Races that “Discourage” headphones or don’t allow them
WickAndArtoo
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I found a half marathon that I want to race in, and I was really excited until I read in the frequently asked Qs that headphones are “highly discouraged”. This kind of put me out, as it’s a huge part of my love of running to be able to listen to upbeat motivating music.
This would be my second half and I’m just curious what others think about this. I am always aware of my surroundings and I can hear people talking to me with them in... is the term “discouraged” flimsy enough that I could get away with still wearing them? Or should I expect it to be truly headphones free? I had no idea this was a thing!!
This would be my second half and I’m just curious what others think about this. I am always aware of my surroundings and I can hear people talking to me with them in... is the term “discouraged” flimsy enough that I could get away with still wearing them? Or should I expect it to be truly headphones free? I had no idea this was a thing!!
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I've never run with music, it's never bothered me.
If I have it low enough to be able to hear my surroundings I can't actually hear it over my footsteps and breathing!! :laugh:1 -
TavistockToad wrote: »I've never run with music, it's never bothered me.
If I have it low enough to be able to hear my surroundings I can't actually hear it over my footsteps and breathing!! :laugh:
This is so interesting! I have begrudgingly ran without music, but to me it’s really important, it’s hard to explain why but the music makes me feel something inside and that power helps on my runs lol.2 -
I think this is more of an insurance risk for the organizers. They need participants to be alert and able to respond to commands.
I rarely use headphones and only use one so I can listen and be aware of my surroundings.0 -
I feel the same way when I see that. I try to consider the "why" and that dictates what I do next. The only time I have ever actually not used music in a race that discouraged earbuds was single track trail... this was to better know when someone was behind me and needed to pass.0
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I train with music but don't often race with it as lot of organised runs ban them and you risk disqualification.
They haven't banned them outright so maybe you could get away with them with a low volume or one ear in.
Best of Luck
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I train almost 100% without music since I'm always running with friends. But at races I put on my headphones and get into my own little world.
If the race explicitly disallows them, I do not register. Most races discourage them but only a few I've found that outright tell you not to wear them.
I ran Broad Street Run in Philly a couple years ago and they 'discourage them' very loudly. But then you look at the official guide (printed guide) and there on the cover is a picture of runners with headphones in.2 -
Many of our local races forbid headphones. They don't close the roads to traffic and it is simply too dangerous to have people running who can't hear cars coming up behind them or hear the yells of other runners to move out of the way. I've seen some really close encounters with people who weren't paying attention or couldn't hear the shouts. You can be disqualified in some of the races if you wear headphones, but some people use them anyway.
Because of the ban, I do about half of my runs without headphones so I don't become too dependent on them. I have found that I actually run better without them. I pay more attention to my pace and listen more to my body's signals. My pace is more even. I pay more attention to the other runners and the spectators. In a race I don't really need to be distracted because I enjoy being there.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »I feel the same way when I see that. I try to consider the "why" and that dictates what I do next. The only time I have ever actually not used music in a race that discouraged earbuds was single track trail... this was to better know when someone was behind me and needed to pass.
At many of the trail races I do, they announce about being courteous and keeping one head phone out.
In one race I did that had a lot of single track, some genius had both earphone in and must have had the earbuds that seal to the ear so you cannot hear. Despite two announcements he didn't acknowledge or move, so I basically had to push him aside to get by.1 -
I rarely use headphones anyway, so it doesn't directly affect me. In the UK the race licensing is driven by UK Athletics, and both the Trail Running Association and Fell Running Association derive their licenses from there as well.
Essentially UKA ban anything except bone conduction from any race predominantly on the road, where the roads aren't closed. Motor vehicles and bodies don't mix well.
I know of a few races that have DQd people for ignoring that, and I've seen a few tantrums from people who've been DQd.
The only time I'm listening to anything terms to be where the running is boring anyway, so roads/ urban. I can kind of get why people want distraction in that environment, but then I don't really understand why they're paying for money for the experience of running through a built up area.1 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »I feel the same way when I see that. I try to consider the "why" and that dictates what I do next. The only time I have ever actually not used music in a race that discouraged earbuds was single track trail... this was to better know when someone was behind me and needed to pass.
