Hows everyone doing?

dan_IRL
dan_IRL Posts: 204 Member
edited November 8 in Social Groups
How's everyone doing? Are there any lurkers that are still in the early stages of New Direction?

I'm on week 3. I've been doing pretty good so far. I'm down 15.2 lbs so far. Physical hunger has not been an issue. I've been satisfied physically the whole time. It's the cravings for certain things that have been tough. I've been able to combat them thus far. (Minus a few pieces of halloween candy that is.)

I would love to hear from some others that are in my same early stages.
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  • Ladybug_Karen
    Ladybug_Karen Posts: 123 Member
    I'm not new but wanted to say hi. I hope you're doing well!!! :smiley:
  • dan_IRL
    dan_IRL Posts: 204 Member
    I'm doing pretty good. Still playing around with the flavors trying to find my favorites. I wish they had an option or two that were very minimally flavored. Everything I have tried is very intensely flavored. Doesn't leave a ton of options for adding my own spices and flavors.
  • yellowdaisy3321
    yellowdaisy3321 Posts: 107 Member
    I'm not new and am in maintenance now, but I thought I'd check in. I've finally figured out what it takes to maintain weight and still enjoy life and food. I've been able to stay in a 5lb range for the last 2 mos now even with a knee injury that has sidelined some of my workouts.

    Something interesting that we discussed last night in my maintenance class was when to leave the weight loss program. I wish this had been discussed in weight loss, but I wanted to pass it along for those still in the program. Typically, in my program, people lose an additional 5lbs after leaving weight loss and going through our 6 week realimentation program of adding back food and increasing our calories. After that most people gain 5-10lbs in maintenance before leveling off. Our entire class of 20 people said that had been their experience. Most of us agreed that it coincided with adding complex carbs (beans, whole grains, etc) back into our diets. Now this is not necessarily a bad thing because as you add back in carbs after being in ketosis for so long your body is going to retain water for those carbs, that's just how it is. But mentally it's difficult for many of us to see that 5-10lb gain. Our behaviorist said she is now recommending that her patients lose 5lbs more than their goal weight with the expectation that they will gain those 5lbs back and possibly an additional 5lbs. Just something to think about and maybe not be surprised about when you all do get to maintenance.
  • sebrinac
    sebrinac Posts: 14 Member
    Hey everyone! I am new to this group and new to the plan. I plan on starting tomorrow! I am very anxious and nervous for this change but looking forward to continuing my weight loss journey. Any words of wisdom or advise would be greatly appreciated! Also, if anyone has any favorite flavors I would love to have recommendations. I was so indecisive when it came to choosing my meals for the week. I settled with chocolate shakes, broccoli cheddar soup, chocolate pudding, and the variety pack of the bars. Feel free to add me and please accept my requests! Looking forward to making this journey with all of you :)
  • amyc2912
    amyc2912 Posts: 11 Member
    Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum and new to New Direction. I had my one week weigh in on Thursday. I lost 12.8 the first week. I agree with what a lot of people on here have said. The first week is hard. There were a couple of days that I didn't want to get out of bed. I made it through without cheating and it has gotten so much easier. I'm not going to say it is a breeze but I feel like I'm back to my old self for the most part. My brain is working again (I honestly felt brain dead the first couple of weeks) and I finally stopped acting as if I lost my best friend. I feel pretty confident that it will continue to get easier.
  • dan_IRL
    dan_IRL Posts: 204 Member
    Something interesting that we discussed last night in my maintenance class was when to leave the weight loss program. I wish this had been discussed in weight loss, but I wanted to pass it along for those still in the program. Typically, in my program, people lose an additional 5lbs after leaving weight loss and going through our 6 week realimentation program of adding back food and increasing our calories. After that most people gain 5-10lbs in maintenance before leveling off. Our entire class of 20 people said that had been their experience. Most of us agreed that it coincided with adding complex carbs (beans, whole grains, etc) back into our diets. Now this is not necessarily a bad thing because as you add back in carbs after being in ketosis for so long your body is going to retain water for those carbs, that's just how it is. But mentally it's difficult for many of us to see that 5-10lb gain. Our behaviorist said she is now recommending that her patients lose 5lbs more than their goal weight with the expectation that they will gain those 5lbs back and possibly an additional 5lbs. Just something to think about and maybe not be surprised about when you all do get to maintenance.

