Kid/drunk section on planes?
Wickedbookworm1977
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Airliners should offer sections for children (under a certain age, or children who are intolerable to the other passengers) and also a section for obnoxious drunk passengers. By all means, keep them on separate ends of the plane, but get them out of the way for the rest of us. We don't want to hear your crying, screaming kid (acceptance for altitude changes) or deal with the drunk who won't shut up or is overly friendly. Keep them in separate areas, away from the main area of the plane.
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Why not go the whole way and travel by private jet and then you can be pampered in the way you clearly desire.0
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The kid section is not a new idea. I don't see a problem with it, I guess,if you want to pay extra for it.
http://www.nbcnews.com/travel/airline-offer-baby-free-quiet-zone-1B6091591
As for the drunk section, how about just not let people get wasted on flights? One or two drink max? No need to reward drunks by putting them in a section with their own kind. Just strap them down like this guy.
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and a section for racist *kitten*0
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Pay the extra money and fly first class.
A kid section is not going to solve the issue - you'll still hear them! 90% of the time the babies/toddlers are crying b/c of the altitude and the parents do all they can to console their child.
As for drunks.... not much can be done about that either. Its not like they were drunk when they got their seat assignements. How would you enforce such a ridiculous idea?
Next time drive or boat to your destination - Problem solved!!!0 -
I'm sorry if I am bothering you by bringing my infant on the plane so her great grandparents can meet her before they die....
Seriously, it's people with this sentiment that just make an already stressful situation even more so... thus, stressing the kid out farther during an already foriegn experience... so really, it's people that think that kids shouldn't be allowed to fly or have their own section that are making the situation even worse than it already is... Thanks a lot!0 -
and a section for racist *kitten*
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Pay the extra money and fly first class.
A kid section is not going to solve the issue - you'll still hear them! 90% of the time the babies/toddlers are crying b/c of the altitude and the parents do all they can to console their child.
As for drunks.... not much can be done about that either. Its not like they were drunk when they got their seat assignements. How would you enforce such a ridiculous idea?
Next time drive or boat to your destination - Problem solved!!!
This.0 -
Put me in with the drunks!
And we'll be singing, BYE BYE MISS AMERICAN PIE, DROVE MY CHEVY TO THE LEVY BUT THE LEVY WAS DRY
SING ALONG!~♪0 -
Look, you're obviously not a parent, so I'll be as...nice...as possible.
Normally, I'd agree with you. No one should have to suffer because my child is having a bad day. When he acts up in public, I remove him from the situation until he's calmed down.
However...on a ****ing plane? Where on Earth would you like me to take him? And none of this "Oh, children that can't control themselves shouldn't fly." Like another poster said, sometimes flying is the only way for my child to see his relatives.
It is a young child, trapped in a flying deathtrap with no way out. They are being forced to remain still for hours, a feat that's impossible for most adults, and you expect them to be on their best behavior the entire time, which, again, is a feat that most adults can't even achieve.
Like another poster said, either pay more to fly first class, or quit complaining. I've flown loads of times, all of which were before I had children. I honestly can't stand children, but I've never been annoyed with one who was confused and unhappy to be trapped on an airplane.
ETA: I cannot WAIT for the day *you* have a child on an airplane, and everyone is shooting you death stares because you can't calm them down. Can't. ****ing. Wait.0 -
Look, you're obviously not a parent, so I'll be as...nice...as possible.
Normally, I'd agree with you. No one should have to suffer because my child is having a bad day. When he acts up in public, I remove him from the situation until he's calmed down.
However...on a ****ing plane? Where on Earth would you like me to take him? And none of this "Oh, children that can't control themselves shouldn't fly." Like another poster said, sometimes flying is the only way for my child to see his relatives.
It is a young child, trapped in a flying deathtrap with no way out. They are being forced to remain still for hours, a feat that's impossible for most adults, and you expect them to be on their best behavior the entire time, which, again, is a feat that most adults can't even achieve.
Like another poster said, either pay more to fly first class, or quit complaining. I've flown loads of times, all of which were before I had children. I honestly can't stand children, but I've never been annoyed with one who was confused and unhappy to be trapped on an airplane.
ETA: I cannot WAIT for the day *you* have a child on an airplane, and everyone is shooting you death stares because you can't calm them down. Can't. ****ing. Wait.
I joined this group just to say HELLYEAH to everything Lea said.0 -
It is a young child, trapped in a flying deathtrap with no way out.
