Have you been sick more often?

Railr0aderTony
Railr0aderTony Posts: 6,803 Member
I know it could be fate or bad luck but I never used to get sick. I would catch a cold for a day or two and be back at it. But the last almost two years of deficit eatting I have been sick more often than any other time in my life. Is there any connection? do you think that it wears at the immune system? There are a few really smart guys in this group that could probably give some great answers. I want to hear everyones examples.

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  • downsizinghoss
    downsizinghoss Posts: 1,035 Member
    It could have an affect. You are under more physical stress than you used to be. But I have also noted that when I do get sick, I recover more easily now. Wish I had a better answer.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    I tend to think it's one of many stresses that can pile up your personal level, that your immune system can be shot.

    And it's all too easy to NOT back off some optional stress when other forced stress is occurring, meaning you are open more often to a body not ready to fight and win against the germs.

    We know the extreme examples can be bad, but I fully believe the smaller ones can eventually lead to same thing.

    Like big deficit, terrible food choices, lack of sleep, overtraining - really shouldn't be surprised to have a body unable to fight off germs successfully.
    Now because of those things, say you get allergy effect more now, or now in general, and that's a hard stress on system.

    I think many of us with normally a reasonable deficit, pretty decent food choices, mostly better sleep, not training too much or it doesn't seem like it anyway - could still hit situations in life that add more stress.

    Now the combined level of stress on the body is bad enough that really, if we knew, we should back off one of the other stresses.
    But how often do we have stresses in life - and sleep better.
    Or stressful situations going on - and eat better.
    Perhaps we still try to squeeze in a hard workout, to make up for some missed ones.
    Or we take a steeper deficit to make up for not getting to workout, or don't even pay attention to food levels and don't feel like eating during the stress.

    If I don't back off quick, I've seen how long I can drag sickness on.

    I'm one of those that does push the body to the edge teetering. Usually works. Sadly learned working night shift years ago, you can always make up for lack of sleep with food. One of those trading stresses. But only for so long.
  • Railr0aderTony
    Railr0aderTony Posts: 6,803 Member
    I tend to think it's one of many stresses that can pile up your personal level, that your immune system can be shot.

    And it's all too easy to NOT back off some optional stress when other forced stress is occurring, meaning you are open more often to a body not ready to fight and win against the germs.

    We know the extreme examples can be bad, but I fully believe the smaller ones can eventually lead to same thing.

    Like big deficit, terrible food choices, lack of sleep, overtraining - really shouldn't be surprised to have a body unable to fight off germs successfully.
    Now because of those things, say you get allergy effect more now, or now in general, and that's a hard stress on system.

    I think many of us with normally a reasonable deficit, pretty decent food choices, mostly better sleep, not training too much or it doesn't seem like it anyway - could still hit situations in life that add more stress.

    Now the combined level of stress on the body is bad enough that really, if we knew, we should back off one of the other stresses.
    But how often do we have stresses in life - and sleep better.
    Or stressful situations going on - and eat better.
    Perhaps we still try to squeeze in a hard workout, to make up for some missed ones.
    Or we take a steeper deficit to make up for not getting to workout, or don't even pay attention to food levels and don't feel like eating during the stress.

    If I don't back off quick, I've seen how long I can drag sickness on.

    I'm one of those that does push the body to the edge teetering. Usually works. Sadly learned working night shift years ago, you can always make up for lack of sleep with food. One of those trading stresses. But only for so long.

    Thanks Heybales, I am sure that is is a little of all the above with working swing shift and working out and the 2 years of calorie restriction at varrying levels. It seemed I was fighting some kind of bug all year this year at all times. Had two Sinus infections and the second one it took two seperate Antibiotics to clear. You are also right that you can always fight sleep with food. Great info Thanks again to you and Hoss for replying.
  • mheebner
    mheebner Posts: 285 Member
    Honestly I don't know the answer to that but I am starting to formulate my own opinions. In the last 40 years I have very, very rarely been sick. I worked twenty years, 10-12 hours a day in a factory setting and had taken only 5 personal days. And of of those 5 days, really only 3 were due to sickness, 2 were just 'sick days' I used for other reasons. I would get sick but for never more than about two days, and after it had run its course I was literally good to go. One great night sleep and I was damn near 100%.

    I have been running a big deficit for about 6 months now. In that 6 months I have had a couple of minor colds, and a flu that I have been battling for about 10 days now. Never in my life have I ever had something like this linger, and linger, and linger. I just cant seem to shake this sickness. It is annoying and frustrating. It has affected my energy level, my motivation, my overall mood and outlook. I have put more chemicals into my body dealing with cough and congestion in the last week than I have the previous 40 years COMBINED.

    Coincidence ? I don't know but it sure seems like my body dealt with sickness a lot better than it is handling in now. I know that in the long run being at a healthy weight and just being healthy in general in the best path but if this is the trade off I am not sure I can handle it. I honestly don't know how people can handle being sick more than once a year or for multiple days at a time.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Great point on age I forgot.

    Well all seem to have that personal level of where stress is too much when stacked up and we'll get bad effects.

    That level definitely drops as we get older, that's just true in physical sense.

    I can't imagine how bad I'd be off if I tried to follow my night shift schedule from my 20's.
  • dethjester
    dethjester Posts: 28 Member
    Don't know if this got touched on, but cortisol, the stress hormone goes through the roof when calorie deficit has been a regular thing. Not only can this lead to easy fat storage but it seems to also be linked to depressed immune systems.

    I am sure there have to be some knowledgable dudes out there who know the specifics but this is something I must have read somewhere at somepoint on some blog or another :)
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Don't know if this got touched on, but cortisol, the stress hormone goes through the roof when calorie deficit has been a regular thing. Not only can this lead to easy fat storage but it seems to also be linked to depressed immune systems.

    I am sure there have to be some knowledgable dudes out there who know the specifics but this is something I must have read somewhere at somepoint on some blog or another :)

    Exactly, any stress will release cortisol, unreasonable deficit for your body, life, frequent intense exercise, lack of sleep, ect.

    Spikes of it are good, elevated is bad. And it sets off a host of other hormones that if elevated give the bad effects too.

    http://dujs.dartmouth.edu/fall-2010/the-physiology-of-stress-cortisol-and-the-hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal-axis#.UrKd03CWaQk

    It's the hormone related to breakdown of muscle mass, protein, for making carbs, when deficit is too great.
  • mheebner
    mheebner Posts: 285 Member
    Well that makes sense. Thanks for the information. Never would have thought of elevated cortisol levels.