I am never going to progres in OHP !!

kopmom
kopmom Posts: 491 Member
On week 5 (workout 15 tomorrow) and I still cannot do a 5x5 OHP with more then 45lbs (bar). Everything else if progressing...UGH !
What is my problem?
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  • DaniH826
    DaniH826 Posts: 1,335 Member
    Go lower and work your way back up.

    Use the shortie women's bar and go from there. Increase in smaller increments than 5 lbs if you can, by using washers or fractional weights. :smile:
  • sarahstrezo
    sarahstrezo Posts: 568 Member
    OHP is hard for us ladies to progress on. I've been stuck at 60lbs forever.
    I agree with maybe deloading a bit and working back up.
  • victoriannsays
    victoriannsays Posts: 568 Member
    ive deloaded and worked my way back up multiple times. still no progress. lol damn OHP
  • Perhaps it's your form maybe?
  • bimmer2331
    bimmer2331 Posts: 59 Member
    Ugh!!!! OHP Is the bane of my existence....I am right there with ya at 45 lbs oly bar....everything else is atleast progressing .... this thing seems i have been stuck on it for an eternity
  • morningmud
    morningmud Posts: 477 Member
    I'm with you on that too. I get through 45# then go up to 50# but can't get 5x5 and have to deload again.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    I'm with you on that too. I get through 45# then go up to 50# but can't get 5x5 and have to deload again.

    Looking into getting fractional weights. Being able to go up by 1-2 pounds instead of 5 is REEEAAAALLLY helpful.
  • juliemouse83
    juliemouse83 Posts: 6,663 Member
    Without reading everyone’s comments, please know that OHP is the freaking lift from hell for me. I thought I was all bad *kitten* and such until I found out I was actually doing a “push press” rather than a straight OHP. Those &&**%$ things. :grumble:

    I’m stuck at what? 50-55 lbs. I am thinking (even tho the hubs doesn’t think I need them) about going ahead and ordering some fractionals, simply because a five lb increase is just too danged much.

    Now I’m going to go back and read comments.

    :flowerforyou:

    ETA: haha…Auddii and I are on the same page…Yay…it’s not just me…(So I am either really smart, or Auddii is a freak, LMAO! I :heart: you, Auddii!)
  • kopmom
    kopmom Posts: 491 Member
    I watched a video on form (Starting Strength video) over and over. I will keep at it. My gym only has 2.5 weights
  • zorreena
    zorreena Posts: 267 Member
    A woman bodybuilder and I just recently had a long chat and she suggested that for OHP I should be using a pyramid. I'm not sure but I'm thinking I might see progress doing this. She admitted she is old school and said she would start at 50 until failure then go to 45 and go until failure. I started the whole conversation with her because aim suffering the same problem with OHP.
  • sarahstrezo
    sarahstrezo Posts: 568 Member
    ^^^ I did just move from strong lifts to a Nia shanks program and she has you do something similar. Your first work set is to positive failure...then you reload 10% and do that until positive failure.

    I'll also add that I did feel a tad bit better about OHP after I put my numbers in the Strength Standards and found out that I'm really lifting at an intermediate level. So, if you do that...you might find that you don't feel so down about it. It's just a hard lift.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    I watched a video on form (Starting Strength video) over and over. I will keep at it. My gym only has 2.5 weights

    I bought my own 1.25lb weights off amazon, and they weren't too pricey. Other girls have bough washers from a fastenal store with a 2 inch inner diameter. They're made from zinc, weigh anywhere from 0.6-1lb, and can be used in multiple combinations to add different amount of weight.
  • morningmud
    morningmud Posts: 477 Member
    If it says "Olympic Plate", it should have a hole large enough for the bar, right? These are the ones that I found on Amazon:

    http://www.amazon.com/Black-Olympic-Plate-1-25-Lbs/dp/B00BYPADJS/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1365685095&sr=8-11&keywords=fractional+weights+plate

