Between this:

http://www.videogamer.com/news/xbox_one_isnt_always-online_but_it_does_need_connecting_to_the_internet_every_24_hours.html

and this:

http://www.gamespot.com/features/xbox-ones-offline-pass-is-an-ill-conceived-tax-6408691/

...Micro$oft can officially go screw themselves.

PC gaming has never looked sweeter.

Their used game model, paying a fee to use on friend's Xbox, etc etc is making me say no to this. I don't like it one bit.

Sticking with my 3DS.

But with this new policy they might be able to drop game prices across the board, they lose a lot of money to used games when you think about it. Steam does it and no one seems to care...

So the plot thickens.......

Cliffs Notes: Yes there will be a "fee" but it will be the game shop owners that pay it, not the consumers.

From: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-05-24-this-is-how-xbox-one-game-trade-ins-will-work-apparently



You, the shopper, won't have to pay the activation fee for a used Xbox One game - the shop will. Therefore, the price you see on a second-hand Xbox One game in a shop is the price you'll pay to be able to play it.

That's what a high-ranking UK industry source explained to me this afternoon.

The reason there's all this confusion is because Microsoft hasn't decided what the activation fee will be yet. The £35 figure reported in the story below sounds too high - perhaps it includes the shop's sale price as well.

My source confirmed that part of that activation fee will go to a publisher and part to Microsoft.

What this means for second-hand games is that Microsoft effectively controls how much they cost, because it controls the activation fee. Whether that fee will move up or down or diminish over time isn't clear. But it does mean second-hand games will probably be more expensive than they are now.

My source didn't know what Sony was up to but doubts the PlayStation maker will do the same thing, not because it's angelic but because it lacks the kind of pricey infrastructure something like this requires.


(Updated version above)
Original story: If you want to trade in an Xbox One game you will need to find a shop that has agreed to Microsoft's terms and is therefore connected to the Xbox One cloud.

The game will be registered as traded in and will be wiped from your Xbox Live account. The shop can resell it for whatever price it likes but the game's publisher now takes a cut and so does Microsoft, a source-based MCV report revealed.

Anyone buying that second-hand game will need to pay an activation fee of £35, a separate unconfirmed report on ConsoleDeals.co.uk claimed.


Presumably.
The same report [did not say a shop's cut from that second-hand sale could be as low as 10 per cent -Bertie] said shops could be forced to sell second-hand games at a maximum discount of 10 per cent.

Combine that measly 10 per cent discount and the £35 activation fee and you have figures that add up to not much sense at all for the shopper.

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Colin hates spandex and booties but is fine with stickers. "We have only confirmed that we designed Xbox One to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail," said Microsoft on the matter.

We know that Xbox One games will be tied to both a gamer's account and their Xbox One. Everyone who has an account on that Xbox One can play the game linked to it. If the game is played elsewhere on another Xbox One, however, only the owner's Xbox Live account can play it.

Rumours of an activation fee are what we believe has been holding Microsoft back from explaining second-hand Xbox One sales so far. Whether that's because the fee is high, as claimed here, or because there are specific retailer partnerships to announce, as also suggested here, isn't clear. Both, perhaps? E3 should clear the matter up, unless Microsoft's forced to respond sooner.

It just means gamestop will only give you $1 for a game instead of $10 and sell it for $35...

We still know next to nothing about how everything is going to work, what the game lineup is going to be, as well as anything else.

But hey this one feature that I might not like is going to totes ruin it for me.

Jumping to conclusions man AWAY!!!!!

This is amazing!!! Finally I can watch TV on my TV

:smokin:

I think I'm going with the PS4 this gen. The thing about not being able to borrow/rent/etc is quite annoying, and I'm not particularly interested in using a gaming console to watch tv

Newest thing I read (of course doesn't mean it is true) was that when you watch cable programming, the Kinect sensor will monitor your heart rate for various marketing purposes. Just feels so invasive to have that thing just keep watching your every move. I am sure this is not something you can't turn off but my god how much more could they possibly do to jeopardize our privacy.