I don't think its so much about banning e-cigs as it is about what the person seeing him will think. If smoking indoor isn't allowed in your state (as it is in most states) then you can get fined for even using e-cig since officers can't see right away if its a e-cig or regular. While ridiculous, it is how it is and thats what matters to corporates.

Also, not sure if you have decent amount customer/client traffic at your work but it would be too much of a hassle to tell customers "no smoking" when they can look at a worker and say "well, he's smoking". To pain in the *kitten* customers, it won't matter if its e-cig or not. They just wanna be annoying and thats enough to let them get started.

So yes, while its a stupid thing, I would say the business is right in covering their own (and their employees) *kitten*.

This is getting ridiculous. Obviously, if it ACTUALLY affects other people, it shouldn't be used. But I've been around those and they have no odor and give off no harmful smoke or vapors.

I'd think smokes using those at their desks would be more productive. Probably shouldn't be used in front of the public, but if you don't deal with the public, no big deal.

Nanny state crap annoys me.

I don't think its so much about banning e-cigs as it is about what the person seeing him will think. If smoking indoor isn't allowed in your state (as it is in most states) then you can get fined for even using e-cig since officers can't see right away if its a e-cig or regular. While ridiculous, it is how it is and thats what matters to corporates.

Also, not sure if you have decent amount customer/client traffic at your work but it would be too much of a hassle to tell customers "no smoking" when they can look at a worker and say "well, he's smoking". To pain in the *kitten* customers, it won't matter if its e-cig or not. They just wanna be annoying and thats enough to let them get started.

So yes, while its a stupid thing, I would say the business is right in covering their own (and their employees) *kitten*.

The difference between a cigarette and an e-cigarette is VERY noticable. You can absolutely tell the difference. Have you actually seen one in person?

E-cigs do use a tobacco product, but it doesn't have the nicotine and other chemicals that make smoking more harmful than just straight tobacco.. and it doesn't give off an inhalent that is also as dangerous to everyone that breaths it in.

They actually do have nicotine.

I thought that was the whole point... no nicotine and no chemicals. :shrugs:

E-cigs do use a tobacco product, but it doesn't have the nicotine and other chemicals that make smoking more harmful than just straight tobacco.. and it doesn't give off an inhalent that is also as dangerous to everyone that breaths it in.

They actually do have nicotine.

I thought that was the whole point... no nicotine and no chemicals. :shrugs:

You can get a nicotine free cartridge for many of them. But there are cartridges with varying nicotine levels, comparable to "light" and "full flavor" cigs.

I don't think its so much about banning e-cigs as it is about what the person seeing him will think. If smoking indoor isn't allowed in your state (as it is in most states) then you can get fined for even using e-cig since officers can't see right away if its a e-cig or regular. While ridiculous, it is how it is and thats what matters to corporates.

Also, not sure if you have decent amount customer/client traffic at your work but it would be too much of a hassle to tell customers "no smoking" when they can look at a worker and say "well, he's smoking". To pain in the *kitten* customers, it won't matter if its e-cig or not. They just wanna be annoying and thats enough to let them get started.

So yes, while its a stupid thing, I would say the business is right in covering their own (and their employees) *kitten*.

The difference between a cigarette and an e-cigarette is VERY noticable. You can absolutely tell the difference. Have you actually seen one in person?

I'm a smoker and I've worked at convinience store that sells them. yes, I am very familiar with them

For somebody who hasn't seen them, no, there isn't much difference. Specially from a decent distance. I have had cops tell me this info. Once again, it is not about me, you, or the business thats banning them. But rather about what the people who object (or use the info in a negative way) see it.

Huh. I saw one for the first time Saturday night from all the way across a room and knew it wasn't a cigarette.

I don't think its so much about banning e-cigs as it is about what the person seeing him will think. If smoking indoor isn't allowed in your state (as it is in most states) then you can get fined for even using e-cig since officers can't see right away if its a e-cig or regular. While ridiculous, it is how it is and thats what matters to corporates.

Also, not sure if you have decent amount customer/client traffic at your work but it would be too much of a hassle to tell customers "no smoking" when they can look at a worker and say "well, he's smoking". To pain in the *kitten* customers, it won't matter if its e-cig or not. They just wanna be annoying and thats enough to let them get started.

So yes, while its a stupid thing, I would say the business is right in covering their own (and their employees) *kitten*.

The difference between a cigarette and an e-cigarette is VERY noticable. You can absolutely tell the difference. Have you actually seen one in person?