    We have a fastener store close-by also, but their website just shows 100-count orders.
  • nexangelus
    nexangelus Posts: 2,080 Member
    It takes time. As I said to another lifter on here, I have been lifting heavy in total for 10 years. Strength is not an overnight thing, neither is any type of fitness or health thing. It is not only about the form, the weight on the barbell or your muscle's ability to lift that weight. If things get tough, there are other things that may or may not help (if you are prepared to be flexible and experiment). These are food intake (calories and macros)...are you eating enough carbs? protein? calories? I know for upper body lifts I need more calories...especially carbs. Are you resting enough? Getting enough hydration and sleep? Are you warming up adequately, stretching the muscles before and after lifts? Are you taking enough rest between sets? Are you trying smaller increments at a time than 2.5 kg - 5 kg?

    Yes, there are a lot of variables...in order to build overall strength, you need time and patience. (hell, it would be fantastic if we could just BAMF every lift, doesn't quite work out this way in reality) If everything in the above paragraph is in order, then maybe it is time to try madcow or Wendler's 5/3/1, just for the OHP. I was shocked at how just warming up properly and resting long enough between sets has made a big difference...that and upping my calorie intake a smidge or two. : )
  • __RANDY__
    __RANDY__ Posts: 1,036 Member
    It takes time.

    Do your home work, find the lifts that help you improve your OHP. For months and months I wanted to just skip the gym on OHP day because I felt it wasn't progressing, so why train for it. One day I adjusted my grip and reevaluated my form, soon I was progressing and now OHP is my favorite lift.
  • Fiesty1006
    Fiesty1006 Posts: 95 Member
    I'm having trouble progressing quickly in OHP too. I'm only at 60lbs. And my last rep was hard.

    I spent two sessions at 55lbs... and now I've spent two sessions at 60lbs.

    Longer rest times between has helped.... And I can tell when my form wasn't good based on difficulty too.

    We'll all get there..... It just takes time. :-)
  • DaniH826
    DaniH826 Posts: 1,335 Member
    At the risk of seeming redundant:
    1. Check your form
    2. Understand the OHP will be the first lift to stall hard on, and for women much sooner than men.
    3. Use fractionals to progress. If you have to, go up a pound a week. Or a half a pound a week. That still allows you to go up 5 pounds in a month or two, which for the OHP is good progress.

    I love the OHP and I'm not worried about taking it ez with that lift because it's such a fabulous whole-body lift, and I would hate to grow to resent it. I'll get there when I'll get there weight-wise. Not worried about it. Going to enjoy the journey and not let some number goal throw me off.
  • macybean
    macybean Posts: 258 Member
    I've been stuck on OHP too...deloaded again last week due to form, so back to 60 pounds. I agree on patience and fractional plates (or socks filled with pennies in my case!).

    Good to know I'm not alone!
  • Cait_Sidhe
    Cait_Sidhe Posts: 3,150 Member
    I watched a video on form (Starting Strength video) over and over. I will keep at it. My gym only has 2.5 weights

    I bought my own 1.25lb weights off amazon, and they weren't too pricey. Other girls have bough washers from a fastenal store with a 2 inch inner diameter. They're made from zinc, weigh anywhere from 0.6-1lb, and can be used in multiple combinations to add different amount of weight.
    I got a set of 2 1 lb ankle weights and they fit perfectly on the Oly bar. Got them for $6 at Burlington Coat Factory.
  • faeriewings1
    faeriewings1 Posts: 98 Member
    I've finally said @&$# it today, and I'm started 3x5 for my overheads. I'm hoping it'll help me progress more as I've been on 25kilos for months
  • nexangelus
    nexangelus Posts: 2,080 Member
    (or socks filled with pennies in my case!).