    This is good to know! Thanks

  • HuskerJulie413
    HuskerJulie413 Posts: 84 Member
    How's everyone doing since this thread is over 6 months old now?
  • ESueM67
    ESueM67 Posts: 56 Member
    Hi Julie,
    I'm nearing my anniversary in a formal weight loss program. I started the New Direction program in July and was very successful losing nearly 75 pounds. In January, I switched to Outlook (2 New Directions shakes and 1 meal per day) and have lost another 15 pounds since then. The weight loss on the Outlook program is much slower, but it is forcing me to make sensible dietary choices. In total, I have lost 91 pounds, and I would like to lose about 29 more. It has been a long time since I have been as "skinny" as I am now, and I feel terrific.

    How are you doing?
    Best.
    Sue
  • oooooKATEooooo
    oooooKATEooooo Posts: 32 Member
    Sue, 91 lbs gone is fab! Way to go!
    I hope that I can post something similar some day!

  • HuskerJulie413
    HuskerJulie413 Posts: 84 Member
    Hi Sue!

    Sorry it's taken me a month to get back on here! I log my intake and weight on MFP but forgot to check back in with this group!

    Congrats on your weight loss! That is quite an accomplishment! I have about the same weight loss goal as you, about 120 pounds. I am not 100% sure about my goal since like you it's been a LONG time since I was anywhere near a normal BMI.

    Hi Kate!

    How many days now are you into the program? Did you decide to go with the VLCD (full replacements) or the LCD (combo of real food and shakes)?

    ~~~

    I feel so much healthier getting the proper balance of nutrients and off the carbs. I really am considering a low carb way of eating when I reach goal. Being in ketosis has wonderful benefits! I do miss the variety of real foods and not eating at social occasions. I suppose it will get easier. I'm down 27 pounds after 5 weeks.

  • oooooKATEooooo
    oooooKATEooooo Posts: 32 Member
    I havent started
    Need to do EKG and bloodwork
    But, I'm getting closer!
    love reading the success stories!
    keep updating!!
    keep up the continued VLCD success!!! :)
  • HuskerJulie413
    HuskerJulie413 Posts: 84 Member
    Thanks Kate! I lost another 4 pounds this past week. Down 31 after 6 weeks!
  • oooooKATEooooo
    oooooKATEooooo Posts: 32 Member
    Omg wow Julie
    Congrats

    Dr apt next for ekg and blood draw!
  • pweiss79
    pweiss79 Posts: 1 Member
    I'm new to this group kind of found it by accident. I'm excited to start the New Direction program. Even more so after all the positive feedback I been seeing online.
    I met with my doctor today and did the blood work and EKG. I go back next week to get the results from the blood work and meet with the dietician.
    How much exercise are people doing on this program?
  • HuskerJulie413
    HuskerJulie413 Posts: 84 Member
    Hi pweiss79 Glad you found us! Once you and Kate start there will be more of us now.

    Our clinic doesn't want us to truly exercise yet but we were each given an orange stretch band with an instruction sheet to tone 10-20 minutes a session 2-3 x week. This is to get us in the habit of exercising and as we get closer to our goal we will transition to exercise easier if we have been doing the toning exercises. I haven't started doing it because there is so much to adapt to at first but now I am ready to start after 7 weeks. They say it will keep us from losing muscle.

    I bought a $28.00 fat analyzer from Amazon to track my fat% and calculate my Lean Body Mass. I found it helpful to see how much LBM I am losing. Another reason to do my toning exercises! I was down 1 pound a week in LBM for 4 weeks in a row. Here is the link if anyone is interested. http://www.amazon.com/Omron-HBF-306CN-Fat-Loss-Monitor/dp/B000FYZMYK/ref=zg_bs_3777181_1

  • marallewis
    marallewis Posts: 18 Member
    Week 8-9. I'm over 40lbs down on the VLCD and needing to add more strength training as Dr. is concerned that I'll start burning muscle. My total cholesterol is 100. My Triglycerides went from borderline to 62. Blood pressure is 120/70. Pretty amazing. Worried about maintenance as I've only a month left on full replacement. Advice on transition?
  • HuskerJulie413
    HuskerJulie413 Posts: 84 Member
    edited August 2015
    That's great Maral! You should order the fat analyzer I spoke of below. Easy way to track if you are burning muscle or fat. I think I read somewhere that it's typical to lose about 15% muscle when losing weight. Has anyone been told anything about that? I am going to ask at my meeting next week.

