Winter Running Gear
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »If I tried running in snow shows it would look like this *walk*run*FLOP!!!*Crawl*Cry*walk*Run*flop*Crawl*Flop........
Isn't that what cross country skis were for?
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Real life application running clothes: Today's run:
Distance: 11 miles
Time running: 1:45:54
Temps: 9F-11F
Sunny, very light breeze on the way back
Gear:
Base Layer: US ColdGear mock turtleneck
Mid Layer: C9 DoubleDry longsleeve *kitten*
Jacket: Asic Thermopolis 1/2 zip jacket
Outer layer: Brooks LSD jacket (for wind)
Pants: Saucony Siberius pant
Socks: Cabela's wool socks
Shoes: Brooks Glycerin 14
Gloves: Scott ski gloves with handwarmer pocket (I had hand warmers in)
Hat: off the shelf knit hat
This outfit was more than up to the task this morning. The 4 layers on top were more than enough to keep me warm. I actually probably over did it with the C9 shirt. Gloves worked great. My hands are always an issue, but with the hand warmers in, my hands actually got Sweaty! I love my siberius pants. The only part of my legs that ever felt somewhat cold were the front of my quads, because they were in constant contact with the pants. Other than that my legs were quite warm. This is a pretty typical outfit for me for the winter, though I add/subtract layers depending on the temps.3 -
I've never had issues with my toes being cold as long as I'm moving, but for hands, mittens are definitely the way to go, or mittens over gloves - it makes a huge difference for me!3
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »Real life application running clothes: Today's run:
Distance: 11 miles
Time running: 1:45:54
Temps: 9F-11F
Sunny, very light breeze on the way back
Gear:
Base Layer: US ColdGear mock turtleneck
Mid Layer: C9 DoubleDry longsleeve *kitten*
Jacket: Asic Thermopolis 1/2 zip jacket
Outer layer: Brooks LSD jacket (for wind)
Pants: Saucony Siberius pant
Socks: Cabela's wool socks
Shoes: Brooks Glycerin 14
Gloves: Scott ski gloves with handwarmer pocket (I had hand warmers in)
Hat: off the shelf knit hat
This outfit was more than up to the task this morning. The 4 layers on top were more than enough to keep me warm. I actually probably over did it with the C9 shirt. Gloves worked great. My hands are always an issue, but with the hand warmers in, my hands actually got Sweaty! I love my siberius pants. The only part of my legs that ever felt somewhat cold were the front of my quads, because they were in constant contact with the pants. Other than that my legs were quite warm. This is a pretty typical outfit for me for the winter, though I add/subtract layers depending on the temps.
Love this. Thanks for the detailed report (this is how I learn). You totally rock.
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MNLittleFinn wrote: »JustSomeEm wrote: »Y'all rock. Thanks. Question: How do you keep your sunglasses from fogging up in the winter? (@daj150 - since you were the only one that mentioned sunglasses, I think)
I keep them from fogging up by keeping them at home....I run in the dark....LOL
Also, is it bad that I'm kind of looking forward to the 5-8 inches of snow coming on Friday? I want to see how my Saucony Xodus do in snow. Good thing I have good socks, those shoes are NOT warerproof.
Hey - How did your shoes do in the snow?0 -
Has anyone tried the Saucony Perrigrine Ice trail shoes yet?0
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I really worry about those thin mesh panels on my shoes when we get to the snowy/slushy season (which may be very soon). I'm toying with the notion of going back to my winter combat boots for that. I know they are at least waterproof!1
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I wear On Winter Edition. UH-MAZE-BALZ! Handle great, wind and water proof...no complaints....except price.0
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The issue I think I'm going to have in the cold is having gloves / mittens that are thin enough for me to be able to hold my water bottle and yet thick enough to keep my hands warm. That run on Sat. I cut short because I had nothing covering my hands at all and was on the brink of frostbite. It was only 34 degrees, so just figure what happens when it gets colder.
