Men’s Ten Biggest Complaints About Women

RunIntheMud
RunIntheMud Posts: 2,645 Member
No matter how many women write in to say, ‘I don’t do this!’ the fact is many, many, many women practice the behavior that follows. Men have complained about these problems in various male-oriented forums before, but here, now, I drag their 10 biggest complaints into the daylight so that everyone can finally see how women make complainers out of men.

1. You like to play coy.

If you like us, let us know. If you don’t, let us go. This game where you pretend you don’t care and secretly hope we chase you down is for teenagers. You think men like the chase? Perhaps. You think we like guessing whether we’re wasting our time? No.

2. You fixate on what we’re thinking, when you should be watching what we’re doing.

You ask, “What are you thinking?” and we say, “Nothing.” You figure this must be a lie, and decide that we aren’t willing to communicate with you. The problem is, this is the wrong question to ask. We’re action-oriented. You don’t need to ask what we’re thinking, just watch what we’re doing. Coming home late every night? We’re not happy at home. Uninterested in sex, probably crushed by stress. Not calling you back even though we said, “I love you?” We don’t love you. You can save the questions about musings until you see a change in our behavior. That’s the surest sign that something needs to be discussed.

3. You don’t understand and/or like our need for alone time.

This often expresses itself with regard to hobbies. Say a man likes to play golf and has played for years. Many a man has gotten into a relationship only to have the woman complain about the time he spends playing golf. She’s jealous of this time. Of course, if she loves him she should know that he NEEDS this time on the golf course. It’s his passion. It’s his release. Without it he will burn up with anxiety and frustration over life’s little indignities. Why does she get involved with a man who has a hobby she doesn’t like?

4. You have a complicated set of double standards.

I could write a novel on this one. We only need look at the example of going dutch on a first date. You offer to split the check, and if we let you, you hold it against us. Really? You demand, quite rightly, to be in on all important relationship decisions, yet when we take you out and ask, “What would you like to do tonight?” you are angry that we haven’t taken charge of the situation. It’s a confusing set of double standards and antiquated rules that make it very difficult for us to know which move is the right one.

5. You want us to change, and then lose respect for us when we do.

It’s an interesting phenomenon. When a man and a woman get together it is likely that he will have some hobbies, tendencies, or habits that she doesn’t like. For instance, I have a friend that met and married a woman who wasn’t thrilled that he played in a band. She was a bit threatened by the attention he received and his time spent pursuing this. She told him, “I really wish you didn’t play in this band,” and because he loved her, he quit. Within a few months this woman was confiding to her friends, “I’m a little less attracted to him because he quit the band, and just did what I asked. Now, he just hangs out at home.” It’s a specific example, but a common problem. Clearly, the man should do what he feels he has to do, but we try to be accommodating, and to have that count against us is infuriating.

6. You see us as projects you can 'fix.'

You meet us. You like us. You date us. You marry us. And somewhere along the way it might seem that you love us just as we are, but rarely does it work out that way. Women see potential. They see rough edges, and they want to sand them off. This makes us crazy. We don’t want to change. We have chosen our car, hair, friends, home and hobbies because we enjoy them. The knowledge that you are thinking, “If he could only...” is a deeply disturbing thought, and perhaps more sinister is the idea that this behavior is so common that even if you aren’t the kind of woman who wants change, we expect that you do and are only biding your time.

7. Your expectations are set by Hollywood and sky high.

Hollywood strikes again. I have a buddy that has plans to attend a Nicholas Sparks book signing so he can tell the man to KNOCK IT OFF! Most women know at an intellectual level that their man isn’t going to be like George Clooney, or Brad Pitt or that Italian guy from 'Under the Tuscan Sun', but in their heart they want it. They’ve been fed a fantasy about romance and passion for so long that when a REAL act of love comes down the pike, he notices that the tread on your tires is low and buys a new set, it hardly even registers.

8. You're always looking down the road.

Women tend to think about the next major step in life. Men tend to think about the next major meal. Certainly part of this is driven by biology. A 34-year-old single woman who wants to have children has to think about the future. She has to think about finding a quality partner, where they are going to live, is there enough room for the baby in the study? A 34-year-old single man has far less interest in planning or pushing towards some future major life goal. This difference in priorities often leaves women in the unpleasant position of saying, “next,” “next,” “next” when it comes to relationship events. There is a female drive to get answers to questions like, “What ARE we?”, “Are we exclusive yet?”, “Are we going to get married?” that makes it seem like they aren’t enjoying the now and only worry about the future.

