Long Runs & HUNGER
paxbfl
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In the past year I've lost 50 pounds and rediscovered running. I'm currently training for my first half-marathon in a decade. I thought my knees couldn't handle running. It's amazing how much better my knees feel after losing 50 pounds!
When I run 6+ miles, I find that I'm really hungry. Now I realize I need to eat back these calories to fuel my runs, but I'm nervous about eating a ton of crap and falling back into my bad eating habits.
So what do you guys eat? Do you eat back ALL the calories you burn from running? I wouldn't mind dropping a couple more pounds, but it's not critical - I'm in my ideal body fat range.
When I run 6+ miles, I find that I'm really hungry. Now I realize I need to eat back these calories to fuel my runs, but I'm nervous about eating a ton of crap and falling back into my bad eating habits.
So what do you guys eat? Do you eat back ALL the calories you burn from running? I wouldn't mind dropping a couple more pounds, but it's not critical - I'm in my ideal body fat range.
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The more I run, the lower my heart rate stays. The lower my heart rate stays, the less I need to eat to offset. I do 35-45 MPW and eat 2000cal/day, everyday, regardless of what I burned. I never trusted the calculation, and I use an HRM. My diary is open if you wanna look around.0
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Thanks for your reply. I checked out your times, you're doing awesome!
What is your BMR and TDEE? I'm 6' 2", 200 pounds,13% body fat, BMR is around 1850, TDEE is 2330. Today I ate about 2300 cals, ran 6 in about 56mins and burned 830 calories per my MRM. So my net is under 1500 - under my BMR. I'm thinking I should probably eat 2800 on running days but I'm curious for opinions.0 -
I eat back all of my calories. That being said I try to focus on NCB instead of TCB. I posted this thread on the topic recently:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1095374-total-calorie-burn-vs-net-calorie-burn
I have been able to maintain my ideal running weight all year with this method0 -
Ive noticed that since i have tossed 25 lbs, i really do not even need to make my goal. I overeat 1 day a week to keep my body from slowing down my metabolism. I do speed work and several runs during the week also, so i also have a very slow resting heart rate.0
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I too eat back all of my calories. I'm female, 30 years old, 5'7, 137-139 lbs right now, approximately 17% bf (I've was leaner but was way too hangry and gained back some fat intentionally). My BMR is est to be 1400, my TDEE est 2100 on a normal day (I'm a very busy, can't sit still type of person) and so I eat 2100 on rest days, or more on days that I have lots of errands etc and on running or workout days, I always eat back 75% of my calories burned.
I never net lower than my BMR (I have no problems further leaning out eating above it). I refuse to be a victim of my own stupidity disrespecting my long term health just to PR (I'm never going to be an elite or win races, it's a hobby), so I eat for hormone/bone health.
Speaking from the female perspective I try to maintain a healthy body fat % and avoid amenorrhea. I don't want to ever be labeled as having female athletes triad. -.- (Edited to add, that eating lots of veggies and at least 1g/lb LBM of protein helps keep me fuller on hangry running days).0 -
I prefer to eat more before a run than try to "replace" afterward. I eat more on Friday's in anticipation of my long run on Saturday. I generally try to stick with 2000 cals a day regardless of what I do. Sometimes it's more.0
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I eat between 1600 and 1800 every day with the goal of losing a pound a week. I'm near the end of a marathon training cycle, so I will go up to 2000 the day prior to and the day of a long run. I run most of my miles very easy (HR ~120), so if I use the MFP calculations and eat back all my exercise calories I will gain. I don't estimate either, I weigh portions. The MFP calculations appear to assume that anyone running a 9:00 mile is working harder than I am. For reference, I'm a little guy. 5'4", 125 pounds.0
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I've found that the MFP calculator overestimates the burn for me as well. I made my own exercise, which I call "Dave Running," that cuts about 30% off of the MFP calculations and I eat that back. Works for me -- I haven't been losing much lately but I have also been over my goal on a lot of days.0
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My BMR is ~1500 calories; I target ~1650-1700 calories every day based on TDEE with a target to lose a little over 1 lb per week, though I'm under that more often than not. I'm one of the weird ones for whom long runs serve as an appetite suppressant, so have no issue staying at that same intake on long run days (e.g., this past Sunday, I ran 16 miles and burned >1600 calories according to my HRM... I still ate ~1700 calories that day). I may find that I'm a bit hungrier the next day,but still stick to my 1650-1700 calorie target. If I was using the MFP method (vs. TDEE) and eating back exercise calories, I just think I'd find it hard to eat all the exercise calories from a 16+ miler on long run day, and I wouldn't trust the calorie burn estimation, even from my HRM. Perhaps that's because I'm obsessively trying to drop the pounds prior to race day and am mildly insane! :laugh:0
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I'm currently trying to figure out my nutrition as well. I went to see a nutritionist which was enormously helpful, and though she estimated my intake (an average over 3 days) to be in the 1800 range, my logging was closer to 1500. She said I'd probably need about 2100 calories to maintain where I'm at now (healthy weight, well within the "normal" range and very close to my goal weight), but I honestly find it hard to eat 2100 calories without dipping into junk foods, both mentally and physically.
