Fueling for Long Runs?

jessmastrilli
jessmastrilli Posts: 203 Member
How do you fuel for your long runs? Do you like to eat a balanced breakfast (eggs, bagel, etc) or keep it small and simple? In the past, I've gone on an empty stomach and used Gels throughout, but realized that I would feel fatigued after a few miles. So now i'm playing around with eating eggs before hand. Just wanting to get some ideas on how you guys fuel for your long runs.

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  • amandalj
    amandalj Posts: 28 Member
    I like to eat oatmeal (I just use the instant) before my long run, and gels along the way. The oatmeal sits well in my stomach and doesn't cause any unpleasant side effects like burping, cramping, etc. As much as I love peanut butter it sits like a brick when I run and causes some discomfort.
  • lorierin22
    lorierin22 Posts: 432 Member
    I never eat before long runs because I would have to wake up too early...usually just roll out of bed for my 5:30am runs. But...I used to not eat before races--any race, 5k, half, whatever. I would eat clif shot blocks or gu chomps. For my last few races, I started eating half of a piece of peanut butter toast and I felt better and was faster. My stomach held up fairly well with that mix of protein and carbs. Good luck! :)

    ETA: I don't use much peanut butter...maybe half a tbs, and spread it on thinly...maybe that is why I can handle it. Or maybe I have a gut of steel...lol!
  • capperboy
    capperboy Posts: 99 Member
    I carbo load the day before, on the day I go with oatmeal and possible a breakfast muffin.
    You need to intake fibre as you don't want to be carrying around the carbo load from the previous day.
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    For my normal mid-week runs I'll usually run fasted (a couple of cups of coffee & out the door) as I tend to eat about 55-60% of my calories from carbs.

    For my longer Sunday runs (anything over 90 minutes or so) I'll have a banana and toast & peanut butter a couple of hours before heading out.

    I'd probably avoid something like eggs until after my run; they're high in protein which is great but offers very little benefit as a pre-run snack (you want energy that's available fairly quickly).
  • tfonz10
    tfonz10 Posts: 52 Member
    My breakfast staple before a long run is peanut butter/bananna on rice cakes or ezekial bread. Otherwise I get too hungry and do not run well. I will usually bring a gu and a larabar, depending on how long I am going.
  • saskie78
    saskie78 Posts: 237 Member
    Peanut butter and jam (sometimes sprinkled with chia) on an english muffin or ezekiel bread before runs longer than 10 miles. Nothing otherwise.
  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    Porridge with nuts and honey with an apple or a couple of slices of wholemeal toast with banana up to an hour before going out. At least one coffee.
  • DymonNdaRgh40
    DymonNdaRgh40 Posts: 661 Member
    On the weekends when I normally do my long runs I run fasted. Occassionally I will have some carbs the night before. I don't do gels or any of that other stuff and I can't run on a full stomach.

    I tend to eat low carb. Lately because of my schedule I've been doing my long runs during the week. So usually I'll have a few extra carbs on those days. For example, for breakfast I'll have either oatmeal, bagel, or muffin for breakfast. Usually for lunch I stick to protein and veggies but I'll have another carb in the form of rice, pasta, or more bread.
  • tegalicious
    tegalicious Posts: 629
    Before my Saturday long run, I eat a banana and some pb2 and a piece of chocolate about 30-60 minutes before I leave. The chocolate might not sit well with everyone but I kind of like it for morale purposes :). Then I have about a third of a gu gel an hour in and then another third of the gu gel every thirty minutes after. I run slowly and am only up to 12 miles for my longest run so that one gu gel got me through the whole 12 miles. Then when I get back I treat myself to a chocolate gu gel. Those things are like frosting in a tube!!
  • jessmastrilli
    jessmastrilli Posts: 203 Member
    Great tips guys! I will play around with my eating on the weekends and see what stuff gives me energy and what gives me trouble. I have my second half marathon in 10-11 weeks and I would like to know by then what type of fuel is best for my body. Really appreciate all your feedback! :)
  • athensguy
    athensguy Posts: 550
    Up to 15 or so I run without eating anything first. Over that, I'll have a serving of oatmeal and half a serving of dried sweetened cranberries. Before a half marathon or longer I'll eat more than that.
  • CarsonRuns
    CarsonRuns Posts: 3,039 Member
    I never eat before a training run and never fuel during a training run (the exception being 1 or 2 long runs during a marathon cycle to test out the fuel source I will use in a race).