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I run year-round, outside, in Minnesota in my regular road shoes (Gel Nimbus & Glycerin) and have not felt the need to get any special shoes for winter. If it's particularly cold and the wind will blow through the shoes, or I'm going through wet snow or slush I'll cover up the upper with duct tape, which works well and doesn't leave any residue.
As far what you wear, the best way to find out is to go out and run in it. Reading a chart from Running World, or reading what someone else wears is a good start, but they can really be way off to what you end up liking. The "guide" in that Runners World link indicates that a long sleeve shirts is appropriate at 49F. For my preference that's just crazy. I don't put on a long sleeve shirt until it drops to the mid 30's.1 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »The issue I think I'm going to have in the cold is having gloves / mittens that are thin enough for me to be able to hold my water bottle and yet thick enough to keep my hands warm. That run on Sat. I cut short because I had nothing covering my hands at all and was on the brink of frostbite. It was only 34 degrees, so just figure what happens when it gets colder.
Water bottle belt? Hydration belt? Hydration pack? The only way I hold a water bottle when I run in cold weather is if it's insulated. As for @7lenny7, I agree completely. What everyone is writing it really just a recommendation, but everyone handles temperature and weather differently based on mental and physical tolerances. So, read all of the suggestions, and try out things until you find what works for you.1 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »The issue I think I'm going to have in the cold is having gloves / mittens that are thin enough for me to be able to hold my water bottle and yet thick enough to keep my hands warm. That run on Sat. I cut short because I had nothing covering my hands at all and was on the brink of frostbite. It was only 34 degrees, so just figure what happens when it gets colder.
Water bottle belt? Hydration belt? Hydration pack? The only way I hold a water bottle when I run in cold weather is if it's insulated. As for @7lenny7, I agree completely. What everyone is writing it really just a recommendation, but everyone handles temperature and weather differently based on mental and physical tolerances. So, read all of the suggestions, and try out things until you find what works for you.
It isn't as much about the water bottle as it is having dexterity. I need that even with a hydration back or hydration belt. If I can't grab the tube and put it to my lips, then the gloves are still a problem.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »It isn't as much about the water bottle as it is having dexterity. I need that even with a hydration back or hydration belt. If I can't grab the tube and put it to my lips, then the gloves are still a problem.
@midwesterner85 have you tried "glommits"? When it gets really cold, below 0F, I'll start using these. I can put a chemical hand warmer in the mitt part to keep my fingers warm, but easily get my fingers out to do whatever it is I need to do. I like to get them with large enough finger holes so that i can wear a thin pair of running gloves underneath so my bare fingers aren't exposed.
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I wear On Winter Edition. UH-MAZE-BALZ! Handle great, wind and water proof...no complaints....except price.
@daj150 I just bought two pair of On's Cloundventure trail shoe. OMG!! They immediately became my favorite shoes. They feel like I'm wearing a pair of comfy slippers, yet I have plenty of trail feel and responsiveness.
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midwesterner85 wrote: »It isn't as much about the water bottle as it is having dexterity. I need that even with a hydration back or hydration belt. If I can't grab the tube and put it to my lips, then the gloves are still a problem.
@midwesterner85 have you tried "glommits"? When it gets really cold, below 0F, I'll start using these. I can put a chemical hand warm in the mitt part to keep my fingers warm, but easily get my fingers out to do whatever it is I need to do. I like to get them with large enough finger holes so that i can wear a thin pair of running gloves underneath so my bare fingers aren't exposed.
Oh, yes... I can't believe I hadn't thought of that. I used to use these while hunting (have been a few years since I've made it. I'm sure I still have a pair. Mine are blaze orange, so I might look a bit odd, but I suppose I'll be visible also.1 -
Orange shows you are running in style.2
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Well, I knew the cold weather was coming, so I bought set of fleece lined pants and top (the really thin ones, like compression clothing) along with some wool/spandex knee socks and a lightweight balaclava. Then all that was worn under my regular shirt/shorts/hat and track suit. It was a balmy 33 this morning and I was comfortably warm, but tomorrow is forecasted to be 18 (that's -8 for all you metric folks) so I will have to see if it's enough or I need to change/add more.
