New! (With questions, of course)
demureecho
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Hey everyone, I'm new to both the group and SL and have a few questions.
About me: I am in the middle of my weight loss journey (85 pounds lost, 65 to go) and I've been in a 6+ month plateau. I lost the weight initially with lots of cardio and a 1200 calorie diet, then eventually stalled and have been unable to progress no matter how little I eat. After a burnout and 2 months of binging (gaining back 10 pounds in the process), I'm recommitted and ready to finish this off.
Two weeks ago I found the Road Map guide on this site, and began eating at a 20% deficit of TTEE, at a 40/30/30 carb/fat/protein ratio. After checking my body fat percentage and being appalled (47% ugh) I realized I needed to start lifting or else lose all this weight just to end up skinny-fat. I'm going to do my first SL workout today.
So my questions are --
1. What activity level do you recommend I use for my TTEE now that I am incorporating SL? I have a desk job, but I shoot for (and usually achieve) 10,000 steps per day. I also do two 45 minute spinning classes per week, and I will be doing SL three times per week. Right now I have it set at light activity, which comes out to 1970 calories a day (after the 20% deficit). Do you think this is an appropriate modifier?
2. Is it safe to continue eating at a deficit while doing SL? My main priority is to decrease my body fat percentage and lose inches, however I'm still well into the obese category and want to lose weight as well.
3. My husband suggested I get a belt if I'm going to be doing deadlifts. Do you think this is necessary, or even beneficial?
Thank for your responses, and for this group! After reading the barrage of "I used to be a skinny dude, now I'm bulky" stories in the back of Mehdi's book, I was pretty apprehensive that this program might not be good for an overweight female. Now I'm pumped and looking forward to my first workout!
About me: I am in the middle of my weight loss journey (85 pounds lost, 65 to go) and I've been in a 6+ month plateau. I lost the weight initially with lots of cardio and a 1200 calorie diet, then eventually stalled and have been unable to progress no matter how little I eat. After a burnout and 2 months of binging (gaining back 10 pounds in the process), I'm recommitted and ready to finish this off.
Two weeks ago I found the Road Map guide on this site, and began eating at a 20% deficit of TTEE, at a 40/30/30 carb/fat/protein ratio. After checking my body fat percentage and being appalled (47% ugh) I realized I needed to start lifting or else lose all this weight just to end up skinny-fat. I'm going to do my first SL workout today.
So my questions are --
1. What activity level do you recommend I use for my TTEE now that I am incorporating SL? I have a desk job, but I shoot for (and usually achieve) 10,000 steps per day. I also do two 45 minute spinning classes per week, and I will be doing SL three times per week. Right now I have it set at light activity, which comes out to 1970 calories a day (after the 20% deficit). Do you think this is an appropriate modifier?
2. Is it safe to continue eating at a deficit while doing SL? My main priority is to decrease my body fat percentage and lose inches, however I'm still well into the obese category and want to lose weight as well.
3. My husband suggested I get a belt if I'm going to be doing deadlifts. Do you think this is necessary, or even beneficial?
Thank for your responses, and for this group! After reading the barrage of "I used to be a skinny dude, now I'm bulky" stories in the back of Mehdi's book, I was pretty apprehensive that this program might not be good for an overweight female. Now I'm pumped and looking forward to my first workout!
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1. I kept mine at lightly active, and record "strength training" under cardio. The calorie count probably isn't correct, but it reminds me to eat a little more on lifting days.
2. I am still working on losing, and eating at a slight deficit. I've been stuck for a bit, but it's because I have not been consistent. Don't step on the scale for awhile. We have all experienced weeks where there are no pounds lost, and it is hard to tell if anything is happening, but it is and you'll see it eventually.
3. I don't use a belt yet and I'm deadlifting ~130 lbs.I don't feel the need for it yet. Eventually/ maybe.0 -
1) do you mean using MFP's settings or do you mean doing TDEE calculations on another site? If you are doing the MFP way, adding your exercise cals in later, I'd set yourself to lightly active and eat your exercise cals. If you do them the TDEE - 20% on another site way, I'd calculate yourself as being in-between moderately and active.
I personally use moderately - also a desk job, probably something like 8000 steps per day (haven't worn my BMF in ages but I tended to do 6k on a low day and 11k on a high day so 8-9 would be average, and 6k was kind of a fluke).... ok maybe more like 9-10 since we moved and its a lot further to walk to lunch?
I don't do the spin classes though. So for you I'd do the calc for moderate, calc for average, and give yourself a point in between the two. At the very least, for you, I'd go to moderate. You're pretty active, it sounds like. And spin classes are hard work right? Never done one but I've heard they are big burns.
2) Its 'safe' to eat at a moderate deficit - you won't make quite as big of strength gains or muscle growth but that's ok. Its not a great idea to eat a HUGE deficit and do this but it won't really be dangerous, exactly, you'll just be weak and tired and miserable and sore all the time.
