Coffee question

garber6th
garber6th Posts: 1,890 Member
Those of you who are post-surgery and are drinking coffee again, do you count coffee towards your fluid intake for the day? I am just curious. I don't count coffee towards my fluid intake, just water or other non-caffeinated beverages.

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  • authorwriter
    authorwriter Posts: 323 Member
    I know this isn't your question, but I'm just gonna say it:

    1. Caffeine is a powerful appetite stimulant.
    2. Caffeine is a highly addictive substance.

    That's why we're so miserable while we go through withdrawal. I've gotten the monkey off my back a few times in my life, the most recent to get this surgery. Caffeine is in a lot of products, often ones we don't even realize so I have to keep reading labels.

    That said, I love coffee. I really do. And I want to drink it again. Just not for a while yet and not everyday, because I don't want to set up the twins monsters of appetite stimulation and cravings again.

    But if I did drink a cup of coffee. I would not include it in my fluids because it's also a diuretic. I mean, it's only like 6 to 8 ounces for a cup anyway.

    And, if it's acts like a diuretic, wouldn't it mess up other things in my body?
  • pawoodhull
    pawoodhull Posts: 1,759 Member
    My surgeon told me I could go back to regular coffee at my 3 month check up. The nutritionist was very clear that I could count no more than 1 cup as liquid. And I did for awhile. Now I count none because I was having a hard time getting in my water. And, because I can no longer drink it black, I get a stomach ache from plain coffee post surgery, I also count my creamer into my daily calorie intake, which also helps limit my coffee as I don't want to "waste" calories on something to drink.
  • garber6th
    garber6th Posts: 1,890 Member
    I also count my creamer into my daily calorie intake, which also helps limit my coffee as I don't want to "waste" calories on something to drink.

    I do the same! Sometimes I will drink decaf instead of regular, even though I can have regular. My surgeon told me to wait 6 months to have coffee, which I did. Fortunately I have been able to get in plenty of water, and coffee doesn't seem to affect my appetite at all (I still don't have an appetite 8 months out!)
  • kglowins
    kglowins Posts: 111 Member
    I drink decaf almost everyday, I do track it for nutritional purposes. However, I typically do not count it towards my fluid intake. If I order a decaf latte I do count the protein from the skim milk.
  • bikrchk
    bikrchk Posts: 516 Member
    I drink 1 kcup of regular almost every morning. Occasionally if I want another cup, it's decaf. I don't count it in my fluids unless its decaf. I struggle less with low blood pressure if I get more fluids and 1 cup of caffeine per day. I take pains to get no more caffeine than that. Funny, as high BP was one of my co-morbidities.
  • DJRonnieLINY
    DJRonnieLINY Posts: 475 Member
    I do not count the coffee towards my 8 cups (64oz) of fluid. In general I place all my measurements on the conservative side; if there are two choices in MFP I chose the higher calorie one (unless I have exact). When I weigh something I round up. Little adjustments like this add up and I believe have helped my have such a good success rate.
  • pawoodhull
    pawoodhull Posts: 1,759 Member
    I also count my creamer into my daily calorie intake, which also helps limit my coffee as I don't want to "waste" calories on something to drink.

    I do the same! Sometimes I will drink decaf instead of regular, even though I can have regular. My surgeon told me to wait 6 months to have coffee, which I did. Fortunately I have been able to get in plenty of water, and coffee doesn't seem to affect my appetite at all (I still don't have an appetite 8 months out!)

    Coffee hasn't affected my appetite either. In fact, on the weekends, I can very easily stretch out my max of 2 cups to an all morning event and totally forget to eat. :happy:
  • garber6th
    garber6th Posts: 1,890 Member
    I do not count the coffee towards my 8 cups (64oz) of fluid. In general I place all my measurements on the conservative side; if there are two choices in MFP I chose the higher calorie one (unless I have exact). When I weigh something I round up. Little adjustments like this add up and I believe have helped my have such a good success rate.

    I am with you, I tend to stay on the conservative side when measuring. I would rather err on the side of caution!
  • Thaeda
    Thaeda Posts: 834 Member
    I drink decaf. And I drink a LOT of coffee (I know decaf has some caffeine in it--- but a lot less than the regular kind). I do count my coffee as liquid intake because coffee is 99% water! Also, it is my understanding the diuretic effect is for caffeinated-- not decaf. I drink water, too though, so I do not think it is a big deal for me. Also, I do not count the cals in creamer -- I use very little and I was determined after having surgery to not get obsessive. :)
  • jkern9110
    jkern9110 Posts: 119 Member
    I will drink one cup of coffee a day during the week. I will only sometimes drink it on the weekend. I will include the one cup in my daily fluid goal. I carefully measure my creamer every time and include it in my daily calorie intake...twenty calories is still twenty calories. This helps me to not go back and get multiple cups. Yes, caffeine is a diurhetic, but I don't think that it causes me to crave things nor do I think it stimulates my appetite. But that is just me.
  • teachren
    teachren Posts: 78
    I have been happily drinking it for months. I have been drinking too much lately...so I'll have to cut back but I would on average have 2 cups a day. Lately some days 4.

