Questions, Questions, Questions
Soosannah
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Instead of making a new topic for every question that I have, I figured I would just do a compilation of my questions as to not get all fuddled up in a gazillion topics.
1) Gloves or no gloves? I have been using them, but what are y'alls thoughts on them. I didnt use them today except for my deadlifts. I have a knarled oly bar and it was eating up my work callouses . Chalk is not an option in "my gym" because my home gym is set up in my dining room which is at the center of my house. Needless to say, I have to dust enough already.
2) Stress incontience? Does anyone else suffer? How do you deal with it? I do kegels every day. It has gotten better, but any forceful excercise, ie jumping jacks, running on pavement, deadlifts, can often times pose a problem. I am almost 40 and have had 3 children so needless to say I no longer have the bladder of a 20yo.
3) Weight lifting belts? What is the purpose and do you use one? Do I need one?
I had a crapload of questions in my head while I was lifting today but for the life of me I can't remember them. Go figure! I reserve the right to ask more questions later :bigsmile:
1) Gloves or no gloves? I have been using them, but what are y'alls thoughts on them. I didnt use them today except for my deadlifts. I have a knarled oly bar and it was eating up my work callouses . Chalk is not an option in "my gym" because my home gym is set up in my dining room which is at the center of my house. Needless to say, I have to dust enough already.
2) Stress incontience? Does anyone else suffer? How do you deal with it? I do kegels every day. It has gotten better, but any forceful excercise, ie jumping jacks, running on pavement, deadlifts, can often times pose a problem. I am almost 40 and have had 3 children so needless to say I no longer have the bladder of a 20yo.
3) Weight lifting belts? What is the purpose and do you use one? Do I need one?
I had a crapload of questions in my head while I was lifting today but for the life of me I can't remember them. Go figure! I reserve the right to ask more questions later :bigsmile:
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I've started using gloves with the rough knurled bars for pulls. I've just ordered some ecochalk so will try that for a session or two when it arrives.
Can't help on 2.
I believe belts provide additional core support for really heavy lifts, and may not be permitted in some competitions.0 -
One of the physical therapists that was my instructor for a clinical did a lot of work in women's health and sees a lot of people for stress incontinence. I can tell you what I do remember and you could also see a PT if you don't see improvement on your own. I am really interested in women's health and I'm so glad you asked about this because most women think it's 'normal' or they just have to put up with it and you don't!
So here are some things:
1) What is your caffeine/artificial sweetener intake like? Reduced caffeine intake is almost always a big suggestion. Also artificial sweeteners can be a trigger.
2) What is a 'kegel' like to you? Most women think they know but are often doing it wrong. It should be a drawing up feeling, not bearing down, and if you are comfortable with yourself I recommend that you use internal feedback to see if you are doing it right. Also, how are you doing your kegel exercises? Honestly doing too many can actually stimulate your bladder. 10 times once, maayyybeee twice a day is probably enough, and do more of an up & hold for 5 seconds not a little twitch. One way to do it is to sit on the edge of a chair and you will be able to feel your pelvic floor lift up off of the surface like an elevator rising.
3) My instructor made every patient do a drinks/bowel/bladder log, which sounded tedious to me, but it was very helpful for a lot of them. Some people respond well to starting with a bladder schedule and then over time extending the time between each scheduled pee break.
4) Additional exercises that will help train other pelvic floor muscles & related stabilizers
a)ADIM
Lay on your back with your knees bent up comfortable, feet around shoulder width apart. Place your fingers right above your pelvis ("hip bone") where it sticks out in the front. Says "Hisssss" - you should feel a small muscle contract. Practice until you can contract this muscle on purpose without any pelvic tilt. This is your transverse abdominis and it wraps around and keeps your core and pelvic floor stable. This should be active any time you lift weights etc to keep your pelvic in a neutral position.
Progression: When you can contract your TA voluntarily without saying "Hiss" and can hold it while breathing with the pelvic staying in neutral, progress. Drop one knee out slowly to your side - only take it until you lose the contraction or see your hips become tilted. Your pelvis will try to wobble so you really have to control it. Bring it back in, do the other leg. This is much harder than it sounds to do correctly so don't let your pelvic go all wobbly, that won't help you!
b)Obturator Internus & Externus (These muscles connect to:
v1 - Sit in a chair with your knees slightly closer than shoulder width apart. Tie an exercise band or a belt around your thighs near your knees. Press your thighs/knees out against the band, then slowly turn your toes out, and back to neutral.. 10x, 3 sets, 1-2x day
v2 - Sit in the same position. Put a small ball between your knees and squeeze to keep it there. Now slowly turn your toes in, then back to neutral. 10x, 3 sets, 1-2x day.
c) Mini squat with rotations
Perform a tiny squat- maybe 1/4 way to parallel. In that position, roll your knees inward (like you never ever want to do in a true squat lol), then rotate your hips clockwise and counterclockwise. Do it with feet in neutral, turned in, and turned out.
In general with having specifically stress incontinence, you have to re educate your muscles and these exercises will help most people. Obviously tho you know, everyone is different so if you don't see improvement definitely see a PT! Exercises are slightly different if you have urgency, high tone, etc etc.
There are a ton of other exercises if you google but I would start with these... Sorry it's a totally wall of text, just msg me if you want, too! I figured a lot of the ladies might want to know this stuff anyway.0 -
I personally think that 1. and 3. are a matter of personal preference. I use gloves because I'm not interested in getting too calloused, plus I type for a living so I can't afford to hurt my hands, and I use a belt for the heavier things because I'm also not interested in tweaking my back.again.
