Hi There fellow Expats.

ExpatDiva
ExpatDiva Posts: 5 Member
Nice to see a group of expats.
I now live in South Africa but have been an expat for over 20 years. It has been a wonderful adventure and I love every minute of it..
One thing I want to share is a concept I have just coined as...
Eternal Vacation Mentality. (EVM)
This may not happen to you but it sure does to me.
For years I have been taking before photos in hopes of finally getting that awesome thin AFTER photo.
Well, the truth is my before photos just keep getting bigger and bigger.. so I had to analyze what I thought was happening.
Here it is.
Since I live in such interesting places and have many visitor, each time they come, they are ready to go out.. see the sites.. eat and drink. of course they are on VACATION.. Key Word.. THEY... are on Vacation.. but.. often they will say.. oh don't behave while we are here.. you can behave after we leave..
Ok.. that sounds good.. then after they leave.. 2 weeks later another group arrives.. and here I go again.
So my new plan is to conquer the EVM and set a routine and eating plan for myself that I can stick with while I have visitors.
Keys
1.. Don't tell anyone.. just do it.. they will lovely try and talk you out of it.. perhaps because they don't want to and they feel guilty.. who knows but I am going to keep it to myself.
2. Plan ahead. Have all the food in the fridge that I need to eat on my plan .. precooked so when they want to eat I have mine and I am still happy to make whatever they want but I will stick to mine.
3. Stop the alcohol (this is a tough one) Visitors are in party mood and want to drink.. So I plan to start with a lot of water followed by perhaps one glass of wine or champagne and then.. back to water. I'm hoping they will not notice and there will be more for them so they should be happy.
Thats it for now.. if you have any other suggestions.. bring them on..
happy and a bit too HIPPY at the moment in South Africa.
ExpatDiva

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  • jmht345
    jmht345 Posts: 189 Member
    Great idea for a group! This is exactly what I need. I am in West Africa. We tend to eat seasonally wherever we are, and we're almost to mango season here! Finally! It is a foreign concept to most people that you have to wait for a specific month or time of year to get the veggies or fruit you want and eat whatever is available the rest of the time!

    Looking forward to some interesting discussions and perspectives from people all over!
  • I love this group! I'm not currently an Expat :( but I used to live in Peru and I try to spend a little time there each year. When I was there I lost 50lbs so easily, it was just my life to be active. Now that I have been back in the states I've put on about 10lbs of that weight and still have a ways to go. I might be more motivated if I still had the Peruvians telling me I was fat everyday LOL.
  • Xiaolongbao
    Xiaolongbao Posts: 854 Member
    Fun group idea!

    I'm also a long term expat. I've been in Bulgaria about 6 months now. I came from Japan - it's been a big change (obviously!) but I'm loving it so far. So far I must say people aren't lining up to visit like they did with Tokyo so maybe I can offer a simpler solution to your problem - just move to Eastern Europe :-)
  • SaintGiff
    SaintGiff Posts: 3,679 Member
    American for the first 38 years of my life. Been in Canada for the last 8. Hardly as interesting as most folks, as the language is still the same. Still, I have to admit that the difference in culture is much greater than I expected.
  • waterwing
    waterwing Posts: 214 Member
    Helllooooo! I am currently living in Japan, was in Germany and Indonesia prior to this experience. I actually know Xialongbao in real life! :) Anyway this is a great life .. lots of ups and downs but I do enjoy getting to know a new country and seeing and living in different parts of the world.
  • camtosh
    camtosh Posts: 898 Member
    Hi from Tokyo! I am Canadian, but have lived away from Canada since I was 25 -- being 56 now, that is more than half my life away from my home country. Mostly have lived in Japan, married to a Japanese man, but we lived in the States for 9 years about 20 years ago. Look forward to talking about cultural differences here! Esp. in regards to food and health.
  • garyandkimber
    garyandkimber Posts: 156 Member
    American living in Russia for a little more than 5 years now. :smile:

    We actually probably eat a bit healthier here than in the States because, frankly, convenience foods are just so convenient there. :wink: Here we do a lot more cooking from scratch. On the other hand, estimating calories is sometimes difficult, and the cultural requirement of having tea + whatever anytime you visit someone or someone visits you can really add on the calories.

    I'm curious to hear others' tips about healthy eating. What do you do to stay on track?
  • paddydaddyo
    paddydaddyo Posts: 11 Member
    Great to see my group idea was a good one! Welcome aboard everybody!
  • wendybirdgirl
    wendybirdgirl Posts: 52 Member
    Hey everyone! I am an American woman living in Thailand. I have lived overseas on and off for 17 years. However, for the next 6 months, I am in the USA on sabbatical. Since I am in the USA, I thought I better do a Dr. visit, just to get in a good check-up. I got the shock of my life on the scale!!!! And then I was told that my blood pressure is a little high.

    I tend to avoid going to the Dr. in Thailand, unless I am very sick. The verdict is that I need to lose 30 pounds, and reduce salt.

    While I am in the USA, I am traveling frequently, so find it difficult to maintain a healthy diet (I get taken out to eat a lot) and stick to an exercise routine.

    It is such a pleasure to read about all of you expats, I look forward to visiting this group often!
  • wendybirdgirl
    wendybirdgirl Posts: 52 Member
    Hey diva!