    I agree with your doctor. It's important to exercise and get that back when you are transitioning and at your goal.

    I just weighed in today after 7 weeks. Down 34 pounds. Still many, many months before I am reaching my goal!
  • oooooKATEooooo
    oooooKATEooooo Posts: 32 Member
    I'm a few days in.

    In case anyone is interested...
    I bought this little blender ($12.60 @ Kohl's, after my coupon)
    http://www.kohls.com/product/prd-1776112/toastmaster-15-oz-mini-personal-blender.jsp

    It's perfect.
    It's got measurements on the side.
    Add my 9oz h20
    Pulse for a few seconds.
    Add some ice cubes & drink right out of cup.
    It tastes so much better than just being manually shaken!

    I blended WITH the ice (in my VitaMix) - too frothy for me.
    I prefer adding ice or pouring it over ice to get it nice and cold.

    I actually bought two of these little blenders - one for my office (lunch) and one for home.
    Def worth it, IMO.
  • Lisalovestravel
    Lisalovestravel Posts: 58 Member
    Hi Everybody. I'm just starting on my New Directions journey. I go for my orientation on the 26th. I'm impatient to get going! I'm trying to make some positive changes prior to orientation-- even though I really want to binge on everything I'm going to be giving up for a while! I'm really nervous and excited. I'm ready to be healthy and give up the pills (blood pressure) and avoid diabetes. I was in Europe for 5 weeks this summer on an extensive tour- and could barely keep up. I was a turtle. Some things I didn't even enjoy because I was so tired by the time I got to where I needed to go that I couldn't appreciate the being there. ;-( I want to go back to Europe and climb those mountains again!

    And- if the fellow Husker is still around on here- GO BIG RED!
  • marallewis
    marallewis Posts: 18 Member
    10 Weeks in and flirting with 50lbs down. I've gotten exercise worked into the schedule and am on 3 meal replacements a day. I'm within 10lbs of my initial goal which is 198. Happily into my 16s and getting into some 14s and regular XL. It feels good. Starting to fear having to cook again though!!
  • Lisalovestravel
    Lisalovestravel Posts: 58 Member
    Congratulations marallewis! I'm curious how you and the others avoid the desire to eat/snack while on the replacements? Is it easier/harder than you thought it would be?
  • HuskerJulie413
    HuskerJulie413 Posts: 84 Member
    edited August 2015
    Kate---Blending the shakes are the only way to go! Nice little blender. If my Oster blender dies I'll look at the Toastmaster! I found the Pineapple-Apricot gets really frothy. I really like the Chocolate and Vanilla (mixed at times with flavorings and spices for variety) as puddings but made into shakes. I have tried the Lemon Pudding too but it's not The consistency is really thick. I put in once cup of ice and then add water to the 16 ounce mark and then blend. The puddings are not frothy at all. Much richer flavor too.

    Lisa---Congrats on starting your journey! I totally binged the weeks leading up to my start date! I have been taken off of my diuretic, acid reflux and blood pressure pill! I can relate when you talked about your vacation. Being overweight and carb addicted is so tiring. My arthritis was so much worse before this diet too. You will love the health benefits! Thanks for the "Go Big Red" shout out! We love our Cornhusker football here for sure!

    Maral---Congrats on the 50 pounds down!! I'm down 41 after 8 weeks. In our program they DON'T want us to exercise while we are in the reducing phase. I'm worried about muscle loss too as I have a fat analyzer and know I am losing lean body weight. I asked at my monthly visit with the PA and she didn't seem to have anything to say but discouraged me from using the analyzer! I wasn't impressed with her lack of knowledge on the subject when I asked her about how much lean body weight loss is considered normal.

