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How much have you improved?

ZenInTexas
ZenInTexas Posts: 781 Member
edited January 24 in Social Groups
It's been a year since I started C25K and I feel like initially I made great improvements in my speed and endurance but I feel like that's slowing down now. I can comfortably run pretty far at a 10 minute mile, I did my half marathon in 2:09, my best 10k in 55:41 and my best 5K in 25:31. I would love to someday be fast enough to qualify for Boston but I don't know if that's realistic? So my question is how long have you been running and how much has your speed improved in that time? I want to know if I'm going to get better over the coming years or is this as good as I'll get. Thanks guys!

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  • closenre
    closenre Posts: 225 Member
    I started seriously a year ago from june and ran 2.8 miles in 35 min. I had recently gotten out of the military and gained a bunch of weight. So I went for the run and decided I was going to train for a marathon. I ran that last nov. in 4:41, then in march i ran another in 3:49! I can run about a 7 min mile pace under 5 miles and around an 8 for a half marathon.
  • CarsonRuns
    CarsonRuns Posts: 3,039 Member
    I will have been running for 10 years this Fall. I started to actually train about 5 years ago, so I'll address that time period. For the first 5 years I was just running for fitness and slowly building a base, though I didn't know at the time that that was what I was doing. I ran my first 5K in June of 2005 and pushed myself to the limit with a 27:56 finish. A year and a half later, I ran my first half marathon and surprised myself with a 1:57:28. I was having a hard time putting together consistent mileage because I was drinking heavily, so I kind of only ran every other day.

    Fast forward to October of 2007. I quit drinking and soon after started to take my training seriously. I hired a coach and started to follow his plans to the letter. The first thing he told me to do was slow down. I was doing all my easy runs too fast (in the 8:45 m/m range). He slowed me down to 9:15 to 9:30 range for easy runs. I started to increase my mileage and the results started to show.

    In 2008, I logged 969 mile running. My best 5K that year was a 22:04.

    In early 2009, I ran my second half marathon in 1:38:51, an ~ 20 minute PR. In 2009, I logged 1804 miles. The increase in mileage paid dividends as I ran 21:15 for 5K in the Fall.

    2010 saw another increase in mileage to 2072 miles. I ran 20:50 for 5K, taking 25 seconds off my PR, 1:34:02 for the half marathon, a decrease of almost 5 minutes and I tackled my first marathon in 3:38:21, running at a 3:30 pace through 20 before bonking and slowing dramatically over the last 6 miles.

    2011, I decided to try the marathon again in the Fall. I ran a total of 2770 miles for the year, 19:50 for the 5K (sub 20!), 1:32:27 for the Half Marathon and finished strong with a negative split run in the marathon in 3:26:52.

    2012, my goal was to qualify for Boston. I needed to run 3:25. I saw a slight dip in total mileage for the year to 2606 miles, but I ran PRs in the 5K (19:37), Half Marathon was in 1:28:05 ( ran three this year, each faster than the one before) and then cruised to a 3:12:20 finish at the Baystate Marathon. PRing by a lot and BQing with plenty of room to spare.


    So, the moral of the story is, "yes, it's realistic but it takes time". There are no shortcuts to getting faster as a distance runner. You just need to log miles over time and great things will happen. Being able to run consistently and nearly injury free is the key.

    Best of luck!
  • DavidMartinez2
    DavidMartinez2 Posts: 840 Member
    You have only been running for a year so I would say "Yes, you can still get better". I found the easiest way to build speed is by doing intervals on the dreadmill. I started by running .25 miles at what felt like a pretty fast pace, then slow it down to a walking pace for .1 miles, then speed up to .2 faster than the first sprint for .25 miles. I would keep repeating that until I felt like I was going to fly off the back of the mill then I would step down in .2 increments until I got back to the the original speed. Eventually as I built more endurance I was able to hold the sprints for .5 miles but that took time. I would also warn you that intervals like this take a lot out of you and are not something you should do more than once a week.

    Some of the other runners on MFP can go into how to do speed work on the track but for a beginner I prefer the dreadmill because you have better control of the pace being ran. Cross-training to improve my core strength and strenghting my hips/glutes and being consistent with my training has helped as well.
  • CarsonRuns
    CarsonRuns Posts: 3,039 Member
    I found the easiest way to build speed is by doing intervals on the dreadmill.

