What's the controversy about 1200 calories?

logg1e
logg1e Posts: 1,208 Member
So, I joined MFP, put my stats in and went for a reasonable 1.5lb weight loss a week, understanding that 2lb is considered a reasonable aim.

Then I join the forums and read a lot of disparaging remarks (to put it nicely) about people who eat at 1200 calories. Can anyone shed any light on the contradiction here?

(For the record I'm struggling on 1200 so doing exercise to be able to afford a little chocolate each day).

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  • MissB46
    MissB46 Posts: 143 Member
    I eat about 1600 cals per day (give or take) which is working for me but I also train about 5-6 days per week including heavy weights and I am losing weight, I am a firm believer that a good healthy, well balanced diet goes together hand in hand with exercise & I really think I would struggle on 1200 cals as I would be constantly ravenous....and maybe you'd be more inclined to cheat and pig out if you only eat 1200....?
  • So, I joined MFP, put my stats in and went for a reasonable 1.5lb weight loss a week, understanding that 2lb is considered a reasonable aim.

    Then I join the forums and read a lot of disparaging remarks (to put it nicely) about people who eat at 1200 calories. Can anyone shed any light on the contradiction here?

    (For the record I'm struggling on 1200 so doing exercise to be able to afford a little chocolate each day).

    I think it's because 1200 a day is under the daily amount your body NEEDS just to function, so eating less than this is dangerous for your body as it won't have the fuel necessary to function properly. I'm no expert though
  • ianthy
    ianthy Posts: 405 Member
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1188055-1200-cal-a-day-diets-uk-friends

    Hi check out the link above as there is a discussion running in Team UK on 1200 cals per day.
  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    Broadly there is a lower threshold that your system needs to sustain normal function, while that varies according to age, gender, general build etc the recommended minimum by various national health agencies is somewhere between 1200 and 1400 calories for women, and generally between 1400 and 1600 for men. That's seen as the level at which the body can function.

    As an individual tries to lose weight by restricting calorie intake the loss will come from a combination of fat, muscle and organ tissue. The body uses the calories eaten to function on a day to day basis, and to regenerate tissue. If the intake is too low then the tissue isn't regenerated. Further to that the body will consume energy in the form that it most easily has access to, so muscle tissue and organ tissue are preferred sources of fuel, with fat actually being harder for the body to consume as fuel.

    Clearly that's not going to happen overnight, but an intake lower than the level required to sustain function is going to cause damage in the long term.

    That's one of the reasons for some form of resistance training, and some form of cardiovascular training in your programme. The resistance training causes the system to retain lean muscle mass, and the CV training improves your bodies ability to convert fuel. Both together encourage the weight loss to be fat, rather than muscle and organ tissue.

    My experience, about this time last year, was that I set my goal at 1600 per day, and I really struggled with it. I found that I was so underfuelled I was struggling at work, had no energy and my training wasn't particularly high quality. Given the problems I was having my loss plateaued, I was so tired I'd dropped from being lightly active to being almost completely sedentary I reset my goals to give me 1900 per day and it helped me a lot. clearly an N=1 sample size doesn't tell you much, but by being more realistic about my loss goals I was more successful. Mind you, at the same time I stopped using the scale as a measure of success, I now track resting heart rate, running performance and bodyfat percentage as metrics, noting that my bf% has reduced significantly.
  • logg1e
    logg1e Posts: 1,208 Member
    Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I understand the principles of energy in, energy out etc. I am curious as to why MFP sets a figure which then causes so much controversy in the forums. Is it just that MFP is setting too low a figure, and if so, why would they not rectify the mistake?
  • logg1e
    logg1e Posts: 1,208 Member
    Thanks for the link Ianthy, I recognise that so it must have been one I was reading up on since I joined.
  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
    Sorry, I wasn't very clear. I understand the principles of energy in, energy out etc. I am curious as to why MFP sets a figure which then causes so much controversy in the forums. Is it just that MFP is setting too low a figure, and if so, why would they not rectify the mistake?

    As I understand it 1200 is the minimum figure that MFP will offer as it's the lower end of the recommended intake.

    What tends to happen is a lot of "I can't eat 1200 cals" threads or "Is it safe to eat 1200 cals and pootle along on an elliptihell for three hours a day" threads. The originators then get all defensive.

    What doesn't help is the bland but meaningless in context response of "do you weight everything", so threads descend into two different conversations, neither of which really address the original question.

    I don't think it would make any difference if it was limited to 1250 or 1300.
  • logg1e
    logg1e Posts: 1,208 Member
    Thank you Meandering, that seems very sensible.