    I like your post and really identify with it. I am really going to try some of your ideas. a) plan ahead b) one drink and plenty of water.

    Thanks!
  • ExpatDiva
    ExpatDiva Posts: 5 Member
    Hey There,
    I completely understand the waiting for certain veggies and fruits. However, I tend to look at is a positive.. always looking forward to the next season and with it will bring. Life will always be challenging no matter where we are making those healthy choices. I love this site, I have learned so much about what I really thought was good and now know it was taking me way over my limit. I don't deny myself I just don't have as much..
    I love South Africa so much, what a beautiful continent and amazing place to live. I hope you too are enjoying it..
    B
  • ExpatDiva
    ExpatDiva Posts: 5 Member
    Oh My Word I can really relate to that. I used to live in Buenos Aires and at that time I was at least 20 lbs lighter than now. I remember going into stores and the ladies just wagging their fingers at me and making this funny clicking sounds as to say.. Sorry don't even think of coming in here we have nothing for you.. I am 5ft 11in. and that really was over the top for most of them..
    It was difficult but soon I just got over it, but it did keep me more in check of my weight.
    Then move on to places like Cairo where everyone is covered up and who knows what they really look like under those tarps.. (sorry not PC) Then you feel really skinning and begin to eat everything and not worry.. Now I am back to a normal reality... MY reality, I don't care about what the "weight culture" is around me.. I need to be happy with my own body as what it is meant to be for ME..
    Enjoy the life..
  • ExpatDiva
    ExpatDiva Posts: 5 Member
    Hey Paddy Daddy.
    love the group.. great idea. Loving my kindred spirits..
    It is so nice to communicate with others doing what you do and having an understanding for the challenges as well as the unending positive side of expat life.
    As I already mentioned to one of the ladies, what I deal with most in regards to my weight is.... "Eternal Vacation Syndrome" Yep tough life right?
    But honestly, I tend to move about every 3 to 5 years, so party in and party out, not to mention all those in between.
    Then every new location becomes a target destination for all those near and dear to my heart.. which of course I love but.. THEY are on vacation so of course I AM too...
    Each visitor tends to want me to indulge with them saying.. "oh don't diet now we're on vacation" NO.. YOU'RE on vacation I'm just at the site of your location..
    I finally came to this realization after over 20 years of living abroad.. and 30 lbs heavier than I want to be. (slow learner)
    I have a new plan now, that I will be testing in the next 10 days as group #4 comes to visit after only being her for 10 months..
    I'll keep you posted how it goes.. I will need some strong will power but at least I started this system before they arrive and have lost 3.5 kilos since I started but need to lose 8 more kilos (or 16 lbs). Wish me luck and thank for the EXPAT support. LOVE IT
  • wendybirdgirl
    wendybirdgirl Posts: 52 Member
    In Thailand the women tend to be quite thin and beautiful. I try not to compare, but sometimes it really bums me out.
  • Fordito
    Fordito Posts: 7 Member
    Hello everyone! I'm new to the group and to MyFitnessPal. I'm an American Expat living in Jakarta, Indonesia for the past 4+ years. I can relate to the difficulties of finding foods from home. In particular, some seasonings are hard to find here. Great advice, ExpatDiva! I would only add that not eating meals after a certain hour also helps. For me the cutoff is 7pm. Good luck everyone!
  • GeorgiePie88
    GeorgiePie88 Posts: 54 Member
    Hey everyone! Great idea for a group.

    I was born and raised in Canada, but have been an expat in South Korea and more recently, an immigrant to New Zealand.

    I moved to Korea to teach English when I was 23. There I lived for two years and met my Kiwi husband, who was also a teacher. We moved to New Zealand after Korea, and I have been living here ever since! I plan to stay in New Zealand long-term. Might go back to Canada eventually, but life is good currently where I am.

    I had the biggest successes with losing weight in Korea. The weight just seemed to melt off there with little effort. That being said, I had just graduated from university and gained 30 lbs during my time at school due to stress. I experienced very little stress in Korea because I was happy teaching, didn't have to study, and met a wonderful group of fellow expats who quickly became like family. I think a combination of my newly-found happiness and a bunch of other things (like new diet and a more active lifestyle) heped me lose weight. The Korean diet is mainly rice, veggies, and meat/fish with kimchi at every meal. Whenever I did eat Western food, the portions were much smaller than I was used to back at home. Plus, Western food in Korea isn't that tasty - most stuff came with way too much mayonaisse and mustard (overloading condiments seems to be a thing on Korean pizza and burgers). By the end of my two-year stint, I had lost the 30lbs I gained in school and looked amazing.

    Since being in New Zealand, I have had harder time losing weight. I think re-introducing the Western diet had a lot to play. Also being newly-wedded and putting on that married-life weight! Food here is better quality and the portion sizes at restaurants are smaller than back in Canada. I'm also getting used to dealing with a large seasonal aspect to eating - often you can only get certain fruits and veggies when they're in season.

    Whenever I go back home, I tend to pack on the pounds. It could largely be due to comfort eating, but also due the fact that portion sizes in Canada are larger. I also find food back in Canada to be incredibly salty. Most people I know who aren't Canadian feel the same way when they come to Canada. However, fruits and veggies are also much cheaper back at home. So if you're on a diet, it's more affordable.