I definitely feel that’s fair way to look at it! I would definitely not want to put any other runners out or in harms way.0 -
I am loving all of the responses! I actually love watching the people racing, spectators, and the scenery around me while running a race, that’s why I pay so much money to do it! That has nothing to do with my music and I’m not using it as a distraction.
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headphones take away one of your senses. On courses that aren't closed to traffic and, espcaially, on trail, you NEED to have full situational awareness. I haven't run with music for a couple years, at all distances. It really is a safety issue. it's too easy to zone out with music in, so a lot of RDs discourage it.0
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I don't want music when I'm running, and I don't really relate to how it enhances running (or its lack degrades running) for others. I will say, as a runner who does not wear headphones, I would prefer runners that do want music to wear clearly visible headphones instead of tiny earbuds I can't see. If I see the headphones, I know to expect you can't hear me saying/shouting anything to you.1
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i used to run with them, i found it helped me keep pace. but when i ran my first half, my phone lost connectivity and i ran without. since then, i have run without music.
if it is discouraged, you may run with them. preferably with one ear out.0 -
As a former race director, I can tell you that runners with headphones are safety risks. I've seen people run into others because they don't realize someone is near them.
Also, if you are hosting a race that is sanctioned by a governing body (USA Track and Field), they specifically prohibit headphones in competitive events, which is probably driven by liability insurance requirements. (Your local 5k might not be a sanctioned event.)3 -
Going back to the original question, you are probably fine unless you are going to win or place in your age group. (i.e. a mid to back of the packer is not going to be scrutinized.)2
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Usually you can get away with one ear bud.....so you can still hear1
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The sound quality isn't as good, but maybe bone conduction headphones?0
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I run with music as well, I believe if you read the fine print on every single race they all say they discourage headphones, they have to for liability but unless you're aiming to place they generally don't enforce. If it is strictly no headphones at all, they generally state it that way. Some races have you remove headphones going into the finish chute for safety. I would say if they discourage headphones you are still fine, I would bet most people will use them.1
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I train with one earbud for safety. I share the trails with cyclists and occasional work crews, and I need to know if they're behind me. There's also a considerable amount of wildlife where I am, including coyotes and the occasional bobcat. Granted, humans are noisier than any of the animals out there--and I often have to make a lot of noise to scare coyotes away--but in theory I can hear them!
"Highly discouraged" is standard wording for most races and you'll likely see plenty of people wearing earbuds. I continue my one earbud routine in races, and I see people with them in every race I've run. (I'd prefer it if they only used one, though; it can be hard to pass people who wear both earbuds.) I don't sign up for races that ban earbuds because I don't like running without music. I ran one race without music and swore I'd never do that again.1 -
Wow this was exactly the question I was going to post lol. Was just going over the FAQ for my race today and they also say they discourage wearing headphones.... I've ran before without music and done several races but I agree the music really helps me stay motivated and keep a good pace. I also can't imagine running 20+ miles without, I would be bored out of my mind. I'm going to try to just keep the volume low or wear one bud in like others suggested. I train every day wearing them and I blast the music pretty loud, whenever I get to a busy road or a section where there are lots of distractions I just press the pause button.0
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I hate running without music unless I am with a group. I had to run my one race without (night race but others used them and it would have been hard to see). I wouldn't have used it at the beginning, large group of people. But the entire back end i was pretty alone.
I can understand one headphone.1 -
Wow this was exactly the question I was going to post lol. Was just going over the FAQ for my race today and they also say they discourage wearing headphones.... I've ran before without music and done several races but I agree the music really helps me stay motivated and keep a good pace. I also can't imagine running 20+ miles without, I would be bored out of my mind. I'm going to try to just keep the volume low or wear one bud in like others suggested. I train every day wearing them and I blast the music pretty loud, whenever I get to a busy road or a section where there are lots of distractions I just press the pause button.