This is why I really hate winter. Getting ready to run should be quick and simple. This is becoming on par with gearing up in a drysuit to scuba dive.3 -
silverfiend wrote: »Well, I knew the cold weather was coming, so I bought set of fleece lined pants and top (the really thin ones, like compression clothing) along with some wool/spandex knee socks and a lightweight balaclava. Then all that was worn under my regular shirt/shorts/hat and track suit. It was a balmy 33 this morning and I was comfortably warm, but tomorrow is forecasted to be 18 (that's -8 for all you metric folks) so I will have to see if it's enough or I need to change/add more.
This is why I really hate winter. Getting ready to run should be quick and simple. This is becoming on par with gearing up in a drysuit to scuba dive.
I know what you mean. First, I changed from trails to road running in the evening so I would have time after work and before dark. Now that I'm spending so much time just changing clothes and getting everything on and ready to go, it is nearly dark as I get out the door.
I might or might not make it out this evening. Haven't pulled out those mitten gloves yet, but will spend my lunch trying to find them. Right now, it is 22 F, but wind chill of 9 F. That's -6 C, wind chill of -13 C. It isn't going to get better as the month goes on, so if I'm going to get my miles in, I should head out today.1 -
silverfiend wrote: »Well, I knew the cold weather was coming, so I bought set of fleece lined pants and top (the really thin ones, like compression clothing) along with some wool/spandex knee socks and a lightweight balaclava. Then all that was worn under my regular shirt/shorts/hat and track suit. It was a balmy 33 this morning and I was comfortably warm, but tomorrow is forecasted to be 18 (that's -8 for all you metric folks) so I will have to see if it's enough or I need to change/add more.
This is why I really hate winter. Getting ready to run should be quick and simple. This is becoming on par with gearing up in a drysuit to scuba dive.
I hear ya. However, last night I was feeling too lazy to get all geared up (tights, base layer shirt, jacket, two pairs of gloves, hat, socks, shoes, sports bra, Garmin and don't forget the reflective bands and headlamp), so I just decided to use my treadmill. 5 minutes into the dreadmill run, I remembered why putting on all the gear is worth it. 3 -
Lol, i hate the treadmill too!0
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Anything is better than the dreadmill!!2
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silverfiend wrote: »Well, I knew the cold weather was coming, so I bought set of fleece lined pants and top (the really thin ones, like compression clothing) along with some wool/spandex knee socks and a lightweight balaclava. Then all that was worn under my regular shirt/shorts/hat and track suit. It was a balmy 33 this morning and I was comfortably warm, but tomorrow is forecasted to be 18 (that's -8 for all you metric folks) so I will have to see if it's enough or I need to change/add more.
A prime example of why what works for some may not work for others. If I put all those clothes on at 33F I'd be a hot, sweaty mess.
It should be about 4F wind chill when I go run tonight. I'll be wearing:
ASICS Gel Nimbus (not yet cold enough to duct tape the uppers)
mid-weight Isowool socks (also used for summer trail running)
light weight tights (though it's getting close to be cold enough for my SmartWool tights
wind briefs
thin long sleeve base layer
mid-weight long sleeve running shirt
super thin wind jacket
thin gloves with "glommits" over them
very thin balaclava
buff around my neck
hat over my balaclava
10 minutes into the run I'll be removing the hat and unzipping my jacket half way. 20 minutes in I'll be removing the buff and pulling up the balaclava to function as a hat.
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wow. You sound like a guy I saw this evening. Running in shorts, a light top and a hat. I looked at the temp gauge when I passed him and it read 36 (before any windchill). I was just thinking, I would be freezing to death with so little on.