    I misread pennies for something else, oops! Picking mind up out of the gutter... ; )
  • Cathy7794
    Cathy7794 Posts: 223 Member
    I started the OHP at 45 pounds last May...I was just able to finally lift 80 pounds last week. I was stuck at 70-75 FOREVER! I didn't think I'd ever be able to do 80. I was only able to do 3x5, but I'll take it! lol I'm sure it will be another few months before I'm able to make 85 pounds.
  • linski24
    linski24 Posts: 155 Member
    This has all made me feel so much better :-)
    I'm stuck on 50lb ohp and 60lb bench press..!! Iv only been doing these weights for 4 sessions so I shouldn't whittle and realise that it's ok :-)
    I need new weight set .. A heavier set with olympic weight barbell as on deadlifts I'm going to be at the point where I can't go heavier as I physically can't add anymore weight on the bar :-(
  • karensoxfan
    karensoxfan Posts: 902 Member
    I've been stuck @ 60 lb. on OHP for a few weeks too. Last time, I decided to drop down to 55 lb. again, and that was STILL a struggle. I have to remember not to make it a push press just to get the reps out. I feel like I'm cheating myself if I stop after 2-3 reps, but I'm trying to get over that and focus on good form and doing the move RIGHT.
  • DaniH826
    DaniH826 Posts: 1,335 Member
    Another suggestion is to settle for 1 set of working weight and do your 5x5 staggered rather than straight across.

    Meaning you do a set at say 30, then another at 35, another at 40, another at 50 and another at 55 (which would be your highest attempt for the workout). For example.

    Many traditional 5x5 programs work that way, and in my humble opinion there's no shame in doing it this way if it'll allow you to progress. No shame in having 1 actual "working set" rather than 5 or 3 or whatever. Rippetoe will tell you that the first 2 sets ought to be warm-up sets anyhoo.

    Long as you're progressing, that's what ultimately matters. If straight-across 5x5 for working sets isn't working for you, try another approach.
  • Martucha123
    Martucha123 Posts: 1,089 Member
    just to put things in perspective
    according to this nice calculator http://www.strstd.com/ if you are 140 lbs women, 45lbs OHP for 5 reps puts you right in the middle of untrained and novice. Novice means 6-9 months! of training. Half way there would be 3 to 5 months.
    I am lifting for almost a year. I can do only 55 lbs for 5 reps. That is almost intermediate level (up to 2 years! o f training).
    It sucks when you look at other women here and see they can OHP 100 or 80 or even 60 lbs, but don't measure your progress against others. It's awesome that you managed to start with the oly bar, most women can't even do that. I couldn't, I was using 22 lbs bar in the beginning.
  • lwoodroff
    lwoodroff Posts: 1,431 Member
    ooh nice, thanks! it puts me below untrained for bench, 2/3 of the way towards novice for squat, 1/3 towards intermediate for deadlift and 1/4 towards intermediate for OHP..
  • Martucha123
    Martucha123 Posts: 1,089 Member
    ooh nice, thanks! it puts me below untrained for bench, 2/3 of the way towards novice for squat, 1/3 towards intermediate for deadlift and 1/4 towards intermediate for OHP..

    my bench is also my worst. I'm over intermedita for deads and squats, slightly under for OHP but not even novice when it comes to bench :sad: I hope I'll get to intermidiate during the next year
  • Radiskull
    Radiskull Posts: 70 Member
    I am with you! I am doing lots of dumbbell presses and maybe once a week I use the barbell. I just got frustrated and decided to start all over again. Haven't made any progress yet, but we'll see.
  • caffeinated_frog
    caffeinated_frog Posts: 86 Member
    I'm stuck at 55 for OHP, I can just squeak 5x5 out (with grunting) and rows are stalled at 80. I think fractional weights to take to the gym are next on my list. Others are still going up alright, but I've only been doing this for a couple of weeks. I have the sneaking suspicion that my squats aren't quite proper form, but I don't see others in my gym squatting. Actually, I've only seen one other woman trying the weights, and she was doing deads.