    While interval training is a great way to work on speed, one must first have an aerobic base to support it. Speed work is the icing on the cake, but you have to bake the cake first. That's where lots of easy effort running comes in. Not to mention, interval training to develop speed is only one phase of a 4 phased approach to training. That type of speed work will really only provide benefit for about 6 consecutive weeks, at the end of which you either race (one race or for several weeks worth of races) before returning to the earlier stages of training.
  • ZenInTexas
    ZenInTexas Posts: 781 Member
    Thank you so much guys!! This is what I needed to hear. I'm just going to keep logging my miles and working at my training and trust that I will get better and faster!!!
  • arc918
    arc918 Posts: 2,037 Member
    Carson is a wise man!

    Miles, miles and more miles is what works best for me. I'm about to hit my 11th year of running.

    Half marathon went from the 1:57 to 1:28

    Marathon went from 3:52 to 3:21

    At age 46, it's unclear whether or not I have any more PRs left in me. That said, I have found satisfaction in well executed races, even if they weren't anywhere near my PR. Running even splits and passing runners at mile 24 when their wheels are falling off is awesome at any speed.
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
    Just gotta keep running - increase volume! I started running (again) in January, and was relatively out of shape. I ran my 5K at 28:00ish, and I currently have a new PR of 21:30. You gotta remember that there is a difference between "training" and "performance." When you are training, you should be able to carry a conversation (this is aerobic), and if you are not able to, you are probably in the anaerobic zone and won't see many gains (but you need the aerobic base, as stated before). You can't "perform" every time you lace up your shoes.
  • essjay76
    essjay76 Posts: 465 Member
    Agree with a lot of what was stated here. Many people will experience the most gains at the beginning, and as they get faster, it gets harder to shave off even just a few minutes. If you've only been running a year, you've probably still got a lot in you.

    I have a similar story. I had been running for about 14 years, but nothing like I run now. I just started running to lose weight and then kept it up because I found I loved to run. I never worried about mileage, pace, anything. I then decided to start running marathons just to finish. I didn't know much about training, and this was before the age of the internet where information was so easily available.

    I then decided I wanted to start improving my times to see what I was capable of. That was 2011. I started running consistent mileage, learned about training properly, learned to slow down, and learned to run more.

    My improvement has been slow and steady. My times at the beginning of my journey were similar to yours - a 2:08 half marathon, 25:55 5k.

    Though I finished many marathons before, my first one where I had a time goal was 4:38. The best thing that worked for my shorter races was my marathon training. I went from running 30 miles a week to consistently running 45+ mpw, and I saw huge gains in my marathon time. Took 20 minutes off that time.


    I then broke the 2 hour mark at 1:57 just a few races after that, am close to breaking the 50 minute mark for a 10k, and my 15k pace is now close to what my 25:55 5k pace was back then. I haven't full out raced a 5k since then but I know I can definitely PR in that. Marathon time is now much closer to breaking 4 hours now.

    The most important thing is that I've been injury free this time around, and I listen to my body. I learned that it doesn't have to be a race everyday and my paces have improved where it matters most (actual race day). Patience is key. It's so easy to want to improve so much so fast. It will happen though! Keep it up!
  • RatherBeInTheShire
    RatherBeInTheShire Posts: 561 Member
    On a shorter time scale than some who posted here.. I've been running since 2010. Ran my first half in 5/2011 and came in at 2:37 and by march of 2012 I got my half marathon PR at 2:15. That was only in a year. I've never done speedwork because I really just enjoy running, and I don't want it to feel like work. I'm training for my 10th half marathon soon.

    When I started in 2010, I was running a 14mm, and now I can run about a 10.5mm over 13.1
    This was all done by just running. I've never done speedwork. I think you can certainly improve much more!
  • marnijojo
    marnijojo Posts: 235 Member
    I have been running for about 2 years and have only done one half marathon. Most of my improvement is in increased edurance. Unfortunately, my speed remains right around the 10min/mile mark - but I am consistent on that pace. After reading these posts, I am going to start increasing my mileage and see if that helps break me out of my rut. Thanks!!
  • mjpTennis
    mjpTennis Posts: 6,165 Member
    Carson - congrats on the healthy life improvements and thanks for sharing your story. I was thinking about trying to run my first 10k, first half and first full this year, but I think I will spread them out and slow down a bit. I have also seen gains in times from running more. Within a year have gone down to running 5ks down from 30 min to 25 min. Also, concentrated on my foot striking and form, and that has shaved time too. It also has made me a more efficient runner and has given me renewed hope that I can improve more. I haven't raced yet since changing my foot striking, but I am excited to experience the difference.

    Have also added in routine stretching and light running weight training to add some focus.
  • WhataBroad
    WhataBroad Posts: 1,091 Member
    I just did a hilly 10k on Sunday and took 1:55 off my time from 1.5 months previous on a relatively flat course!
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