I'm a smoker and I've worked at convinience store that sells them. yes, I am very familiar with them

For somebody who hasn't seen them, no, there isn't much difference. Specially from a decent distance. I have had cops tell me this info. Once again, it is not about me, you, or the business thats banning them. But rather about what the people who object (or use the info in a negative way) see it.

Huh. I saw one for the first time Saturday night from all the way across a room and knew it wasn't a cigarette.

Many of them are the same size, give out "smoke" and everything. They do lack the smell. Depending on the model, it can be hard to distinguish.

I don't think its so much about banning e-cigs as it is about what the person seeing him will think. If smoking indoor isn't allowed in your state (as it is in most states) then you can get fined for even using e-cig since officers can't see right away if its a e-cig or regular. While ridiculous, it is how it is and thats what matters to corporates.

Also, not sure if you have decent amount customer/client traffic at your work but it would be too much of a hassle to tell customers "no smoking" when they can look at a worker and say "well, he's smoking". To pain in the *kitten* customers, it won't matter if its e-cig or not. They just wanna be annoying and thats enough to let them get started.

So yes, while its a stupid thing, I would say the business is right in covering their own (and their employees) *kitten*.

The difference between a cigarette and an e-cigarette is VERY noticable. You can absolutely tell the difference. Have you actually seen one in person?

I'm a smoker and I've worked at convinience store that sells them. yes, I am very familiar with them

For somebody who hasn't seen them, no, there isn't much difference. Specially from a decent distance. I have had cops tell me this info. Once again, it is not about me, you, or the business thats banning them. But rather about what the people who object (or use the info in a negative way) see it.

Huh. I saw one for the first time Saturday night from all the way across a room and knew it wasn't a cigarette.

Many of them are the same size, give out "smoke" and everything. They do lack the smell. Depending on the model, it can be hard to distinguish.

OK. I can go with that. This one didn't even slightly resemble a traditional cigarette, other than being longish and thin, I guess.

THere are several different models of e-cigs and some do look like cig (for example blu) but the more popular ones like vaper shark look nothing like a cig.

I have been a smoker since I was 17 yrs old. I picked up one of these e-cigs in April and haven't had a real cig since. I can smoke them in non-smoking bars and have never had a problem. My smokers cough is gone and so are alot of the side effects from smoking.
Mine contains nicotine but I have also brought down the lvl from 24 to 18 . They have different flavors and do not contain all the crap that is in cigs. The particular brand I use is FDA approved (even though its not required yet) and is based in plant glycerine. there is no odor. However a company can pretty much ban whatever they want from their buildings.

There were a couple of guys where I used to work that used them, but we're law enforcement and I don't think they used them in view of public. I'm in an office environment now and I doubt they would be approved.
I have one (as you know) and I love it. And it's small like a cigarette and blows out vapour. I used it once in the restaurant where my brother works (just to show him) and I got some dirty looks and one of the waiters thought I was smoking.
Even though I think that this is a fantastic alternative to smoking, I think it would be weird to see someone puffing on them in the office...unless they were vapourless and then that would kind of be more like chewing on a pencil.
Tooo much coffee....rambling sentences.

Ok...to start with, I fully concede that private citizens on private property such as their homes and businesses are allowed to dictate the rules of their domain as long as they are constitutional.....but sometimes owners, managers, and directors have way too much time on their hands. I am an ex-smoker....I hate cigs on many levels....but our society has gone completely overboard on the second hand smoke thing. Yes, second hand smoke is bad in confined areas...but only in America do people worry about inhaling the cigarette smoke from a guy sitting 30 feet away while outdoors but never once wonder if the exhaust coming out of the millions of cars driving by might be more harmful.....but I digress.

First off, because I can be sort of a pain in the rear....if my boss or my handbook specifically says NO SMOKING...I would be quick to point out....e-cigs are not smoking. Smoke requires a fire burning something...no fire...no smoke...no smoking. See. Now if it said no tobacco use, that is different. But if it said no smoking....I would harass the boss or the manager and point out every day how the hand book is wrong until they finally saw reason or is forced to spend money on fixing the handbook....because these stupid rules come from bored management.

If someone has switched from cigs to an e-cig....good for them. I am glad they are trying to quit and I hope that smokers who are jonesing for a puff at work but can't, see the person smoking an e-cig and that little light bulb in their head goes off and they make the switch as well. I probably should have used the e-cig. I have been smoke free for about 3 months and this time around (I have quit before) it has been rough. I think about it non-stop, so if smokers have found away to quit that doesn't turn them into a basket case....awesome. Let's support them instead of letting management make a bunch of nonsensical jerk off rules.