9. You use your emotions as a weapon.

You don’t mean to. I suppose it isn’t your fault that during an important conversation about the future of our relationship you start crying, but surely you understand that this derails the ability to pursue the issue at hand. You’ve, essentially, played a kind of trump card. If we continue to advocate our side, we’re bullies. If we give in, we’re weak.

10. You have a tendency to be critical.

I’ve tried to avoid the word n-a-g, but there seems to be some internal mechanism that makes women predisposed to criticism, in the same way that men are predisposed to seek their man cave. It’s almost a cliché -- the wife that complains and makes demands, and the husband that just wants to be left alone to watch TV or work out in the garage.
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  • diodelcibo
    diodelcibo Posts: 2,564 Member
    Dang did somebody read this from my mind... :laugh:
  • RunIntheMud
    RunIntheMud Posts: 2,645 Member
    LOL, maybe so? :laugh:

    I've definitely heard similar comments from my brothers and male friends.

    I pasted the entire article, but here's the link in case anyone was interested in looking at the other articles: http://www.eharmony.com/dating-advice/dating/mens-ten-biggest-complaints-about-women/
  • SVCat
    SVCat Posts: 1,483 Member
    #2....I absolutely hate it. Especially when she tries to read my mind and interpret what I said for what I meant to say.

    NOOOO...I said what I meant.

    That's all.
  • kristen6022
    kristen6022 Posts: 1,923 Member
    I learned many years ago that men say what they mean ALL THE TIME. Women just have to listen. I know what my guy is thinking before he even speaks. I know when something is bothering him. I know when he just wants left alone. I don't need to ask. It's much simpler when you don't over think MEN in general.
  • lacroyx
    lacroyx Posts: 5,754 Member
    2. You fixate on what we’re thinking, when you should be watching what we’re doing.

    You ask, “What are you thinking?” and we say, “Nothing.” You figure this must be a lie, and decide that we aren’t willing to communicate with you. The problem is, this is the wrong question to ask. We’re action-oriented. You don’t need to ask what we’re thinking, just watch what we’re doing. Coming home late every night? We’re not happy at home. Uninterested in sex, probably crushed by stress. Not calling you back even though we said, “I love you?” We don’t love you. You can save the questions about musings until you see a change in our behavior. That’s the surest sign that something needs to be discussed.

    One of my friend's buddies would always have his girlfriend ask him what he was thinking. He'd always say the most obscure things.
    Her: "What are you thinking?"
    Him: "I'm debating who would win a fight between a lion and a shark"
    Her: :huh:
    Eventually she got fed up with his "immature" replies and stopped asking him what he was thinking. :laugh:
  • MissingMinnesota
    MissingMinnesota Posts: 7,486 Member
    2. You fixate on what we’re thinking, when you should be watching what we’re doing.

    You ask, “What are you thinking?” and we say, “Nothing.” You figure this must be a lie, and decide that we aren’t willing to communicate with you. The problem is, this is the wrong question to ask. We’re action-oriented. You don’t need to ask what we’re thinking, just watch what we’re doing. Coming home late every night? We’re not happy at home. Uninterested in sex, probably crushed by stress. Not calling you back even though we said, “I love you?” We don’t love you. You can save the questions about musings until you see a change in our behavior. That’s the surest sign that something needs to be discussed.

    One of my friend's buddies would always have his girlfriend ask him what he was thinking. He'd always say the most obscure things.
    Her: "What are you thinking?"
    Him: "I'm debating who would win a fight between a lion and a shark"
    Her: :huh:
    Eventually she got fed up with his "immature" replies and stopped asking him what he was thinking. :laugh:

    The problem is if a guy said that me I would respond with "Well is the fight on land or in water?"
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    That whole part about not worrying about what they are thinking, just what they are doing.

    I have to say - Man... sometimes I look at what you're doing and can't understand at all what is happening so Im dying to know what the thinking process is behind it.

    But then they get all frustrated cause they are like - cant you tell? this is so obvious!

    And Im like... is it? Cause Im confused.
  • flimflamfloz
    flimflamfloz Posts: 1,980 Member
    One of my friend's buddies would always have his girlfriend ask him what he was thinking. He'd always say the most obscure things.
    Her: "What are you thinking?"
    Him: "I'm debating who would win a fight between a lion and a shark"
    Her: :huh:
    Eventually she got fed up with his "immature" replies and stopped asking him what he was thinking. :laugh:
    * write notes *
    Thanks for the tip.
    The problem is if a guy said that me I would respond with "Well is the fight on land or in water?"
    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
    That whole part about not worrying about what they are thinking, just what they are doing.

