fat burning vs carb/glycogen

what923
what923 Posts: 100 Member
edited November 8 in Social Groups
I'm reading The big book of health & fitness by Philip Maffetone. I'm curious what other opinions/ideas runners have about training at much lower heart rates so that your body acclimates to burning fat for fuel? This is a stem off of all the reading I have been doing about lower carb diets. I used to carb load to fill my glycogen stores before a half marathon...so if I'm not loading but trained to burn fat for fuel....is that just as good? Should you do both presuming the body will burn the easy carbs first and then just flip over to fat mode? I have completed one full marathon and through proper training and fueling I never hit the infamous 'wall'.
Curious because I'm working on cleaning up my diet much more and many theories say less carbs (by way of breads/pastas, etc....would still get carbs from fruits, veggie & high quality grains).
Thanks for sharing any thoughts, advice or experience. Happy running!

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  • Jwildeboer
    Jwildeboer Posts: 85 Member
    Hello,

    Is your goal to burn fat or run the marathon faster/without hitting the wall?

    I can't speak as to target heart rates for different zones. I typically try to stick to the carbs/calories/etc intake as set on MFP goals. When I run, I run as if I'm training for a race, and not so much with target heart rates in mind for fat burning. Doing this, I find I still lose weight, in the form of fat (determined by a weight guru's scale, which I don't believe is most accurate, but at least the numbers move in that direction, and I figure that still means something).

    My only concern, if you are really cutting carbs, if you were to all of a sudden carbo load, if that would actually have negative effects on your energy level by race time.
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
    Long slow steady runs (at least 90 minutes worth of running at conversational pace) is what will train your fat burning engines. There is also some studies about running your LSD fasted that is supposed to help train your body to do this too. Google "train low race high".

    The point of training at lower heart rates (or slower paces) is that you are running and using energy where you are supplying enough oxygen to the muscle cells that need them to burn energy aerobically. You can only burn fat for energy when your muscle cells has enough oxygen. The faster you run, the more you force your body to burn fuel anaerobically, which means you are depending more on glycogen stores and glucose and less on fat.
  • what923
    what923 Posts: 100 Member
    Stoshew- thanks for the explanation and reminder. I never understood before that running could be anaerobic (seems like an oxymoron since you are breathing/cardio)...until my nutritionist explained it. But I think you put it in clearer terms!
    - A simple reminder for me should be when I run slow -my body can break down the slow energy (fat)...when I push to run fast my body has to break down the 'fast' easily quick accessible energy first.

    train, train, train....we are always learning :smile:
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
    edited January 2015
    If you run too fast, yes you are running anaerobically. The blood can deliver only so much oxygen to your cells. Your muscle cells can only absorb so much of this oxygen from the blood to burn fuel (look up running economy). If you run too hard, you are creating a demand for energy that your aerobic system cannot keep up with and you go beyond your aerobic threshold. You are also now producing more lactate and hydrogen ions which makes your blood acid levels rise which limits how far you can run (running beyond your lactate clearing threshold). Running slower (at conversational pace) allows you to run farther and longer.

    When you run at these slower speeds (70-80% of max heart rate) you will improve running economy by forcing the body to produce more hemoglobin (its what carries the oxygen from your lungs to muscle cells in your blood) and increases the amount of mitochondria in your muscle cells (its the oxygen burning part of your muscle cell). You can also make your heart stronger which delivers more blood per tick to your cells. All of this happens when you run at 70-80% of your max HR or conversational pace.
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