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ElvisBaby88
ElvisBaby88 Posts: 161 Member
Hello! I am 9 months into my gluten free lifestyle...per doctor's orders. I was recently glutened and the awful effects lasted 1+week! Is this normal?! I am going for another check up at the end of May but I was just curious if anyone else suffered for that long?! I have had chronic constipation/ibs & gerd my whole life and eating gluten free has 100% eliminated all of my pain and suffering however since my episode it has taken my gut/digestive track a long time to 'feel better'! Does anyone else experience this?! Thanks!

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  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
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    Hello! I am 9 months into my gluten free lifestyle...per doctor's orders. I was recently glutened and the awful effects lasted 1+week! Is this normal?! I am going for another check up at the end of May but I was just curious if anyone else suffered for that long?! I have had chronic constipation/ibs & gerd my whole life and eating gluten free has 100% eliminated all of my pain and suffering however since my episode it has taken my gut/digestive track a long time to 'feel better'! Does anyone else experience this?! Thanks!

    You better believe it... my gastrointestinal symptoms last a few days, but my joint pain and fatigue last for a week or a bit longer. Asthma, not so long, I just take the Ventolin if I need it. It is not uncommon for the bad effects to last quite a while, and it can take up to a couple of years (without being inadvertently glutened) for your villi to heal. You need to take it very seriously, don't take any chances as it can affect serious disease processes in your whole body.
  • fattybumclaire
    fattybumclaire Posts: 91 Member
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    Me too - tummy pain/diarrhoea for the first 48 hours plus brain fog, tiredness, low moods, joint pains and eyesight problems for a least a week afterwards. There are lots of self help remedies out there to help the tummy issues such as mint tea, charcoal etc but I haven't come across anything for the other side effectes yet. Good luck on your journey :)
  • ElvisBaby88
    ElvisBaby88 Posts: 161 Member
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    Thank you both for your replies! Makes me feel better knowing I am not alone and the side effects can last a while (which totally sucks)!
  • Flab2fitfi
    Flab2fitfi Posts: 1,349 Member
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    Made the mistake of having chinese last sunday and today is the first time my muscles have not felt like they have done a marathon before even leaving the house.

    My stomach is usally the first to clea up - normally 24/48 hours, then my asthma and lastly muscle/joint problems.
  • mommymilkies
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    Absolutely. Mine is more likely an allergy (I'm waiting to get into the allergist) but I get hives and my IBS symptoms come back full force with even slight exposure. The bloating and pain and hives can last 2 weeks or more.
  • patioq
    patioq Posts: 22 Member
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    Hello! I am 9 months into my gluten free lifestyle...per doctor's orders. I was recently glutened and the awful effects lasted 1+week! Is this normal?!

    awful effects, for me is gas/bloating and loose as a goose.

    I'm just coming out of denial and off gluten.
  • Sharon5913
    Sharon5913 Posts: 134 Member
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    I've been GF for more than 10 years, and the effects are awful. Vomiting and diarrhea, bone tired for a couple of days, then slowly start to come back. It's no fun at all.
  • WW_Jude_V2
    WW_Jude_V2 Posts: 209 Member
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    I've had to be 100% gluten free since December and the first time I accidentally ingested some the pain was so intense my boyfriend panicked and wanted desperately to call 911. It only took about a half hour from the time I ingested to the time of drastic effects. Cold sweats, nausea, excruciating stomach pain and back pain to start. Then trapped on the toilet for the next five hours promising anything to "the powers that be" if only the pain would stop. I worried that I would run out of the ability to cope before the pain ended.

    To clear all the agony (and that's truly what it is) took about half a day and then another few days before I felt like I might actually be okay again. It's exhausting.

    The second (and last) time was after I ate something that was labeled Gluten Free. I no longer trust ANYthing I don't make myself from fresh food. I suffered from this for over 4 decades before finding out the cause and there is no way I want to risk feeling the effects of eating gluten again if I can help it!
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
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    June 27 2014 article in Medscape re: Being Gluten-Free Linked to Less 'Brain Fog' in Celiac Study

    Following is quoted from Medscape in its entirety:

    A gluten-free diet was associated with improved cognitive performance that correlated with mucosal healing in a small pilot study of patients with celiac disease published online May 28 and in the July issue of Alimentary Pharmacology and Therapeutics.

    Irene T. Lichtwark, PhD student, School of Psychological Sciences, Monash University, Melbourne, Australia, and colleagues examined the connection among a gluten-free diet, celiac symptoms, and cognitive function among 11 newly diagnosed patients with celiac disease (8 women and 3 men) aged 22 to 39 years. The researchers tested patients for information-processing efficacy, memory, visuospatial ability, motor function, and attention before starting them on a gluten-free diet. The researchers tested patients again 12 weeks into the diet, and again after 1 year of adherence to the diet. The researchers conducted blood testing, intestinal permeability tests, and small bowel biopsies via gastroscopy at baseline, week 12, and week 52.

