Advice for improving century time..

rides4sanity
rides4sanity Posts: 1,269 Member
edited January 7 in Social Groups
Since I've ditched my tri goal, I needed something new. Last year my ride time for Day 1 of the TOSRV was 5:40 for the 105 miles which put me at 18.5mph. I would like to do it in under 5:00 this year. I think I could have done that near the end of last summer, but the ride is early May. Any training suggestions that can be done indoor to help me have a good beginning of season ride? Ride more, lift more, what is a good off season mix? Weather here isn't what I'd call ridable until April, maybe late March, chances are I'm not going to HTFU enough for anything before that.

The course is relatively flat and I like to go with a small draft group 3-5 people. There are larger draft groups, but because its a fairly easy ride a lot of people within these groups don't really know how to ride in groups and it gets dangerous (I got my front wheel clipped on a climb last year when our group met up with another and somebody didn't hold their line. I managed to get to the ditch rather than go down in the middle of the pack, but not something I want to repeat.)

This is a 2 Day double century, so i gotta ride back the next day, but i usually ride back with our local club, so it's more social and slower.

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  • Cyclink
    Cyclink Posts: 517 Member
    The biggest question to answer is what your biggest limiter is. Is it the speed to ride at 21 mph at all, is it the aerobic endurance to ride at speed for 5 hours, or is it the postural endurance to sit in that position for 5 hours? For most people, it's a combination of all three.

    There are two major ingredients for training at a specific speed (or power): pull and push. Pull means riding above that speed for short periods of time (usually intervals). Push means riding below that speed for long periods of time (usually as sustained intensity). With the kind of durations you are looking at, I'd probably look at something like 80% push, 20% pull.

    The first rule of riding at 21 mph is to ride at 21 mph. If that's your goal for 5 hours, then it's a good number to use as a reference point.

    What does that mean? It means that 80% of your training days are focused on riding as close to 21 mph as you can sustain for the time you have. If you have 2-hour ride, that might be 60 to 90 minutes at 19.5 mph. If you only have an hour ride, that might be 45 minutes right at 21 mph.

    The remaining 20% of your rides have intervals that are above 21 mph. It might be intervals of 8 minutes at 22.5 mph, 15 minutes at 22 mph, or 30 minutes at 21.5 mph. It all depends on how long the interval is and how many you can fit into your day.

    For centuries, intervals of less than 2 minutes won't get you much. It's not to say they won't help at all; you can just get much more benefit from other workouts.

    Weight lifting won't directly improve your riding. It might remove some muscle imbalances and improve your fitness in general, but it won't make you a faster rider, especially over longer distances. Cycling at 18 to 20 mph at 85 rpm requires pushing a load of 55 pounds per leg per stroke. Unless you are severely lacking in leg strength, that is most likely not going to be your limiting factor.
  • uboom
    uboom Posts: 69 Member
    core work and plyometrics!!!!!!
  • Cyclink
    Cyclink Posts: 517 Member
    core work and plyometrics!!!!!!

    For a track sprinter or a crit rider, I'd agree. Not for someone looking to do centuries.
  • Ezwoldo
    Ezwoldo Posts: 369 Member
    First thing you need to consider is what type of terrain is the century going to be?

    If it's a hilly terrain then you will need to do fast hill repeats as intervals during your training rides, if its a flat course then as long as you have a good base fitness then a turbo session once a week of 10 mins hard 5 easy and repeat 3 times would do you no harm it is a killer session but does work.


    When is it?

    You need to give yourself plenty of time to prepare and make sure you rest well in that time as you don't want to turn up come race day and be in fatigue so work out how best you train and rest, I have a week off every 8th week and only commute to work and nothing else this I found helps me stay fresh during the summer, It is a case of trial and error as not everyone is the same.

    what amount of time to I have to prepare?

    We could say that you have to do miles and lots of them and you may not have time so set an amout of time you CAN dedicate each week and work to that time scale. It is ideal to go out and get good base miles in once a week though and 6 weeks before the even try and ride a really long ride so the body get's used to the stress of a long ride and you will know how to cope with it.

    but the most important thing in training for it is HAVE FUN
  • narak_lol
    narak_lol Posts: 855 Member
    The first rule of riding at 21 mph is to ride at 21 mph. If that's your goal for 5 hours, then it's a good number to use as a reference point.

    What does that mean? It means that 80% of your training days are focused on riding as close to 21 mph as you can sustain for the time you have. If you have 2-hour ride, that might be 60 to 90 minutes at 19.5 mph. If you only have an hour ride, that might be 45 minutes right at 21 mph.

    The remaining 20% of your rides have intervals that are above 21 mph. It might be intervals of 8 minutes at 22.5 mph, 15 minutes at 22 mph, or 30 minutes at 21.5 mph. It all depends on how long the interval is and how many you can fit into your day.

    For centuries, intervals of less than 2 minutes won't get you much. It's not to say they won't help at all; you can just get much more benefit from other workouts.

    This is a good read. Appreciate it. I did something similar while preparing for a couple 200km rides (~125miles) last year. On long rides I focus on keeping a pace which I can sustain for 4/5 hours (a speed slightly lower than my "average"). Apart from endurance training I was getting myself able to be on the saddle for hours. These are twice a week several weeks before the event (lazy me..)

    The other rides are often with a group most are faster than me, I got the intervals training there :grumble: . Also some hill repeats (just baby climbs nothing like yours!)
  • rides4sanity
    rides4sanity Posts: 1,269 Member
    In general I tend to struggle more on the flats, especially if its windy, which it almost always is at the TOSRV. If I'm in a good pace line I can pull my weight, but if I lose the pack I'm SOL (mostly mental). This ride is about 75 flat: 30 hills but the flats are prone to gusty winds so the hills are like a breather.

    Thanks everybody! I needed a little affirmation that what I planned is on the right track. Love y'all!
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