick's reaction was, my reaction was, "Dude, go to Carl. SOMEONE... hug Carl."

    He's going to be seriously f'ed up after this.

    I thought the same thing!!!
  • RHOyalT
    RHOyalT Posts: 204 Member
    I wasn't too upset by Lori, but definitely had a reaction to T-Dog. My husband and I were joking that the show can only have one Black guy at a time since it looks like they may replace T-Dog with the inmate who stepped up at the end! :laugh:
  • AnaNotBanana
    AnaNotBanana Posts: 963 Member


    I hope Carol is dead also. I find her incredibly annoying.


    I'm not 100% sure that she's actually dead. I loved that T-Dog threw himself on those zombie so that she could get back. If you're going down....go down like a true hero!!
  • k2quiere
    k2quiere Posts: 4,151 Member
    This episode was so hard to watch. I wasn't a Lori fan, but I did feel bad about the way she died. I understand that, as a mother, she wants to do everything possible to make sure the baby lives....but in this new world, life is often a death sentence. I'm actually kind of upset that a baby has entered the mix (I know this happens in the comic book too).

    Also, what do you think is going to happen next week with Michonne and Andrea? I think Michonne should just take the Governor out. She's such a bad *kitten*!!

    I think that Michonne probably knows that she doesn't have enough on the Gov. to justify killing him, let alone thinking she can get away with it. It's more likely and a smarter choice for her to leave on her own without Andrea, but that probably wouldn't make as good of a story.

    This episode reminded me of why I hated Andrea so much before she got separated from the group. She's a flipping idiot who is completely blinded by men with any type of authority/power. I wouldn't be surprised to find out she's had a hard-on for Michonne but is on to the next when her interest isn't reciprocated.

    It is really no wonder Carl is as off the chain as he is with the parents he has. I guess Rick forgot that he told his son that everyone was gonna die and to take them out as necessary to survive.

    FTR: I love the woman Maggie is becoming.
  • JohnnyBLean
    JohnnyBLean Posts: 67 Member
    Fantastic episode, my eyes got watery in the final scene.

    To all the Lori haters, and there are plenty of you, I am fairly convinced she was designed as a unlikable character, so the writers did their job. I hope she's not dead, so you get wound up even more. I am not sure how you could survive a hack-job caesarian without immediate medical attention, but anything can happen in tv.

    She would have to survive the C-Section and a bullet in the head. Unlikely. I feel pretty sure that Carl did the deed.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    And there's the interview with the actress saying how she's off the show. :wink:
  • My money is still on Lori being alive....or turned into a walker. I highly doubt Carl shot her.
  • My money is still on Lori being alive....or turned into a walker. I highly doubt Carl shot her.

    I disagree. Carl stated that he would've shot Sophia if he had found her as a walker. He had no problem shooting Shane when he had turned, and Shane was almost a father figure to him. Maggie was about to just leave her there and Carl stop and said, "we have to do something, she'll turn" Carl is pretty creepy, but he doesn't want his mom to be a walker, and he did what was right.
  • joelabro
    joelabro Posts: 138 Member
    My money is still on Lori being alive....or turned into a walker. I highly doubt Carl shot her.

    I disagree. Carl stated that he would've shot Sophia if he had found her as a walker. He had no problem shooting Shane when he had turned, and Shane was almost a father figure to him. Maggie was about to just leave her there and Carl stop and said, "we have to do something, she'll turn" Carl is pretty creepy, but he doesn't want his mom to be a walker, and he did what was right.

    These are good points. I'm now convinced 100% that she is dead, and it also helps that I read an an interview I read with the actress that plays her, which would make her a serious liar in real life if Lori is still alive!
  • Mina133842
    Mina133842 Posts: 1,573 Member
    it will be weird if they address moving Lori's body- and burning/burying it. I did like how she talked to Carl at the end- wondering if he's going to have a relationship where he hates the baby because it killed their mother...
    Did ANYONE scavenge for baby bottles the entire winter? or a binky, baby clothes, etc? just wondering. lol
  • AnaNotBanana
    AnaNotBanana Posts: 963 Member
    it will be weird if they address moving Lori's body- and burning/burying it. I did like how she talked to Carl at the end- wondering if he's going to have a relationship where he hates the baby because it killed their mother...
    Did ANYONE scavenge for baby bottles the entire winter? or a binky, baby clothes, etc? just wondering. lol

    It would make sense that they would be on the look out for baby items but they might have been scarce since the last thing that Carl found to eat was dog food. Plus if they were wandering around living out of the cars they probably would have tried to carry as little as possible.
  • it will be weird if they address moving Lori's body- and burning/burying it. I did like how she talked to Carl at the end- wondering if he's going to have a relationship where he hates the baby because it killed their mother...
    Did ANYONE scavenge for baby bottles the entire winter? or a binky, baby clothes, etc? just wondering. lol

    Whoa! I never thought of that!! Wow! Lori really doesn't want any mother of the year awards. Most of us go through a nesting phase, collecting things we need for the baby, at least she should've thought of that seeing as how they did have 8 months to find something! Great point!
  • leomentlines
    leomentlines Posts: 440 Member
    Late, but I LOVED this episode.. actually shed a few tears (mind you, I shed ZERO when Rick shot Sophia in the barn) - this was a heartbreaking ep.. Lori was a ****ty mom, but it seeing her die was :'( . As soon as the prisoners showed up in the last episode, I knew someone from the regular roster was going to be offed. Sad to see T-Dog go, but at the same time they never put any effort into developing any sort of story for him - he was just "there".

    I can't WAIT to see more of the Governor + Michonne scenes - you know some stuff is about to go down. I'm pretty sure she's my favorite character on the show, already.

    If Shane were still around, I would have LOVED to see him and the Governor go toe to toe.
  • Momwasix
    Momwasix Posts: 623 Member
    Yes that's what I'm saying Shane should still be here him and rick fighting over the baby and the Governor would of been awesome.
  • daniel7121
    daniel7121 Posts: 166 Member
    REALLY late.... I just started this show about a week ago and have since made it to S3E6. (Work the night shift at my local small-town sheriff's office, so I've got lots of free time.) This episode has got to be the saddest and most emotional one yet, imo. However, I felt like there was almost too much "drama" going on at once for things to be believable. Alarms going off because a prisoner happened to make it down to the generators, Lori suddenly goes into labor, walkers start escaping from other parts of the jail, T-Dawg sacrificing himself for Carol. Just seemed sort of busy. Will admit, though, that the last two or three scenes pulled things together fairly well.. And I really think Lori is dead lol.