I think we all have a preferred temp to be at. I hate the cold, and I'm usually very comfortable when everyone else is sweating and complaining of the heat.1 -
I ran yesterday in 30 degree, WC about 18 in
Sports bra
Long sleeve medium weight tech shirt
Long sleeve light weight half zip
Cuddle duds long undies
Fleece lined running tights
Low cut socks
Shoes
Medium weight running jacket
Hat
Fleece mittens
Mittens come off about 1.25mi mark, hat off about 1.5mi and zipper outer zipper down halfway at about a mile. Everything stayed nicely warm and comfortable, except my cheeks and lips - I forgot my lip goo AGAIN. They're just going to dry up and fall off next time I forget.
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juliet3455 wrote: »7 km with the Dedicated Winter Warriors 5 runners and 5 headlamps bobbing up and down along the trails, it's cold enough that the snow actually squeaks with every step. It makes for quite the racket when you have 5 runners in a gang - hard to carry on a conversation. One of the petite young ladies had the look of "WTF am I doing" while sitting in her car putting on her glove(s) and hat(s). We weren't the only ones out on the Trails - Dog walkers and other runners coming from the other trails.
Another Chilly one- although looks like a heatwave for Sunday
December Running Goal 140km
12/01–0.0 km –140km – 0 km – YTD 1210.5 km
12/03–8.0 km –132km – 8 km
12/04–5.0 km –127km – 13 km
12/05–12.0 km –115km – 25 km
12/06–7.0 km –108km – 32 km – YTD 1242.5 km
Knee High Smart Wool Socks
Saxx Undies - Protect the
Gore Wind blocker Mid-Weight Tights
Light Weight Wind Blocker Athletic Pants
Light Weight Long Sleeve Tech shirt
Mid Weight Long Sleeve Zipper Tech Shirt
Running Shell - Pit Zips and Back Zip
Neck Buff
Ear Flap Toque
Ski Gloves
Mizuno Wave Ascend Trail shoes
Had to Pull the Front Zipper and Top part of the side zippers after 2km2 -
-22 ?!?!? wow, I thought my run this morning at 17 (-8C) was bad. I need to get new gloves, these lightweight cotton ones aren't effective enough at this temp. The UA balaclava kept my face from freezing but that thing was soaked when I took it off. It's a miracle of science that it was providing any warmth at all. Maybe need to look at just knitted wool face and neck protector.
The corners of my eyes were iced up when I got back home, but everything else was decent enough.0 -
This morning's Run:
8 miles
19 degrees F
12mph NNW windswith gusts to 30
Snowing
This morning's gear:
Base Layer: US ColdGear mock turtleneck
Jacket: Asic Thermopolis 1/2 zip jacket
Outer layer: Brooks LSD jacket (for wind)
Pants: Nike running pants
Socks: Cabela's wool socks
Shoes: Saucony Xoduc 6.0
Gloves: Scott ski gloves
Hat: off the shelf knit hat0 -
This morning's run:
11 miles
-5F warming to -3F
3-5mph WSW winds
Blowing snow
This morning's gear:
Base Layer: US ColdGear mock turtleneck
Mid Layer: Mizumo half zip base layer
Jacket: C9 hooded sweatshirt
Outer layer: Brooks LSD jacket (for wind)
Pants: Saucony Siberius pants with thermal underwear under there
Socks: Cabela's wool socks and REI wool socks
Shoes: Brooks Glycerin 13
Gloves: Scott ski gloves with hand warmers in
Hat: off the shelf knit hat
This outfit worked pretty darn well, though my fingers got cold and I had to pull them into the gloves further for the last mile and a half. I had a balaclava on, but ended up pulling it down as a gator, at which point, all the condensation on it made it freeze solid. All in all a great outfit, despite having to take a hair dryer to the balaclava so I could get it off right away.3 -
Dropped $100 on the Nike element jacket. This morning it was mid 20s and I wore a short sleeve shirt and that jacket; ended up unzipping to mid-chest to avoid overheating. Wish I had this last week when I was wearing 3-4 layers for single digit temps.2
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Nice buy! As mentioned before, once you finally find good gear, you are set. My only issue is that Nike gloves and cap I used to use that wore out are no longer sold and I can't find them anywhere. I have since found alternatives, but I now buy a second of anything that I find to be a "perfect fit". Well, assuming I can afford a second one, lol.1
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