How much do small-ish girls on here eat?

I'm 5'1" and 105lbs... not sure if I want to gain or lose weight, though. I have somewhat high BF%, though (maybe close to 30?)

Anyways, I eat around 1500 calories a day, and it seems as though I'm either maintaining my weight or slowly gaining. The latter scares me a bit, because I worry that when I weigh in more, I'm getting fatter. I actually find it to be a bit hard to eat more than that, but I'll try if you all think it's important to do so.

How much do other sorta short girls eat on here? I definitely am interested in gaining muscle, but am sorta counting on noob gains right now.

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  • jayliospecky
    jayliospecky Posts: 25,022 Member
    Hi! I am not a small-ish girl, but I noticed nobody had gotten around to replying yet.

    I do have a few thoughts, however. Why do you think your BF is 30%? I don't know if that is actually possible at your height and weight.

    I would recommend that you focus on maintaining or possibly gaining weight. You don't need to lose any more weight, but if you do have a slightly higher body fat percentage than you would like, the solution is to lift weights...which may mean that you would gain muscle, and therefore weight. I think you would probably benefit from getting to know your body at this weight, learning how many calories is maintenance for you, and focus on improving your fitness, rather than worrying about what the scale number says.

    Have you been eating 1500 calories a day for a long time? Have you ever eaten less for an extended period of time? How active are you generally (do you sit for most of the day, walk everywhere you go, fidget a lot.) Do you do cardio right now, and do you intend to keep doing it while you do stronglifts? Also, you say you are either maintaining or slowly gaining...how long have you been tracking your weight? If you're not sure whether you're maintaining or gaining, then I'm guessing you've only seen small changes, in which case they could just be fluctuations.

    There are some TDEE calculators you can use to help estimate what you should need to eat in order to maintain your weight. I think they're on the group stickies. I can get them for you in a minute, if you like. That would be a good place to start in figuring out what you should be eating.
  • jayliospecky
    jayliospecky Posts: 25,022 Member
    Ok, here is one TDEE calculator and a paragraph from one of the stickies.
    For your calories, go here http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html If you sit on your butt all day (sit at work, watch TV at home, eat microwave meals on paper plates) and will ONLY be doing stronglifts, I'd recommend using the "Lightly Active" and maybe subtracting a few cals. If you are slightly more active than that (like you cook and clean your house, do laundry, etc), somewhere between lightly and moderately (run both, take the average, based on where you think you fall pick a number). If you do all that and a fair bit of walking/standing besides throughout the day, moderately active. Beyond that, keep adding.

    I did a quick run of your numbers and if you are VERY sedentary (see the description above) and only doing stronglifts as a workout, then it gives you a TDEE of 1791. So that would be my recommendation of a starting point.
  • tameko2
    tameko2 Posts: 31,634 Member
    Jay said everything I would have said, so I will only add that, its important that you be VERY diligent with your logging during this time, which includes weighing and measuring your food (weigh your dry foods and your nut butters/cheese/sour cream/ect, measure your milk and oil) and not taking any days where you don't even attempt to log. It doesn't need to be PERFECT (if you go out to eat, just guesstimate) but you want to try and get really good data on yourself for about a month, ideally more like 2-3 months.
  • MarshmallowLegs
    MarshmallowLegs Posts: 51 Member
    I'm 5' 118lbs and around 26% bf. I eat 1400 calories a day right now, trying to lose 10 more pounds of fat and gain muscle.
  • hiimanupa
    hiimanupa Posts: 53
    Hi! I am not a small-ish girl, but I noticed nobody had gotten around to replying yet.

    I do have a few thoughts, however. Why do you think your BF is 30%? I don't know if that is actually possible at your height and weight.

    I would recommend that you focus on maintaining or possibly gaining weight. You don't need to lose any more weight, but if you do have a slightly higher body fat percentage than you would like, the solution is to lift weights...which may mean that you would gain muscle, and therefore weight. I think you would probably benefit from getting to know your body at this weight, learning how many calories is maintenance for you, and focus on improving your fitness, rather than worrying about what the scale number says.

