Food Addiction - Article for Discussion

julieworley376
julieworley376 Posts: 444 Member
What started off this idea was Karen giving me a link on another thread but it was too long for me - sorry Karen. I found this one on food cravings engineered by the food industry. To me it's an eye opener and says to me, you are not hopeless and helpless and your obesity isn't simply greed, lack of self control, discipline, whatever. I believe some people are more vulnerable to food addiction than others. Please read and comment, let's have a discussion.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/food-cravings-engineered-by-industry-1.1395225

I would not claim to be eating 'clean' or paleo by any means but what I am doing is shopping the periphery of the grocery store and working on sticking to simple foods not processed. Processed I do eat tends to be pasta, rice, cereal, light breads and muffins, canned fish, that kind of thing.

Doing this, one thing really hit me.. wow.. do we really need all this food? I look at all the stuff that I don't buy and I am astonished to see so much choice in so many things.. things that I now mainly live without.. and I am living very well thank you. It is honestly bewildering. It isn't just the selection but the pure choice in flavors of chips, cookies, crackers, everything! Plus now I have been watching my sodium level so closely there is sodium in everything too! It was particularly interesting to see in this article how they put a lot of salt in some things because they would be plain unpalatable and some things pretty disgusting without.

Really interesting.

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  • idlehands79
    idlehands79 Posts: 37
    I am not surprised, we're driven by the idea of making money at all costs. It's behind everything in this country. I'll definitely read the article, I've read things like this before and it's sad and scary.
  • AwesomeGuy37
    AwesomeGuy37 Posts: 436 Member
    Hoping that people here will keep binge eating disorder and food addictions separate. People who binge eat are not necessarily food addicts. Same with the binge drinkers, who are not all alcoholics.
    I seriously think if people avoid the addictive foods, they won't be addicted to them. Binge eating is another matter altogether.
    I've mentioned bliss point before.
  • julieworley376
    julieworley376 Posts: 444 Member
    AwesomeGuy that is a really interesting point. And raises another question for me.. do we binge eat because we are addicted? Does anyone binge on salad? Carrots? Bliss point was a new one on me.
  • idlehands79
    idlehands79 Posts: 37
    I come from a family full of addicts: alcohol, illegal drugs, smoking, you name it. I think some of us are predisposed for that sort of personality. I found that I struggle with moderation of things I enjoy. For example, I never smoked and I can take or leave booze but put a plate of cookies in front of me or a computer and I'll eat them all and play games for 8 hours. I'm not sure if it's addiction but I find myself thinking about food and/or games during the day rather than work or about other things I need to do.
  • AwesomeGuy37
    AwesomeGuy37 Posts: 436 Member
    AwesomeGuy that is a really interesting point. And raises another question for me.. do we binge eat because we are addicted? Does anyone binge on salad? Carrots? Bliss point was a new one on me.

    I'd like to use the term "overeat" instead of "binge" to avoid confusion between binge eating disorders and addiction.
    Addictive foods are easily overeaten. I would avoid them at all costs if trying to not overeat. It is really easy to drink too many calories.

    Binge eating disorders (BED) are for self harm, so carrots are pointless. I used to have a BED, and would eat entire loaves of white bread with butter or cheese. I can't go around saying that the butter sandwiches were addictive. I had a mental problem I had to deal with. I lost a lot of weight in the past and regained 100 lb. in 5 months because I didn't deal with my emotional eating.

    Edit to add: It makes me want to ask if anyone is addicted to having that "full" feeling. I really like feeling full. These days I'm not craving certain foods or emotionally eating, but still have not overcome wanting that full feeling when I eat. Not sure if it is just human or a problem.
  • scubasuenc
    scubasuenc Posts: 626 Member
    It is not surprising that companies engineer their foods to be more appealing and make us want more. That is no different than any other product manufacturer wanting us to choose their product over the competition's. We as consumers need to educate ourselves on what best meets our nutritional needs.

    I over ate and I ate emotionally, but I never binged to the point of feeling ill. I think many of us learn to stop listening to our bodies and ignore the cues that we are full and satisfied. That is made worse when we eat foods that are designed to minimize those signals. For some those foods also trigger chemical reactions in the brain similar to a drug addict's.

    For someone who has that bio-chemical addiction element, I can see the need to give up those foods entirely. Others might not need to take such a drastic step. I have been avoiding those foods just because it is hard to stay within my calorie goals and meet my macro goals while eating those nutritionally empty foods. Even when I get to maintenance that will still be the case. I have no intention of every purchasing those type of foods for my home again. However that doesn't mean I won't have them when I'm out in a small, controlled portion.

    The critical step for me is to learn to recognize when I am hungry and when I am full. I want to eat because I'm hungry, not because I'm angry, or bored, or sad or for any other reason. And I want to stop when I'm full, not because the plate is empty.
  • blondageh
    blondageh Posts: 923 Member
    Then I am a binge eater too. I can match your loaf of bread and raise you a pack of bagels! Plain, don't even have to cook 'em! (Takes too long) I binge at night because I used to get so anxious I needed that stuffed feeling to go to sleep. Then sleep for an hour or two and start all over again..and again and again. Has to be carbs though. I am a binge drinker too. Once I start, it is hard to stop.
  • KarenZen
    KarenZen Posts: 1,430 Member
    AwesomeGuy that is a really interesting point. And raises another question for me.. do we binge eat because we are addicted? Does anyone binge on salad? Carrots? Bliss point was a new one on me.

    Julie, I think the two are related. From what I understand, a salad binge wouldn't have the same effect as a chocolate or bread binge because the limbic brain is stimulated by fat, sugar, and salt to trigger the release of dopamine. So the addiction is actually not to the taste of the food (because who tastes anything when you're in a binge?) but to the release of dopamine that the food triggers.
  • KarenZen
    KarenZen Posts: 1,430 Member
    Then I am a binge eater too. I can match your loaf of bread and raise you a pack of bagels! Plain, don't even have to cook 'em! (Takes too long) I binge at night because I used to get so anxious I needed that stuffed feeling to go to sleep. Then sleep for an hour or two and start all over again..and again and again. Has to be carbs though. I am a binge drinker too. Once I start, it is hard to stop.

    I am the same way about feeling full! I've been reading some new studies about this, and the role of glucagon in stopping the production of appetite stimulating hormones like ghrelin. Here's an easy read article on the subject.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2398172/Obese-people-arent-greedy--misfiring-hormones-mean-feel-eating.html
  • Sandyslosenit
    Sandyslosenit Posts: 322 Member
    Edit to add: It makes me want to ask if anyone is addicted to having that "full" feeling. I really like feeling full. These days I'm not craving certain foods or emotionally eating, but still have not overcome wanting that full feeling when I eat. Not sure if it is just human or a problem.
    THIS, THIS, THIS - I have even said it a lot but I never thought it was a problem till this moment!!! All my life I pick the biggest items so I will fill full. I looove "Reese Cups", but I hardly ever buy them - Their to small. I will pick the biggest thing I can find for the same amount of money. A lot of time I have a craving for something, but buy something else because its more filling. The whole time I'm eating it, I'm thinking about the other item and how good it would have been. BUT do I stop " NO! " I have repeated this pattern my whole life and never acknowledged it. I don't like to feel hungry, I eat every 3-4 hrs. Ya, I'm thinking this might be a problem.
    Blessings
  • julieworley376
    julieworley376 Posts: 444 Member
    Maybe that is why I love lunch so much.. I will eat a big salad, an avocado, a sandwich and grapes.. that's a LOT of bulk. I feel full but in a good way.. not in a nausea, acidy.. omg I ate too much way. If you know what I mean.