    This past weekend, I did 20 miles with 4 at marathon pace (low 7s) and didn't fuel a bit.
  • michable
    michable Posts: 312 Member
    I have only started doing long(ish) runs the last month or so: 90 - 100 min; 110 min coming up this Saturday. I have been experimenting with different foods before I go out. I have done 2 pieces of toast (white bread) with honey and cup of tea maybe 15-30 mins before I go out, and this sits fine. I have also done banana with a few nuts and chobani yogurt with no probs either.

    I always eat half a banana or piece of toast and honey, and have a cup of tea before training runs.
  • UrbanRunner81
    UrbanRunner81 Posts: 1,207 Member
    I eat cereal and have coffee before runs.

    I fuel with half package of honey stingers every 6 miles or so.
  • 99clmsntgr
    99clmsntgr Posts: 777 Member
    Long runs are first thing in the morning for me. If I eat anything I'll have just a banana, nothing too heavy. Usually I skip the food and take scoop of pre-workout mix (think 1.M.R. or C4) then bring a Gu or two with me for the run. This past week I hit the Gu @ 4.5 and 9 miles during my 13 mile run (which mimics my race fueling).
  • CathOh
    CathOh Posts: 72 Member
    I don't fuel specifically for weekday training runs (they're almost always at about 8 pm, and I eat regularly throughout the day). Before my long runs, I have oatmeal and coffee about 1.5-2 hrs before. I don't fuel during any training/ event that is less than 3 hours.
  • ibleedunionblue
    ibleedunionblue Posts: 324 Member
    My go to breakfast for morning long runs is oatmeal. For evening long runs, I just eat a light dinner.
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
    I'll eat something filling before bed, and top off again in the morning with something light, like a bagel thin, banana, oatmeal, yogurt. No more than 150cals.
  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
    I try to eat a lot the day before so I still have gas in the tank. Pre-run is usually a banana and peanut butter, half of a Think Thin bar or sometimes nothing. I don't generally fuel during my runs, but I do carry a pack of gummie candies or jelly beans just in case I really need them.
  • Linli_Anne
    Linli_Anne Posts: 1,360 Member
    I've done all kinds of experimenting. I find that my runs tend to go better when I have something a bit more substantial - like a bagel with a small amount of PB and a banana.

    Cold cereals with milk make me feel worse - I get too hangry.

    Anything less than 12 miles I don't bother to fuel during my run. When I am doing 13+ miles I'll cut up a Vector Energy bar into about 6 squares and pop 1 or 2 squares on uneven miles starting at Mile 9.

    Part of me is of the thought that if I train with it, my body will come to expect it, and then I'm not sure I'll be able to rely on that source when I really need it in a race, so, I use them sparingly...not every run. But, that could just be a mental thing.
  • KeithAngilly
    KeithAngilly Posts: 575 Member
    For my normal mid-week runs I'll usually run fasted (a couple of cups of coffee & out the door) as I tend to eat about 55-60% of my calories from carbs.

    For my longer Sunday runs (anything over 90 minutes or so) I'll have a banana and toast & peanut butter a couple of hours before heading out.

    I'd probably avoid something like eggs until after my run; they're high in protein which is great but offers very little benefit as a pre-run snack (you want energy that's available fairly quickly).