    I use 5% creamer...and measure it out. That's just how I like it.

    I think coffee has been given a hard shake but I think recent studies suggest that coffee doesn't dehydrate you. That being said..I don' t count it towards my water...I only count water...I don't count any milk I drink, or Nestea Zero or tea. Just the plain ol' H2O.

    Now...the coffee has more of an effect on my sleep habits than anything else.

    ren
  • Mangopickle
    Mangopickle Posts: 1,509 Member
    I don't count caffeinated coffee. I count decaf, water, crystal lite and skim milk
  • pattycakes726
    pattycakes726 Posts: 348 Member
    I drink about 2 cups a day. My dietician gave me the okay after my 3 month check, although she frowns on it. I count the creamer in my calories but don't count it toward my liquids for the day.
  • sue100194
    sue100194 Posts: 129
    I'm still mostly drinking decaf too at 4 months out. Sometimes I have a small cup of regular but I haven't been counting that as liquid. And I usually only count about half of the decaf in my liquids, if any. Actually, I only include it if I'm running short in my liquid count for the day. It's an 'oh yeah, I had that coffee this morning' and add another few ounces to the tally :)
  • SibylDiane
    SibylDiane Posts: 177 Member
    I drink coffee every day and definitely count it towards my fluids. The idea that caffeine dehydrates you is a myth which has been disproven by lots of reliable scientific studies. It's mostly made of water -- the fact that the water has been pushed through ground coffee doesn't make it any less water.
    Besides, I've been drinking enough coffee for long enough and counting it towards my daily fluids that if somehow coffee wasn't a fluid, I actually would be dehydrated by now! But I am in great health and if anything over-hydrated according to my latest lab results.
  • MyOwnSunshine
    MyOwnSunshine Posts: 1,312 Member
    I would like to see the scientific evidence that coffee is a powerful appetite stimulant, because I dispute that fact. Coffee stimulates the sympathetic nervous system, therefore it actually decreases appetite.

    That being said, I was allowed to drink coffee 3 months post-op. I do not count it towards my fluid intake. Although it has a very small diuretic effect, this effect is not powerful enough to cause dehydration. It might negate the benefits of the actual fluid in the coffee, though.

    The danger with returning to a coffee habit is what you put in your coffee, and not the coffee itself. If you add milk, cream, sugar, etc., you are bumping up your calories with very little nutritional value.

    I have returned to drinking coffee. I divide my Premier Protein Shake into thirds every morning and drink 1/3 in a cup of coffee x3. I also add some sugar free Torani syrup. On the days that I work, I get a soy latte with sugar free syrup for my afternoon snack. It has a decent amount of protein for the calories.
  • authorwriter
    authorwriter Posts: 323 Member
    Okay, maybe it doesn't increase your appetite.

    You can google this in either direction and I'm not willing to get in a dispute over it.. If you're good with it, that's fine. It is addictive and can have a detrimental effect, so my post was only meant as cautionary. Once somebody gets rid of the monkey, just a caution of letting it take hold again.
  • DJRonnieLINY
    DJRonnieLINY Posts: 475 Member
    With respect to coffee: I code it into MFP using the "Tim Horton's" choice in MFP at 90 calorories for a 20 oz cup with cream. I use Splenda so there are no added calories. In the past I have scanned the creamer in and put the coffee at 0 but have found that it's just easier (and more conservative) to use the 90 calories per 20 oz cup choice. Numbers seem to be working for me.
  • DJRonnieLINY
    DJRonnieLINY Posts: 475 Member
    Along the same lines I have found that "Ensure Clear" is going to be my way to add fluid and calories during the summer. My baseline is now 2,200 calories plus exercise so I need to eat more which can be hard (30 minutes between to get fluids). Felt a bit fatigued last week which I attributed to fluid intake. The Ensure really helped.
  • pawoodhull
    pawoodhull Posts: 1,759 Member
    Okay, maybe it doesn't increase your appetite.

    You can google this in either direction and I'm not willing to get in a dispute over it.. If you're good with it, that's fine. It is addictive and can have a detrimental effect, so my post was only meant as cautionary. Once somebody gets rid of the monkey, just a caution of letting it take hold again.

    I have no clue about the appetite thing, but Authorwriter is correct in coffee's addictive properties. I am addicted. I know it, I admit it and I really don't care. There are many more things I could be addicted to that are much more harmful to me than coffee. :happy: