madambutterfly91 wrote: »

@KnitOrMiss
When you misscarried with the chemical pregnancy (if it's not to sensitive to talk about) what was it like. Cause I've still not bleed or passed anything like I did with my other miscarriages. I assume I would at least bleed like a period of nothing else right???

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@madambutterfly91
I have been blessed that it was 17 years ago, and so not fresh - and that I had a successful pregnancy after, so I have a happy side to it all, too. I do not mind talking about it.

I confirm with a test on a Thursday, was excited to start sharing the news Friday... My then husband's best friend and his wife came over that night to tell us that they were also expecting. Saturday was mostly normal, until evening, and by then, I was starting to feel "off," from what I remember. Sunday was cramping and eventually a period with clots and moderate bleeding - but I don't remember it lasting all that long. I don't think I was even still spotting when I went in Monday for my already scheduled appointment with my OB/GYN (to confirm the pregnancy), so I went, and they confirmed that if there had been anything, there was no longer evidence of it. I had been about 5 weeks, so barely far enough along to have "felt" pregnant, but I had "known" from the chemical conception reaction, because I felt everything for weeks before I missed my cycle, and it took several days of tests for a positive reaction...

They said at absolutely had to be a chemical situation or a "dry run" as he called it then. I ended up conceiving about 9 days later - and didn't even suspect for about 6 weeks that I was pregnant again, because my "morning sickness" was getting worse, not better. The ladies in my office figured it out before I did. I finally took a test (around 8 weeks) and confirmed the next week at my doc as 8 wks 3 days.

They told me at the time, they had absolutely no idea how that had happened, because a chemical pregnancy should have stopped my ovulation and I should have had a "dump cycle" before I started ovulating again. I did NOT have a cycle between the miscarriage and the conception.

However, if your chemical pregnancy did not result in full ovulation/uterine lining thickening, and all of that, you may not have need for a full bleed cycle. With it being a chemical pregnancy, the cells could have joined, and not been viable, and the HCG level still went up, but the cells could have passed right away without the uterine lining building and such.

Since you've had a recent history of regular cycles, you're probably going to need to make sure that you get another ultrasound if you come up negative on tests still in another 2-4 weeks, because if you need to pass everything, you may have to have a DNC to remove the lining (or BCP to force the cycle). Our female hormones are so wacky that there is literally no telling what happened to cause this (for example, when my DD started her hormone cycles, her levels were strong enough that she reset my cycle back to normal - i.e., away from my 6-8 week with cysts bursting at ovulation cycle - within a few months).

It could have been anything, literally. As I said, I would follow up with more OTC tests (The Dollar Tree and other places have them for $1 or really cheaply - and they're fairly reliable), as you go on, but stressing about this alone can postpone your cycle longer.

Hopefully the new doctor can run more tests, because it is odd for you not to have started a cycle yet...chemical pregnancy or "false positive" pregnancy tests aside.


As for the progesterone, it really depends on why you are using it, etc. Miscarriage risk is high if your progesterone levels don't increase appropriately, so many ladies here have used it for conception, for maintaining a pregnancy, or both. I had secondary infertility (had a huge number of complicating factors discovered AFTERWARDS), which was when I used the progesterone (a compounded cream I rubbed into my thigh daily, rotating left one day, right the next, etc.). It did not ever work for me, because I had extremely depleted adrenals after having my daughter (long story) and my body kept stealing and progesterone I added (it's the least necessary hormone, so the most readily stolen and converted) for cortisol and adrenaline in my body. After a while, it was causing more mental problems (we were actively trying to conceive, and feeling pregnant every month was making me quite mental - because I wasn't), so I stopped it (maybe 18 months or so?). I got progressively heavier until I started with the cysts rupturing during ovulation, and eventually my cycles resetting. I'm glad to answer any other questions you have if I can...

Sending the best of thoughts, @madambutterfly91 - all the way around.

The only time I ever lactated was when I was nursing my daughter. By the time I was drying up, she was almost 18 months old. I can tell you that in being around a newborn, it will take a lot longer, unless they give you medication for it. I have a friend I no longer live near that she worked in daycare. Her youngest child was 10 or so, and she still would lactate or feel "let down" "drop down" whatever you want to call it, when babies around her cried in distress. But she was perpetually exposed, etc. It is a hormonal reaction, so even though that baby isn't yours, etc., the response is still triggered because your body is in a heightened state. I would probably look on the La Leche League's site - they can likely tell you how to do it naturally or with supplements, etc.

(HUGS)

Oh also I'm on 1500 mg of metformin also now and working on new low carb lifestyle and losing weight. I've lost about 15 lbs since pregnant and I am feeling better. Also 20 mins excersize everyday (recumbant bike) Got pregnant first time on 500 mg metformin. My doctor's now say that is a weird dose and typically they recommend 2000m or as much as you can tolerate.