    All patients adhered to the gluten-free diet. Tissue transglutaminase antibody levels improved from a mean baseline of 58.4 to 16.8 U/mL at 52 weeks (P = .025), and Marsh scores improved significantly (P = 0.001, Friedman’s test). The patients demonstrated significant improvement in 4 of the cognitive tests, and improvements in scores for verbal fluency, attention, and motor function at 52 weeks correlated strongly with Marsh scores and tissue transglutaminase antibody level improvements (r = 0.377 - 0.735; all P < .05). The research uncovered no meaningful correlations for nutritional or biochemical markers or markers of intestinal permeability.

    "This study, while small in numbers, does provide objective evidence for the cognitive impairments associated with untreated coeliac disease," corresponding author Gregory W. Yelland, PhD, told Medscape Medical News. Dr. Yelland is from the Department of Gastroenterology, Central Clinical School, Monash University, The Alfred Hospital, Melbourne. "We would like to think that clinicians would use this to inform their patients of the cognitive risks of remaining untreated and of the benefits of adhering to a strict gluten-free diet for not only their physical [health,] but their mental health also."

    The study provides an "objective evaluation" of the cognitive impairment that frequently accompanies celiac disease, and confirms such symptoms with a gluten-free diet, Alessio Fasano, MD, author of the book Gluten Freedom, told Medscape Medical News. Dr. Fasano, who was not involved with the study, is a spokesperson for the American Gastroenterological Association and chief of pediatric gastroenterology and nutrition at Massachusetts General Hospital for Children in Boston. "We have this kind of evidence in clinic all the time, even with people who have other forms of gluten reaction. This connection between the gut and the brain, and how gluten can have something to do with it, going from headaches to foggy mind, is something we see over and over again. [Patients] claim they can't think straight any more or they can't remember. There is a veil on their brain that lifts when they go gluten-free," Dr. Fasano says.

    The study confirms that celiac disease is often accompanied by a kind of "brain fog," the study authors write. The authors say the level of cognitive impairment in their study group was roughly equivalent to the impairment of someone suffering severe jet lag or having a blood-alcohol level of 0.05 g/100 mL, which is the upper legal limit for drunken driving in Australia and many other countries. (The limit is 0.08 g/100 mL in the United States and Canada.)

    "If these findings are confirmed in a larger study, they may have important health and safety implications," the authors write. "When viewed together, the present results indicate that short-term memory, movement and processing speed are impaired in untreated [celiac disease,] and that they improve during adherence to a [gluten-free diet]."

    Although the study shows cognitive improvements with a gluten-free diet, Dr. Fasano notes that improvement among the study participants was not uniform. Although most patients generally improved in the first 12 weeks of the diet, the patients lost ground by 52 weeks. Performance usually remained better than at baseline, however. "There's a lot of variation," Dr. Fasano says. "Some got better. Some saw no change. Some got worse. All this is to say in celiac disease, each individual can take a different course. That's the beauty of statistics: It's teaching you the lesson that you can't make too much out of it when numbers are so limited."

    He concluded, "I believe this is a very provocative study, but we should think about this and really try to expand it with larger numbers."

    In addition to verifying the results in a larger trial, further research is required in other areas, Dr. Yelland said. "The 2 most important issues that now need to be addressed are (a) the mechanism by which celiac disease affects cognitive processing (b) and the extent to which changes in cognitive function reflect changes in intestinal health," Dr. Yelland told Medscape Medical News. "The latter is particularly important, for if cognitive performance can be used as a gauge of intestinal health, it may reduce the need for patients to undergo colonoscopies."

    The study was funded by the Coeliac Research Fund (Coeliac Australia). Two coauthors have published books on celiac disease and its dietary management, and another coauthor and Dr. Yellend are patent holders for the Subtle Cognitive Impairment Test. Dr. Fasano is also the author of a book on celiac disease and owns stock in Alba Therapeutics, which is working on a complementary therapeutic to the gluten-free diet.

    Aliment Pharmacol Ther. 2014;40:160-170. link here- http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/apt.12809/full
  • Soggynode
    Soggynode Posts: 1,179 Member
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    Good article, thanks for posting it @canadjineh. Hopefully I don't get bounced for thread hi-jacking but I wonder if in addition to the "foggy brain" mentioned in the article, extreme mood swings could also be caused by gluten. My wife was diagnosed as celicac about six years ago and my youngest daughter deemed just intolerant. I'm not gluten intolerant nor is my oldest daughter but it was not going work having a split dietary household so we all went GF.

    At the same time my oldest daughter was about 9 and experiencing wild mood swings - happy, sad, angry etc... We could not identify any external or internal stress inducers and were becoming very worried. Oddly enough not long after the gluten was out of her diet the wild mood swings suddenly stopped. I know they often remove gluten from the diets of autistic children but I do not know the reason. It would interesting to know if gluten affects the emotional as well as the cognitive side of the brain.

    Sorry for the thread hi-jack and in a weak attempt to keep me out of trouble with the OP... When my wife gets into gluten, her symptoms last for 2-3 days.
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
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    I wouldn't call it a thread hi-jack as I hate posting new threads all the time - it just gets crowded and confusing, so I find one that kind of fits the subject I'm posting about and just 'continue it...' I find it very interesting how the brain/gut connection works, and I wouldn't be surprised it is like that in your daughter's case. Glad she is doing better! I have a regular subscription to Medscape for certain subjects so every time there is a new study out, I get an email notice and go onsite to read it. Very useful.