Which is exactly why I have to be drunk, or somehow sedated, to be on that plane. So boo to you OP, if I'm too happy on the flight; at least I'm not vomiting in the aisles or clawing at the windows hallucinating monsters eating the wings.0 -
It is a young child, trapped in a flying deathtrap with no way out.
Which is exactly why I have to be drunk, or somehow sedated, to be on that plane. So boo to you OP, if I'm too happy on the flight; at least I'm not vomiting in the aisles or clawing at the windows hallucinating monsters eating the wings.
AND GOOD OLD BOYS WERE DRINKING WHISKEY AND RYE,0 -
yep,,, kids bug me,,0
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It is a young child, trapped in a flying deathtrap with no way out.
Which is exactly why I have to be drunk, or somehow sedated, to be on that plane. So boo to you OP, if I'm too happy on the flight; at least I'm not vomiting in the aisles or clawing at the windows hallucinating monsters eating the wings.
AND GOOD OLD BOYS WERE DRINKING WHISKEY AND RYE,
Aurie, I love you.
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SINGING, "THIS'LL BE THE DAY THAT I DIE. THIS'LL BE THE DAY THAT I DIIIIIIIEEEE."It is a young child, trapped in a flying deathtrap with no way out.
Which is exactly why I have to be drunk, or somehow sedated, to be on that plane. So boo to you OP, if I'm too happy on the flight; at least I'm not vomiting in the aisles or clawing at the windows hallucinating monsters eating the wings.
AND GOOD OLD BOYS WERE DRINKING WHISKEY AND RYE,
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SINGING, "THIS'LL BE THE DAY THAT I DIE. THIS'LL BE THE DAY THAT I DIIIIIIIEEEE."It is a young child, trapped in a flying deathtrap with no way out.
Which is exactly why I have to be drunk, or somehow sedated, to be on that plane. So boo to you OP, if I'm too happy on the flight; at least I'm not vomiting in the aisles or clawing at the windows hallucinating monsters eating the wings.
AND GOOD OLD BOYS WERE DRINKING WHISKEY AND RYE,
*plane crashes*
I hate all of you.0 -
You know what's funny, is last spring, we took my then 14 month old daughter to go meet my extended family (she has seen her daddy's side a time or two as it's within reasonable driving distance... if 12 hours is really all that reasonable)... and on the way to see my family I thought it would be a good idea to hold her (so not the case with my daughter) and she screamed... because again, she was confined... she couldn't get down and move (as she was accostumed to)... there were strange noises and feelings AND she was being treated for a MINOR (<~~~ key word here) earache in one ear (she had been on antibiotics for a couple of days and had the drops to help with pain... we gave her some before we went on the plane)... well about half way through the flight, she FINALLY fell asleep (which I learned quickly for on the way back to pat her to sleep while sitting in her seat before we took off... which worked like a charm)... the flight attendent gave us free wine... Yeah, I think if I had two of their servings of wine, I most definitely could have been both of the people the OP is complaining about.0
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SINGING, "THIS'LL BE THE DAY THAT I DIE. THIS'LL BE THE DAY THAT I DIIIIIIIEEEE."It is a young child, trapped in a flying deathtrap with no way out.
Which is exactly why I have to be drunk, or somehow sedated, to be on that plane. So boo to you OP, if I'm too happy on the flight; at least I'm not vomiting in the aisles or clawing at the windows hallucinating monsters eating the wings.
AND GOOD OLD BOYS WERE DRINKING WHISKEY AND RYE,
*plane crashes*
Oh my god that turned out so much better than I predicted. I swear I didn't mean the irony. That was great.
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Oh God.
SINGING, "THIS'LL BE THE DAY THAT I DIE. THIS'LL BE THE DAY THAT I DIIIIIIIEEEE."It is a young child, trapped in a flying deathtrap with no way out.
Which is exactly why I have to be drunk, or somehow sedated, to be on that plane. So boo to you OP, if I'm too happy on the flight; at least I'm not vomiting in the aisles or clawing at the windows hallucinating monsters eating the wings.
AND GOOD OLD BOYS WERE DRINKING WHISKEY AND RYE,
*plane crashes*
Oh my god that turned out so much better than I predicted. I swear I didn't mean the irony. That was great.