    I have to say - Man... sometimes I look at what you're doing and can't understand at all what is happening so Im dying to know what the thinking process is behind it.

    But then they get all frustrated cause they are like - cant you tell? this is so obvious!

    And Im like... is it? Cause Im confused.
    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
    Yep. I think men act strangely sometimes.
  • zachatta
    zachatta Posts: 1,340 Member
    Yep, many feels from the OP.

    By the way: Number 5 is beyond retarded, and I have seen it quite a bit.

    Can a woman please explain to me why this is so?
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    That whole part about not worrying about what they are thinking, just what they are doing.

    I have to say - Man... sometimes I look at what you're doing and can't understand at all what is happening so Im dying to know what the thinking process is behind it.

    But then they get all frustrated cause they are like - cant you tell? this is so obvious!

    And Im like... is it? Cause Im confused.
    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
    Yep. I think men act strangely sometimes.

    It doesnt have to be weird or strange behavior either, sometimes they are doing things that send a specific message, and we're like - wait what
  • fullofwhimsy
    fullofwhimsy Posts: 218 Member
    Wait.. so you're saying I'm not going to be swept off my feet by a dominant yet understanding romantic Italian younger George Clooney-esque type who is happy to map out our lives together, loves to say what is on his mind, doesn't need alone time and thinks me playing coy, nagging and crying is simply precious?
  • yo_andi
    yo_andi Posts: 2,178 Member
    You know what I'm running into a lot? When I honestly don't get, or am intrigued by, something my man is doing, and consequently ask about it... I get brushed off because the past women in his life had ulterior motives behind all their lines of questioning. SOMETIMES I JUST WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE I DON'T CURRENTLY KNOW, DANG IT.
  • Roadie2000
    Roadie2000 Posts: 1,801 Member
    That whole part about not worrying about what they are thinking, just what they are doing.

    I have to say - Man... sometimes I look at what you're doing and can't understand at all what is happening so Im dying to know what the thinking process is behind it.

    But then they get all frustrated cause they are like - cant you tell? this is so obvious!

    And Im like... is it? Cause Im confused.
    That's your first mistake, you assumed there was a thinking process.
  • Roadie2000
    Roadie2000 Posts: 1,801 Member
    You know what I'm running into a lot? When I honestly don't get, or am intrigued by, something my man is doing, and consequently ask about it... I get brushed off because the past women in his life had ulterior motives behind all their lines of questioning. SOMETIMES I JUST WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE I DON'T CURRENTLY KNOW, DANG IT.
    In my experience when a woman asks me why I'm doing something a certain way means that she does it a different way which she believes to be the right way. Or sometimes it's just too difficult to explain, because even we don't understand our own reasoning sometimes.
  • SVCat
    SVCat Posts: 1,483 Member
    2. You fixate on what we’re thinking, when you should be watching what we’re doing.

    You ask, “What are you thinking?” and we say, “Nothing.” You figure this must be a lie, and decide that we aren’t willing to communicate with you. The problem is, this is the wrong question to ask. We’re action-oriented. You don’t need to ask what we’re thinking, just watch what we’re doing. Coming home late every night? We’re not happy at home. Uninterested in sex, probably crushed by stress. Not calling you back even though we said, “I love you?” We don’t love you. You can save the questions about musings until you see a change in our behavior. That’s the surest sign that something needs to be discussed.

    One of my friend's buddies would always have his girlfriend ask him what he was thinking. He'd always say the most obscure things.
    Her: "What are you thinking?"
    Him: "I'm debating who would win a fight between a lion and a shark"
    Her: :huh:
    Eventually she got fed up with his "immature" replies and stopped asking him what he was thinking. :laugh:

    The problem is if a guy said that me I would respond with "Well is the fight on land or in water?"

    I would completely be willing to discuss my feelings after a logical question such as this.
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    2. You fixate on what we’re thinking, when you should be watching what we’re doing.

    You ask, “What are you thinking?” and we say, “Nothing.” You figure this must be a lie, and decide that we aren’t willing to communicate with you. The problem is, this is the wrong question to ask. We’re action-oriented. You don’t need to ask what we’re thinking, just watch what we’re doing. Coming home late every night? We’re not happy at home. Uninterested in sex, probably crushed by stress. Not calling you back even though we said, “I love you?” We don’t love you. You can save the questions about musings until you see a change in our behavior. That’s the surest sign that something needs to be discussed.