    Lisa---Regarding desire to eat/snack while on the replacements, I have found keeping up on my water intake helps. We are also allowed 10 extra carb grams (total 50g) so chewing gum, sugar free jello, pickles, bouillon are all allowed and they have helped too. Having said that....I have also done a lot of research on ketogenic/ketosis dieting, (LCHF) since starting this diet as I had never heard of losing weight from eating low carb before. I was and still do crave actually "chewing" and some days I am challenged with wanting a little more variety and I get tired of the monotony so I have taken 1-2 bites and/or had VERY small portions of protein/fat foods with no carbs so I stay in ketosis and I have still lost weight at a rate I am happy with so that has helped. I told my PA this in private, not in my weekly group and she wasn't too bothered. I read in this "Drinkers" group another person say in their program their doctor allowed small protein real food snacks when they felt hungry or wanted something in addition to their meal replacements. That program also had most of their ladies on 3 shakes a day and the men on 4 shakes a day. When I have had a protein snack, I try to only have 3 shakes.
  • ESueM67
    ESueM67 Posts: 56 Member
    Hi! I'm not new either. I started the New Direction program last July and had great success losing 70 pounds. A change in my insurance prompted me to move into the Outlook program (2 shakes/day and 1 meal). I've lost another 10 pounds on that program. Yesterday, I switched to what my center calls the "Individual Plan" where I no longer attend weekly meetings, but I do meet monthly with a nutritionist and get more attention. My plan still includes 2 shakes and 1 meal. With thirty more pounds to lose in order to achieve my goal weight and having hovered around the same 3 pound range for a couple of months, I am approaching this new phase in my weight loss journey with renewed vigor, but an open mind also.
  • HuskerJulie413
    HuskerJulie413 Posts: 84 Member
    Thanks for checking in 110tolose! 80 pounds down is great!! That's gotta be frustrating to have had insurance changes and then a stall for 3 months. I hope you can find what works for you to get the last 30 off.
  • Lisalovestravel
    Lisalovestravel Posts: 58 Member
    I go in tomorrow for my big consult and to get my "shopping" done. I was really impressed with my first meeting last week, which ended up being a one on one with me, a PA and the bariatric doc (all women). Julie, are you in the Lincoln area? (Im a Husker too) My doc was pushing big for exercize starting week two- once ketosis is achieved- so I can gain and maintain muscle mass and not lose valuable muscle that helps to burn fat. She also said she likes to introduce 1 meal as soon as possible so we can start learning healthy eating habits ASAP while still under regular supervision. Tomorrow we'll discuss my 20 page questionaire, weight loss goals and our approach to them. We'll discuss the results of my initial blood tests and we'll customize the program for me. Then I'll "officially" start the replacements on Thursday. Im so excited and scared. I'm ready to get this show on the road!
  • Lisalovestravel
    Lisalovestravel Posts: 58 Member
    HuskerJulie, I sent you a PM.
  • HuskerJulie413
    HuskerJulie413 Posts: 84 Member
    Thanks for reaching out Lisa! I live in Omaha.

    Your clinic is run so much different from mine. I have never seen a bariatric doctor, just the PA in my meetings but I would like to! They seem to be for those patients doing the bariatric surgeries. I don't feel the PA I see really gets all the science behind ketosis, just restates the basics and yet I'm very interested in the science part as I am an RN!

    The registered dietician who leads our class is super sweet and supportive but gets her science facts wrong sometimes! I have done lots of research on ketogenic diets since starting, it's all VERY fascinating. I had always been a die hard Weight Watcher devotee and never researched any other kind of diets before so I was unfamiliar with the concept of ketosis. I've learned that many people continue ketogenic diets even after losing weight due to the other side health benefits. I asked our RD about modifying the New Direction maintenance portion when I get to that point and eating a low carb/high fat diet with no sugars/starches so I could stay in ketosis and she said I couldn't do it, that I would eat too much fat, that it was unhealthy, that it was not realistic and not sustainable. Hmmm...I just said okay. Still I know of many people have lived on LC/HF or Paleo-Keto diets and stayed in ketosis for years and decades with great success (even children with epilepsy and people with diabetes) so I was a little taken back that she couldn't say anything positive about it. Being in ketosis has REALLY helped my painful joints so much due to it's anti-inflammatory properties and my acid reflux is gone now too, I have no swelling in my feet or hands! I don't have sugar cravings and don't miss the peaks and valleys of hypoglycemia before and after my meals! I have learned so much about what makes us fat by Gary Taubes (author of Good Calories, Bad Calories and this video https://youtu.be/lDneyrETR2o , and how the food industry is so tied up into money and poor nutrition, see this video by Tom Naughton https://youtu.be/DIt80PxvKn8.