    This exactly what I do, except I have a bagel with pb, instead of toast. For Sunday long runs, I'll bring along a few gels for runs over about 2 or so hours. At my pace, that's about 15 miles. I don't run LSD, and I am on deficit, calorie-wise, so it's always a fine line when the time on the road gets longer. There may be time I can run 20 miles with fuel or water. But, that time is not now. For my last 20, I had a gel right before I went out, and then one every 4 miles. That worked pretty well, but that's also a lot of gels! It's was good race practice though, and I had a variety of them, to see if any would bother my stomach. As a newbie runner, it seems pretty reasonable to makes sure the runs are completed and then worry later about running with no fuel. My experience so far is that the distance run without carbs does become greater without really trying. The body just adapts. :smile:
  • CarsonRuns
    CarsonRuns Posts: 3,039 Member
    Part of me is of the thought that if I train with it, my body will come to expect it, and then I'm not sure I'll be able to rely on that source when I really need it in a race, so, I use them sparingly...not every run. But, that could just be a mental thing.

    Nope, not a mental thing. There is science behind it. It's called Deprivation Training.
  • ATT949
    ATT949 Posts: 1,245 Member
    Great tips guys! I will play around with my eating on the weekends and see what stuff gives me energy and what gives me trouble. I have my second half marathon in 10-11 weeks and I would like to know by then what type of fuel is best for my body. Really appreciate all your feedback! :)

    My longest training run has only been 14 miles and with a diet that is 60% carbs, I've got plenty of fuel to cover that distance.
    There are interesting discussions about "training low, race high" meaning that you should run your training long runs in a fasted state but race with lots of carbs.
    The best single source of advice that I have found is Matt Fitzgerald's book on nutrition for the half marathon and marathon. In addition to information about carbs, Fitzgerald clearly lays out what's needed to fuel for a half marathon (not much) but he also discusses other items that we can use to improve performance including timing and dosage of caffeine, the value of beetroot juice, and a few other items. That book is well worsted $12 or so for the Kindle edition.

    Dr. Noakes, in his book "The Lore of Running" states that we do best when we ingest 60 g of carbs per hour so, during a race, I'll make sure that I'm bringing in some carbs to augment a three-day carbo load of 70% carbs all of which is low in fiber, which humans cannot digest.

    Another valuable source is energy gel central.com. I've used their energy gel mix, which is very easy to prepare, and use that for long runs early in the morning when I don't have time to eat breakfast.

    Apologies for dictation induced typos…
  • eldamiano
    eldamiano Posts: 2,667 Member
    All depends on how far your 'long run' is, but generally, I will start fuelling at least the day before. Every time I have a race of 10k+, I will always have a big load of carbs the night before - pasta, pizza, bread.

    Then in the morning, I have porridge, a protein bar/flapjack, milk and a banana, maybe something additional.
  • sjohnny
    sjohnny Posts: 56,142 Member
    I don't eat before long runs and I don't take gels or sandwiches or anything with me on long runs. My longest so far has been 16 miles and that's totally fasted. During my last half I took a gu every 45 minutes and gatorade at every water stop (except I took water at the water stops where I took a gu). But I'm also a proponent of making training more difficult so that you actually get a boost from "something new" during the race that your body hasn't come to rely on.
  • SillyC2
    SillyC2 Posts: 275 Member
    For under 15 miles, I'll have a bowl of cereal and a cup of coffee before leaving. And I'll take about 2 cookies with me.
  • sarahc001
    sarahc001 Posts: 477 Member
    I do most runs fasted, up to about 20-24mi. It was difficult when I first started, but I have adapted. For a while at the beginning I used BCAA's to reduce protein and muscle breakdown (Scivation Xtend.) However I haven't done this for the past year or so. When I do 50k training runs I will train using the fuel I plan to use while racing, particularly if I plan to try anything new. So far my favorite pre-ultra (race) breakfast is peanut butter on pumpkin bread. I make my own gel from honey, a little water, and crystallized ginger- it keeps my stomach happy.I put it in a gotoob, which is a 3oz food grade travel bottle. I figure that if I adapt to more difficult conditions in training (whether fueling, weather, etc.) I feel that it is mentally "easier" come race day.