    One of my friend's buddies would always have his girlfriend ask him what he was thinking. He'd always say the most obscure things.
    Her: "What are you thinking?"
    Him: "I'm debating who would win a fight between a lion and a shark"
    Her: :huh:
    Eventually she got fed up with his "immature" replies and stopped asking him what he was thinking. :laugh:

    I would do the opposite and constantly ask him what he's thinking. Those answers are gold.
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    2. You fixate on what we’re thinking, when you should be watching what we’re doing.

    You ask, “What are you thinking?” and we say, “Nothing.” You figure this must be a lie, and decide that we aren’t willing to communicate with you. The problem is, this is the wrong question to ask. We’re action-oriented. You don’t need to ask what we’re thinking, just watch what we’re doing. Coming home late every night? We’re not happy at home. Uninterested in sex, probably crushed by stress. Not calling you back even though we said, “I love you?” We don’t love you. You can save the questions about musings until you see a change in our behavior. That’s the surest sign that something needs to be discussed.

    One of my friend's buddies would always have his girlfriend ask him what he was thinking. He'd always say the most obscure things.
    Her: "What are you thinking?"
    Him: "I'm debating who would win a fight between a lion and a shark"
    Her: :huh:
    Eventually she got fed up with his "immature" replies and stopped asking him what he was thinking. :laugh:

    The problem is if a guy said that me I would respond with "Well is the fight on land or in water?"

    I would completely be willing to discuss my feelings after a logical question such as this.

    It also depends on the type of shark. Clearly a great white shark would win, but a leopard shark would be a tasty snack for the lion. Land or sea.
  • kls13la
    kls13la Posts: 380 Member
    I think most of these also apply to men!
  • zachatta
    zachatta Posts: 1,340 Member
    I think most of these also apply to men!

    Nope. Sorry.

    Since other question was ignored, why is it men can explain men, but women cop out with either one of the following responses:

    - You are a sexist
    - Not all women are like that
    - Pick ad hominem attack; proceed to attack to pull off topic
  • kls13la
    kls13la Posts: 380 Member
    I think most of these also apply to men!

    Nope. Sorry.

    Since other question was ignored, why is it men can explain men, but women cop out with either one of the following responses:

    - You are a sexist
    - Not all women are like that
    - Pick ad hominem attack; proceed to attack to pull off topic

    Yep, sorry. I've dated men with all of these qualities in the past. Numbers 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 10 are particularly relevant to men. However, I've definitely had men I've dated ask me what I'm thinking (I don't do this because I really don't care what they are thinking). Regarding number 1, men do this, too, but they don't call it "coy."

    As to your question about number 5, I don't expect anyone to change, so I can't answer about why some women and men might act like this.
  • RunIntheMud
    RunIntheMud Posts: 2,645 Member
    Yep, many feels from the OP.

    By the way: Number 5 is beyond retarded, and I have seen it quite a bit.

    Can a woman please explain to me why this is so?

    Number 5 is horrible. There are a lot of people, men and women that believe they can change another person. I will not enter a relationship unless I'm willing to accept the man "as is" at that moment in time. If you walk in with an expectation that someone is going to change, you're just setting yourself up for heartache.
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    I think most of these also apply to men!

    Nope. Sorry.

    Since other question was ignored, why is it men can explain men, but women cop out with either one of the following responses:

    - You are a sexist
    - Not all women are like that
    - Pick ad hominem attack; proceed to attack to pull off topic

    I have high lighted the most correct of your options.

    The problem lies in the question - you assume that all men can explain all men because all men are the same. They are not. All humans are individuals.

    I can tell you why person A might do X behavior. But that doesn't mean I am like person A. It just shows an understanding of that behavior. Psychologyyyyyyy
  • DonnaNCgirl
    DonnaNCgirl Posts: 372 Member
    I think most of these also apply to men!

    I don't think any of these apply to most men.