    A couple weeks ago we were going over the topic of fats in class. Now for a long time saturated fats have got a bad rap but the science is coming around more this past decade that it's inflammation that causes heart disease and that we don't have to fear fat like we have been told for years. Our RD said "eating saturated fats is like pouring fat down your sink and clogging up the plumbing."
    It's just not so. Read here: http://thebigfatsurprise.com

    I attended another day for class one week and before class I was sharing how I prefer to use a blender and ice with extra water than the shaker container and another lady said that the RD told their class that they could not use a blender because it would destroy the protein!! What??!! I do appreciate the behavior portions of the education because that is my weakness.

    Rather than eating one meal sooner, we TALK a lot about meals so we know how to eat when we are done and she follows the diabetic exchange program. She is all about tracking but really feels strongly that we can't rely on using MyFitnessPal and that we need to learn the exchange program as a foundation. I know it's part of the New Direction program but seems a little outdated to me when we now have such easy apps on our phones like MFP! I just keep my mouth shut so as not to be negative around others in the class.

    One more weird thing she said and then I'll quit my "rant". We had a lady doing VLCD so no meals and she was going on a vacation with her family and wanted to switch to the LCD just for her vacation (where you eat a meal but they eat carbs so they are not in ketosis). The RD said she couldn't do it, that she had to stick with the meal replacements. I suggested she do a modified LCD during her vacation and just eat protein and very low carb veggies, etc and stay under 50gms like they tell us to do with the meal replacements) so she would stay in ketosis and the RD said no, that even if she did that it would knock her out of ketosis. That was just flat out incorrect but I kept my mouth shut.

    I can't say for sure what I will do when I reach maintenance but I have learned a lot by watching LOTS of YouTube videos and joining the Keto-Adaptation Facebook group. I appreciate NOT having to cook and grocery shop during all my research so I will continue with New Direction for my weight reducing portion, after that I may not continue with my RD for the 2 year after losing portion.

    I am also curious what other people have been told about exercise but will start a new thread. This is LONG already!
  • Lisalovestravel
    Lisalovestravel Posts: 58 Member
    Well, to be honest, I've only been to my clinic once. However, I was referred there by a family friend who is also doing the diet. She was having a lot of health issues due to weight. She lost 60 pounds- and those negative health issues- and is on the maintanance program. When I saw some of the things she was posting about her "program", I contacted her privately. I'd been debating about seeing a bariatric doctor and getting info on gastric bypass procedures, but just wasn't sure I was ready (or would qualify) for something that drastic. When she told me about her doctor and the program, I immediately felt hope!

    I really do appreciate that my new doctor wants to treat the whole woman/person and feels education about eating and weight is her mission in life. Right away she talked about how people want to do things the "easy way". She then explained that the body is no different. It wants energy for fuel and is going to get it the quickest and easiest way. The easy way is with carbs. You can eat all the spinich you want, but if you eat it with potatoes and bread, it's going to burn the carb calories from the potatoes and bread and break down the spinach last. And if those spinach calories aren't needed, it will store them as fat. If a person wants to lose weight, then you need to make sure you're eating the foods that will are going to burn as fat, and not easy, inefficient fuel. I think I'm paraphrashing her correctly. There was SO MUCH information at that first meeting!

    Thanks for sharing those videos. They just back up everything my doctor said.
  • ESueM67
    ESueM67 Posts: 56 Member
    Is that bit about the blender ruining the protein true? I always use a blender to mix water, ice, hot cocoa mix and powdered peanut butter. Our nutritionist even used a blender in a recipe session.

    I don't want to give up using my blender.
  • Lisalovestravel
    Lisalovestravel Posts: 58 Member
    The back of my packets mention using a blender on low to avoid excess foaming. I should think if it were a big no-no, that we would be specifically instructed not to do it.
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