    Have you been eating 1500 calories a day for a long time? Have you ever eaten less for an extended period of time? How active are you generally (do you sit for most of the day, walk everywhere you go, fidget a lot.) Do you do cardio right now, and do you intend to keep doing it while you do stronglifts? Also, you say you are either maintaining or slowly gaining...how long have you been tracking your weight? If you're not sure whether you're maintaining or gaining, then I'm guessing you've only seen small changes, in which case they could just be fluctuations.

    There are some TDEE calculators you can use to help estimate what you should need to eat in order to maintain your weight. I think they're on the group stickies. I can get them for you in a minute, if you like. That would be a good place to start in figuring out what you should be eating.

    Thanks for the detailed responses! I've been eating around this much for the last 2-3 months, and before that I was eating ~1300 calories in attempt to lose weight. I ditched the latter plan because I don't think I want to lose weight anymore. Before then, I ate nearly 2000 calories a day. For most of the day, I sit around. My only exercise is walking to and from class/to the dining hall (which are ~0.3 miles away, so really not much at all). Other than that, I lift every other day, and rarely (RARELY) do cardio.

    I've been in this range of weight (103-108lbs) for the past month or so. I'm currently on my period, so I weigh 106 right now (bloating?); also, I haven't been very active throughout my life, so that is why I assume I probably don't have much lean body mass. I think that my tummy looks like that of someone with ~25% bf (looks flat to everyone, but no ab definition unless the room is somewhat dark... waist itself is really small) but I believe I have quite a bit of padding on my butt. ==> 30%? Not sure at all.

    Tameko, I'm right now in college, which makes it a little cumbersome to keep EXACT measurements when I get food from the dining hall. Any suggestions? I tend to do guesstimates, but I'd like to think they're fairly accurate (perhaps with margin of error under +/-50 calories).
  • tameko2
    tameko2 Posts: 31,634 Member
    That's ok for now then, just try to be consistent in how you estimate from day to day. When you move out you might find that you were consistently under or overestimating (so you might think your maintenance is 1500 now, but when you actually prepare your own food you'll realize you consistently underestimated by 200 and its actually 1700). As long as you're consistent and don't forget to log your drinks and snacks, you should be able to move towards your goals effectively since you'll have relative calorie comparisons.


    What you are describing sounds more like 17-20 to me than 25. If you scroll down here you'll see a comparison of a woman at a very muscular 15% vs a very non-muscular 15%
    http://www.leighpeele.com/body-fat-pictures-and-percentages

    Same bodyfat percentages - but the woman on the left probably weighs 10-15 lbs more than the woman on the right (or even more than that, depending on her height.
  • sphira
    sphira Posts: 132 Member
    Hi, I'm 5' 2 and I eat about 1400 and more on lift days if hungry. I think you need to do measurements and find out your BF. I weigh between 132-134 and my BF is 27.6 so I'm sure you are less than 30%. Search In place of a Road Map and it links you to fat to fit radio where you can calculate your BF, TDEE and BMR. I also use the spreadsheet (haybale's ). I only do SL 3 times a week, no cardio, and I haven't lost much in pounds but the inches are coming off.
  • tameko2
    tameko2 Posts: 31,634 Member
    Those bodyfat calculators are wildly inaccurate for some people, so take them with a grain of salt.
  • sphira
    sphira Posts: 132 Member
    Those bodyfat calculators are wildly inaccurate for some people, so take them with a grain of salt.

    Very true, but I figured I would stick to one ( military one on Fat to fit) just to gauge loss in BF. there is such a huge difference when you compare the different types!
  • jayliospecky
    jayliospecky Posts: 25,022 Member
    Hi! I am not a small-ish girl, but I noticed nobody had gotten around to replying yet.

    I do have a few thoughts, however. Why do you think your BF is 30%? I don't know if that is actually possible at your height and weight.

    I would recommend that you focus on maintaining or possibly gaining weight. You don't need to lose any more weight, but if you do have a slightly higher body fat percentage than you would like, the solution is to lift weights...which may mean that you would gain muscle, and therefore weight. I think you would probably benefit from getting to know your body at this weight, learning how many calories is maintenance for you, and focus on improving your fitness, rather than worrying about what the scale number says.