And fishlover did a great job with #2 already for ya. I think it's just something that women deal with who have had children, and unfortunately we have train our muscles down there to not sag along with the rest of us.0 -
Xi- let me know how the ecochalk works and how dusty it is. I read somewhere about chalks that were less dusty than the standard chalk, but cant seem to remember where.
Thanks Fish! That is a lot of info and I will surely partake! It has gradually improved with weight loss and exercise. More of just a small tinkle now than a full on piss yourself kind of thing. Sorry a little graphic I know. Your advice/tips are far more better than the "wear a tampon" (it slightly occludes the urethra with pressure) and do kegels advice or get your bladder tacked I have read. Also in reading your post I think that it is also possibly due to a pelvic injury I had while I was pregnant with my 3rd son. I fell, partially dislocated hip, fractured tailbone and a separated pubic symphasis which I am sure weakened my pelvic area. And also working jobs where I had to hold my bladder for a really long time (working in the ER and on an ambulance sometimes there is no time to pee or even worse no bathroom to pee). Now when I have to go, I go! I really think it is a shame that women think that this is something they just have "to live with".0 -
So glad for this thread; I have had all those same questions!0
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I have *heard* that gloves hurt your grip strength more than they help because they increase the circumference of what you are gripping (so actually they make it harder to do, which probably gives you a better workout for your grip strength but means you'll actually start having grip issues at lighter weights). But I know some people just find gripping the bar very painful so if you need them, use them, and then if you eventually need to add straps, add straps.
Belts are a more complicated answer. Do you ever NEED one? No. Can you use one - yes, but I'd recommend you not use one until its specifically your core strength that is holding you back from progressing, and at that point I'd only use it on your heaviest sets (But you'll have to learn to use it first with lighter sets as it will affect your form somewhat). I'd also suggest you not use one until you've really learned all the other ways to manage your core, working on keeping it tight, practicing your partial valsalva (inflating your core with air and then holding it trapped there ot provide extra stability), etc.0 -
I would also like to add that using a belt will not prevent against injury.....proper form prevents injury. I've also heard that if you get injured while using a belt that the injury is worse than if you weren't wearing a belt.
And also agree with what Tameko said.0 -
Soos,
Glad you found it helpful! Please don't get your bladder tacked unless you have exhausted all other options... I've seen ppl get it up too high and end up with urgency/frequency instead of incontinence... it just scares me. Your crazy pelvic injuries could most definitely be a factor!!
Tameko - thanks for the insight on gloves, I never really understood why they say not to use them before.
Agree about belts... best thing for safety is core stability... you have a 'belt' built into your body already if you learn to use it! And I see a lot of people (read: bros) at the gym using belts who still have terrible body mechanics so it's apparently not really keeping you in place.0 -
Soos,
Glad you found it helpful! Please don't get your bladder tacked unless you have exhausted all other options... I've seen ppl get it up too high and end up with urgency/frequency instead of incontinence... it just scares me. Your crazy pelvic injuries could most definitely be a factor!!
Tameko - thanks for the insight on gloves, I never really understood why they say not to use them before.
Agree about belts... best thing for safety is core stability... you have a 'belt' built into your body already if you learn to use it! And I see a lot of people (read: bros) at the gym using belts who still have terrible body mechanics so it's apparently not really keeping you in place.
gym bros almost never have any idea what the belt is for but yeah there are a few guys with such bad back posture that I literally ache when I see them. I want to tell them to put all the weights down and go see a PT instead.0 -
Soos,
Glad you found it helpful! Please don't get your bladder tacked unless you have exhausted all other options... I've seen ppl get it up too high and end up with urgency/frequency instead of incontinence... it just scares me. Your crazy pelvic injuries could most definitely be a factor!!
Tameko - thanks for the insight on gloves, I never really understood why they say not to use them before.
Agree about belts... best thing for safety is core stability... you have a 'belt' built into your body already if you learn to use it! And I see a lot of people (read: bros) at the gym using belts who still have terrible body mechanics so it's apparently not really keeping you in place.
I would only get my bladder tacked if it was hanging out of my body and I was certain that they couldn't just stuff it back up in there lol.0 -
re 2 - I had some post second child and saw a physio, the most useful exercise she gave me was: 5x a day (on waking, before bed and after weeing) - I can't say I did this tbh!!
Put your back flat against the wall eg of the cubicle and drop your knees about 4 inches. This means that you aren't relying on your legs for support.
Then pull in your pelvic floor - she described it as 3 separate motions: stop yourself farting, stop yourself weeing, and then 'pull in' as though you are zipping up some trousers that are a bit too tight - so it's right round the front near the pubis this sensation.
Do this and hold for one second ten times.
Then do it and hold for ten seconds once.
Sounds simple, but getting that proper motion is the challenge. She had me do this for a couple of months before I went back and there was a noticeable improvement (one muscle wall was only 'twitching' not contracting, and when I went back it was contracting although not massively strongly). Once you have strengthened the muscle you could reduce this to 3x/day, but as she said you have to keep it up for the rest of your life - not something I'm great at although my stress incontinence has gone.
My friend who is a midwife remembered to do hers by doing them every time she advised someone else to! maybe I had better do that now *looks off into the distance with a focused expression*0 -
Really great post. Bump for reference0
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Re ecochalk - it's a bit dusty, and I need a better bag for it than the ziplock it came in. It did dry the sweat on my hands very effectively, and left no residue on the bar (but it did leave some on the floor where I tried to get it back into the ziplock!). I tend to have very dry skin, and it hasn't noticeably made it worse so far.
Rough knurled bars still hurt with and without chalk. I had no issues with the bar at my last gym till I started doing hack squats + DLs on the same day, but I think that bar (there was only one in the free weights area!) had been worn smoother by use compared to the ones at my new gym.0