Dying. No idea what that pug has to do with anything. But....dying.0 -
i'm not a kid person, but i don't mind kids on planes. its a necessity, and most parents are very respectful of the other passengers, and if they're not the flight attendants usually are. i feel bad for the kids when the air pressure changes and they cry. that said, it might be nice for the kids and parents if there was a place where the kids could go and run around and play with toys. at least that's how i envision the kids area to be. an area for kids with toys and a place to stretch their legs.
maybe i'm naive, maybe its just a punishment place, in which case i disagree.
as far as the drunks go, i'm not sure there is a feasible way to put them in their own place. maybe just dont over serve them.0 -
I flew my son to Atlanta when he was 9 months old. No one wanted to sit next to us. A few seats ahead some guy was drunk shouting racial slurs/ crying/ upsetting everyone around him. They ended up having to restrain him and move him to the back of the plane. When the flight landed the police had to come on an escort him off before we could deplane.
I nursed my son. He fussed for about 5 mins and slept the whole way.
When they finally got the drunk douche off of the plane I looked at the people around me and said 'hah and you all were worried about sitting next to my kid?'0 -
*walks to the drunk section*0
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*walks to the drunk section*
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*walks to the drunk section*
welcome
xoxoxoxxo
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Look, you're obviously not a parent, so I'll be as...nice...as possible.
Normally, I'd agree with you. No one should have to suffer because my child is having a bad day. When he acts up in public, I remove him from the situation until he's calmed down.
However...on a ****ing plane? Where on Earth would you like me to take him? And none of this "Oh, children that can't control themselves shouldn't fly." Like another poster said, sometimes flying is the only way for my child to see his relatives.
It is a young child, trapped in a flying deathtrap with no way out. They are being forced to remain still for hours, a feat that's impossible for most adults, and you expect them to be on their best behavior the entire time, which, again, is a feat that most adults can't even achieve.
Like another poster said, either pay more to fly first class, or quit complaining. I've flown loads of times, all of which were before I had children. I honestly can't stand children, but I've never been annoyed with one who was confused and unhappy to be trapped on an airplane.
ETA: I cannot WAIT for the day *you* have a child on an airplane, and everyone is shooting you death stares because you can't calm them down. Can't. ****ing. Wait.
Really, all of this.0 -
For almost three years I had to travel by plane for work and average of 2 times a week - to a tourist area. There were plenty of kids on those flights, and plenty of drunks. It really wasn't that bad. They had to get somewhere and so did I. It really did make a difference to make the flights more tolerable when there weren't other people whining about how unfortunate they were to be traveling on a plane with children. I think I may have needed the drunk section at least 50% of the time...0
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Maybe if we allow the kids to get drunk this wouldn't be a problem.0
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Maybe if we allow the kids to get drunk this wouldn't be a problem.
lol, ok. now that is a good idea! I'm just venting. Bad 12 hr flight, stuck in the middle seat between being squeezed between two drunk men while having my seat kicked repeatedly from a crying, screaming, whining, over active ?? yr old (I never turned around). All this while listening to a baby cry almost the whole way. The baby, fine...that can't be helped. But the other two....
I like the idea of a kids section though, somewhere larger, where they can get up, play games ect. Maybe get to watch 'kid friendly/family friendly' movies.0 -
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Anyone intoxicated before boarding the plane should not be allowed to fly, in my opinion, and no-one should be given enough alcohol onboard to become drunk, and a danger/nuisance to other passengers and staff. A drink or two to relax/calm nerves is one thing, excessive drinking and becoming drunk is quite another. If you're so afraid of flying that you can't do so without being sedated in some way, see your doctor for a medicinal option.
As for the kids-on-planes thing, may I suggest you pack ear-plugs and/or noise-cancelling headphones in your carry-on. Unless said child is kicking the back of your seat repeatedly :explode: or otherwise physically affecting you, when I think it's entirely reasonable to ask to be reseated, or to insist that the parent controls that behaviour, I don't think it's reasonable to expect a baby or small child to be quiet and still for the duration...
That said, I think it's a shame that airlines no longer seem to offer the sort of diversions that used to keep me and my sister on best behaviour on a plane - being taken up to the cockpit to meet the pilot and see how things worked was a massive treat. I know we now live in a different world, but it was certainly an effective form of pre-emptive bribery! :laugh: Something that might be of use to travelling parents: we did a lot of trans-pacific flights (10-12 hours) as kids, and my mother often gave us phenergan upon boarding to improve the chances that we'd sleep. Between that, and good supplies of drinks/snacks and things to keep us occupied, those long flights were usually pretty painless.0
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