3) No, you don't need a belt. Eventually maybe for squats. But geared lifting is DIFFERENT - it does allow you to lift more but it also forces you to move differently, and it gives you support for weaker areas which is really important for competition lifters going for max weights, but not as important for someone that is trying to gain strength in general. You might one day want a belt, but in the meantime you do not need one and they help create artifical amounts of core strength, which is great for lifting more weight, but not great for building the core strength on your own.
Some quick google fu brings me this - which kind of sums up everything I've read -
http://articles.elitefts.com/training-articles/benefits-and-proper-use-of-weightlifting-belts/
And re: your macros. Those macros are PROBABLY ok. But there are downsides to taking the percentage approach. If you want to do a LOT of reading: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/diet-percentages-part-1.html (and then part 2)
the TL;DR version is:
-- Get adequate protein (1.5g per kg of bodyweight - if you're used to lbs that is your weight in lbs divided by 2.2 and then multiply by 1.5)
-- Unless you're a body builder or an endurance athlete you can pretty much let the rest of it fall where it may as long as you eat a reasonably normal healthy diet - aka you eat food and aren't trying to live on protein shakes or weird processed stuff. Seriously, try it for a few weeks and see. Unless you are naturally very fat avoidant (you tend to eat a lot of sugars and a lot of stuff that says 'low fat' on the packaging) you'll probably find that your macros fall out somewhere in the 40/30/30 range naturally.
Just focus on whole foods, try to include fish, nuts, whole eggs, avocado in your diet for healthy fats (whichever of those things you like and that also fit into your calories well), and make sure you get adequate protein. The macros will probably work out AND you won't be stressed about them. This works best for me, honestly, other than that I kind of don't eat as much fish as I should because my husband hates it.
Also - expect some weight gain. Expect a fair bit of weight gain (and then be presently surprised if you don't). I am talking 5 lbs gain, MINIMUM. Probably not the first week unless the empty bar is really heavy for you but within a few weeks, you're going to put on glycogen and water weight like you wouldn't believe. Or just stay off the scale and take pictures.
I'm always excited for new people. When you are new to lifting you are going to see some amazing gains and physical changes.0 -
Thank you both so much for your responses! I haven't been able to get on the forums this week, but I did my first two workouts with my third today. Let's just say I couldn't walk properly on Tuesday. :laugh:
I am having a bit of trouble with squats and overhead lifts. Not the exercises, but the weight. The 45 pound bar is wayyy too heavy for me on these two. For squats I lose my balance once I'm at the bottom of the squat and my form breaks, and for overhead I just can't push it up at all.
My gym has smaller weighted bars in 5(ish) pound increments from 9lbs - 24lbs, so I did my exercises with those to start, but these smaller bars have bulbed ends so I can't add extra weight on them. Because of that, I'm not sure how to proceed from 24lbs until I can handle the 45lb bar. Any thoughts?
Also, thanks for the input on the calories. I calculated my TDEE using Dan's Road Map on this site, and have bumped my activity level up to moderate and will eat there for a month and reassess. I use MFP to track but don't add exercise calories in.
The macros for me are more of a guideline as well, I struggle to get enough protein but I generally eat pretty well. I eat lots of nuts and avocado (no fish, I can't stand it, but I take a salmon oil supplement) so I know I'm getting good fats in. I do supplement my diet with whey powder simply because I struggle to eat enough protein. I'm 210 pounds currently, so I should eat at least 144 grams daily, and it's proving very difficult.
And yeah, I know all about gaining at first. :laugh: I've gained 4 pounds in the last 3 weeks just by switching from a 1200 calorie, tired & miserable diet to eating ~2000 calories. It's disheartening, but I feel a lot better and that's more important. I'm hoping the addition of strength training will help me finally break this plateau and start the scale & measuring tape moving in the right direction.0 -
Losing your balance on squats can be a flexibility issue (or well, a flexibility issue causing a form issue). Its probably not a weight issue.
How's your lower back? can you hold a good arch in your lower back (not a super huge one but your pelvis should be tilted downward).
Where's your weight distributed? Should be on your heels. If its not or if you find it difficult to squat that way, it could be hip, hamstring, calf, or ankle flexibility.
How close together are your heels and how turned out are your feet? Some women (and men but mostly women) need to set their feet apart a few inches wider than other people (mostly men again) because your hips are wider.
Stick with the empty bar again and try changing your stance around a bit. ALso make sure you've got the bar set up correctly - if you feel like you are HOLDING it with your hands/arm strength, its not set right. Ditto if you feel like its pushing on your spine. And an incorrectly set bar could also cause balance issues.0 -
It could definitely be a flexibility issue. My lower back is good and I hold a solid arch, but I do have problems keeping my weight on my heels. I injured my left foot & ankle over the summer and was in an air cast for 8 weeks. When I came out of it my ankle was extremely weak and it's taken months to get back to walking normally and without pain. My heels do not go up when I squat, but I have to continuously remind myself to take weight off my toes.
I keep my feet shoulder-width apart, with toes pointed slightly outwards. I will try spreading them a little wider today and see if that helps, and pay extra attention to bar placement. Thanks for the suggestions!0