    Have you been eating 1500 calories a day for a long time? Have you ever eaten less for an extended period of time? How active are you generally (do you sit for most of the day, walk everywhere you go, fidget a lot.) Do you do cardio right now, and do you intend to keep doing it while you do stronglifts? Also, you say you are either maintaining or slowly gaining...how long have you been tracking your weight? If you're not sure whether you're maintaining or gaining, then I'm guessing you've only seen small changes, in which case they could just be fluctuations.

    There are some TDEE calculators you can use to help estimate what you should need to eat in order to maintain your weight. I think they're on the group stickies. I can get them for you in a minute, if you like. That would be a good place to start in figuring out what you should be eating.

    Thanks for the detailed responses! I've been eating around this much for the last 2-3 months, and before that I was eating ~1300 calories in attempt to lose weight. I ditched the latter plan because I don't think I want to lose weight anymore. Before then, I ate nearly 2000 calories a day. For most of the day, I sit around. My only exercise is walking to and from class/to the dining hall (which are ~0.3 miles away, so really not much at all). Other than that, I lift every other day, and rarely (RARELY) do cardio.

    I've been in this range of weight (103-108lbs) for the past month or so. I'm currently on my period, so I weigh 106 right now (bloating?); also, I haven't been very active throughout my life, so that is why I assume I probably don't have much lean body mass. I think that my tummy looks like that of someone with ~25% bf (looks flat to everyone, but no ab definition unless the room is somewhat dark... waist itself is really small) but I believe I have quite a bit of padding on my butt. ==> 30%? Not sure at all.

    Tameko, I'm right now in college, which makes it a little cumbersome to keep EXACT measurements when I get food from the dining hall. Any suggestions? I tend to do guesstimates, but I'd like to think they're fairly accurate (perhaps with margin of error under +/-50 calories).

    So, I definitely still think there's no way you could be 30% BF. And it sounds like you're mostly guessing based on what you think you look like, which is probably, like, the LEAST accurate way to estimate. We're usually really hard on ourselves. Plus women's bodies tend to want to have some fat on them, so it's part of what we just ARE. I have quite a lot of cellulite, and I find that dimply thing really makes me feel like I look a lot fatter than I am. And even very thin people can still have cellulite, FYI.

    I would still suggest trying to maintain, based on something like the fitness frog calculator. So I think that was around 1791? And try to be consistent for 4-6 weeks to see if that is your maintenance, or if you need to increase.
  • hiimanupa
    hiimanupa Posts: 53
    Jay, yep, I'll eat at that amount for about a month to see if I maintain with that many calories.

    I also suspect you're right about my BF%; according to a few calculators online (which I understand aren't THAT accurate), it is 19%... somehow I doubt this is true, since people with that little BF have nice abs and all.
  • jayliospecky
    jayliospecky Posts: 25,022 Member
    Jay, yep, I'll eat at that amount for about a month to see if I maintain with that many calories.

    I also suspect you're right about my BF%; according to a few calculators online (which I understand aren't THAT accurate), it is 19%... somehow I doubt this is true, since people with that little BF have nice abs and all.

    Not necessarily. Having visible/nice abs is due to more of a combination of factors. But 19% is probably a decent ballpark estimate.
  • jayliospecky
    jayliospecky Posts: 25,022 Member
    Just as an example, the woman below is approx. 18% body fat in the pictures on the right. So you can see that she doesn't have a lot of visible muscle, but she still has quite a low amount of body fat.

    Finalist-Comparisons_Women_Lowe.jpg

    This woman is also about 18% body fat in the pictures on the right, but I think she has more visible muscle.

    Finalist-Comparisons_Women_pumpkinkelly.jpg
  • hiimanupa
    hiimanupa Posts: 53
    Jay, wow, where did you find these photos?

    Also, the first lady seems quite similar to me, except I have less of a pooch and more fat on my butt (a lot more), and I believe I have fuller thighs.

    I wish I looked more like the second lady, though. :-P Muscle is beautiful.