    As for why...Most women are so wishy-washy in what they want in a man. They say they want one thing, then they want another. Seems that they're not happy unless they're complaining. I've lived it. I've seen it with practically every one of my female friends and acquaintances. It's not a coincidence. Women sabotage most relationships, some even before they start.
  • BeingAwesome247
    BeingAwesome247 Posts: 1,171 Member
    The worst is when some women expect or try to change their boyfriend.
    Never made sense to me

    I once started dating a guy who was really into music and basically really into the idea of being famous heh
    Him & some friends started a band and I was supportive.....until he started breaking plans we had made and blowing off his grown up responsibilities. I finally asked where he was going with it...He had no back up plan, no desire for a real job, he was going to be a rockstar and get signed to a label within a year blah blah blah....
    I didn't ask him to quit the band or change....I broke up with him
    Told him it was great he wanted to follow his dreams but his path was not one I wanted to be on

    I still have him on my facebook and he'll be turning 30 this year - going bald, looks strung out most the time, works as a cook at applebee's and lives in his mom's basement still dreaming of being a rockstar :huh:
  • zachatta
    zachatta Posts: 1,340 Member
    Yep, sorry. I've dated men with all of these qualities in the past. Numbers 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 10 are particularly relevant to men. However, I've definitely had men I've dated ask me what I'm thinking (I don't do this because I really don't care what they are thinking). Regarding number 1, men do this, too, but they don't call it "coy."

    As to your question about number 5, I don't expect anyone to change, so I can't answer about why some women and men might act like this.

    Ok, let us go through point by point:

    1. You like to play coy.

    So you are saying, MEN play coy? Like we wait around and want you to chase us? When exactly do you see this behavior in men?

    3. You don’t understand and/or like our need for alone time.

    This one I will grant you, there are needy men out there.

    4. You have a complicated set of double standards.

    No we don't. The only "double standard" that men can come up with (which I agree is stupid) is one that women do all the time. (So basically both sexes do it).
    This is the whole "I can flirt with whoever I want, but YOU can't flirt or talk to anyone because you are mine". Possessiveness, jealousy etc. However that isn't inherent to men.


    5. You want us to change, and then lose respect for us when we do.

    No No No No No No No. NO. Men do not do this garbage PLEASE give me an example where a man in your life wanted you to change a behavior of yours, and when you did he lost respect for you? No.

    6. You see us as projects you can 'fix.'

    Nope, we see you as sex partners / companionship. That is about it. You either fall into that category or not. If you made it on the first cut, you made it. We don't craft or mold PLEASE give me an example.

    7. Your expectations are set by Hollywood and sky high.

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

    Nope. Many men will bang about anything. (of course they won't admit it) Have a relationship with? Sure that is different story. The men who talk about "tiers" here on the forums are trolling you.


    8. You're always looking down the road.

    Please cite an example, men do not look down the road for marriage and babies, fukkin lol.

    10. You have a tendency to be critical.

    This, i can concede as a possibility.
  • MissingMinnesota
    MissingMinnesota Posts: 7,486 Member

    7. Your expectations are set by Hollywood and sky high.

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

    Nope. Many men will bang about anything. (of course they won't admit it) Have a relationship with? Sure that is different story. The men who talk about "tiers" here on the forums are trolling you.



    Change it from Hollywood to the porn industry.
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    Zach......... I mean, come on man. This is ridiculous.

    Look, I'm not going to hash up all the bull**** I've experienced from exes and whatnot in the past just to make a point to you. Can't you just accept that not all men are the same? Geez.
  • zachatta
    zachatta Posts: 1,340 Member
    Zach......... I mean, come on man. This is ridiculous.

    Look, I'm not going to hash up all the bull**** I've experienced from exes and whatnot in the past just to make a point to you. Can't you just accept that not all men are the same? Geez.

    Nice rebuttal.
  • TheKitsune6
    TheKitsune6 Posts: 5,798 Member
    Zach......... I mean, come on man. This is ridiculous.

    Look, I'm not going to hash up all the bull**** I've experienced from exes and whatnot in the past just to make a point to you. Can't you just accept that not all men are the same? Geez.

    Nice rebuttal.

    I'm not rebutting, I'm very much not interested in arguing with you. You get all mad and *kitten* and it's too much work for no payoff. I'm just letting you know that you're being ridiculous and not in the fun way.
  • zachatta
    zachatta Posts: 1,340 Member
    Zach......... I mean, come on man. This is ridiculous.

    Look, I'm not going to hash up all the bull**** I've experienced from exes and whatnot in the past just to make a point to you. Can't you just accept that not all men are the same? Geez.

    Nice rebuttal.

    I'm not rebutting, I'm very much not interested in arguing with you. You get all mad and *kitten* and it's too much work for no payoff. I'm just letting you know that you're being ridiculous and not in the fun way.

    Lol, ok. I went through point by point, you cannot create examples. Now you are doing the "ad hominem" attack of me being "ridiculous" thereby doing the same thing I said women do, when confronted on why they behave the way they do.

    Case closed.

    Anyone else?
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