I'm in marathon training mode (week 7), so my mileage is still at about 25-30 miles or so a week and I'm finding that I'm still losing a bit of weight. In the last 3 weeks or so, I've probably dropped 3 lbs, which is a LOT for me (this is also taking in normal 1-2 lb fluctuations I see anyway), and probably 5 lbs. from the beginning of marathon training.
I will say that I've been consciously trying to eat more on rest and training days, regardless of my burn and to continue to fuel during running (long runs and speedwork when needed) and it's helping me feel better physically, but it's still hard to get my head wrapped around eating 2100 cal/day.0 -
I'm one of the weird ones for whom long runs serve as an appetite suppressant, so have no issue staying at that same intake on long run days (e.g., this past Sunday, I ran 16 miles and burned >1600 calories according to my HRM... I still ate ~1700 calories that day).
I'm totally this too! Ironically I'm not hungry at all after a long run, but the next day I want to eat everything in sight! I call those my T-Rex days.0 -
I eat back all of my calories. That being said I try to focus on NCB instead of TCB. I posted this thread on the topic recently:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1095374-total-calorie-burn-vs-net-calorie-burn
I have been able to maintain my ideal running weight all year with this method
Interesting. I wonder if my HRM (Polar) already takes this into account in its calculations. I also believe MFP's calculations are high, but my Polar calorie counts are significantly lower (60-75%) depending on the activity.
I agree with the philosophy of not eating back all the calories (just to be on the safe side). Eating back 3/4 of the exercise calories burned should be safe to maintain weight. So if my TDEE before exercise is 2300, I burn 800 calories on a long run, I could eat 600 of those calories back which is 2900 calories and still be ok.
I probably won't eat that much but it's nice to know I could. Now I just need to make good decisions on what I eat. But with a little planning I should be able to manage.
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In the past year I've lost 50 pounds and rediscovered running. I'm currently training for my first half-marathon in a decade. I thought my knees couldn't handle running. It's amazing how much better my knees feel after losing 50 pounds!
When I run 6+ miles, I find that I'm really hungry. Now I realize I need to eat back these calories to fuel my runs, but I'm nervous about eating a ton of crap and falling back into my bad eating habits.
So what do you guys eat? Do you eat back ALL the calories you burn from running? I wouldn't mind dropping a couple more pounds, but it's not critical - I'm in my ideal body fat range.
You are asking the wrong question. Eating back calories is not relevant here...you eat back if you are hungry. If you are not, don't worry. The concept of eating back calories or not is more for weight loss. But you said that is not your main focus, it's just a "would be nice".
What you need to ask is 1) What is your nutritional intake before a run 2) After a run 3) And what is your hydration before, during and after a run.
Consuming slower burning carbs about 30-45 minutes before a run will allow those carbs and/or sugars present in the carbs to be turned into glycogen, which is your fuel for your run. You also want to make sure you are keeping yourself hydrated throughout the day...but be careful not to overhydrate...most people don't have to worry about overhydration though, since consuming that quantity of fluid usually is uncomfortable for most.
During your run, bring some water with you if you find you typically need it. Until your runs start getting in the 2+ hour range, your body technically shouldn't be burning through all of your sodium and glycogen stores, so stuff like Gu or Gatorade may be overkill.
Remember, hunger from running is typically caused more by lack of or poor choice of proper nutrients before your runs, as well as not staying hydrated enough.0