I ended up not training for this race, and chose to skip it bc time was very limited (and I missed two crucial weeks lol)... but I am still glad to have gotten so much response and that it can help you!! I really doubt I could run that far without music, so I’m pretty sure I would just risk breaking the rules as long as I wasn’t putting anyone else in danger/bothering them lol. I am a very slow runner so I wouldn’t be near anyone else judging from my race experiences in the past. How is your training going?!!1 -
I can understand one headphone.
Put my headphones in one day (Samsung Iconx truly wireless) only to realize they needed a charge. One dies very quickly and the other kept going to ~ the 8k mark (was doing 10K). Realized I liked running with just one earbud in and started doing this regularly.
Only wear both on the treadmill now. Unfortunately, with the smoke in my area that's all I'm doing right now
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Tacklewasher wrote: »I can understand one headphone.
Put my headphones in one day (Samsung Iconx truly wireless) only to realize they needed a charge. One dies very quickly and the other kept going to ~ the 8k mark (was doing 10K). Realized I liked running with just one earbud in and started doing this regularly.
Only wear both on the treadmill now. Unfortunately, with the smoke in my area that's all I'm doing right now
I have Jaybird Run earbuds and they haven't died yet. My usual distance is 10K, but I've used them up to a half marathon. However, only the right earbud works on its own--the left one will not work unless you're also using the right.
Stay safe with the smoke...we're in central California, not close to any wildfires, but they'll be doing a controlled burn along my usual route soon and I'll need to figure out alternatives.0 -
WickAndArtoo wrote: »Wow this was exactly the question I was going to post lol. Was just going over the FAQ for my race today and they also say they discourage wearing headphones.... I've ran before without music and done several races but I agree the music really helps me stay motivated and keep a good pace. I also can't imagine running 20+ miles without, I would be bored out of my mind. I'm going to try to just keep the volume low or wear one bud in like others suggested. I train every day wearing them and I blast the music pretty loud, whenever I get to a busy road or a section where there are lots of distractions I just press the pause button.
I ended up not training for this race, and chose to skip it bc time was very limited (and I missed two crucial weeks lol)... but I am still glad to have gotten so much response and that it can help you!! I really doubt I could run that far without music, so I’m pretty sure I would just risk breaking the rules as long as I wasn’t putting anyone else in danger/bothering them lol. I am a very slow runner so I wouldn’t be near anyone else judging from my race experiences in the past. How is your training going?!!
Aw that's a bummer! Have you signed up for another one? I feel the same way lol I'm going to have to sneak mine in! It's going... but slow... I'm still on low mileage right now so the rest days are downright boring, I can't wait for some longer distances! Trying not to cheat so I don't hurt myself lol 👍0 -
WickAndArtoo wrote: »Wow this was exactly the question I was going to post lol. Was just going over the FAQ for my race today and they also say they discourage wearing headphones.... I've ran before without music and done several races but I agree the music really helps me stay motivated and keep a good pace. I also can't imagine running 20+ miles without, I would be bored out of my mind. I'm going to try to just keep the volume low or wear one bud in like others suggested. I train every day wearing them and I blast the music pretty loud, whenever I get to a busy road or a section where there are lots of distractions I just press the pause button.
I ended up not training for this race, and chose to skip it bc time was very limited (and I missed two crucial weeks lol)... but I am still glad to have gotten so much response and that it can help you!! I really doubt I could run that far without music, so I’m pretty sure I would just risk breaking the rules as long as I wasn’t putting anyone else in danger/bothering them lol. I am a very slow runner so I wouldn’t be near anyone else judging from my race experiences in the past. How is your training going?!!
Aw that's a bummer! Have you signed up for another one? I feel the same way lol I'm going to have to sneak mine in! It's going... but slow... I'm still on low mileage right now so the rest days are downright boring, I can't wait for some longer distances! Trying not to cheat so I don't hurt myself lol 👍
I totally agree rest days are so hard!!!! It is so much more motivating with the longer distances too, although I did 6 miles today and the runger is insane!!!! Apparently 5 miles = normal 6miles = insanely hungry way over cals for the day!!2 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »I can understand one headphone.
Put my headphones in one day (Samsung Iconx truly wireless) only to realize they needed a charge. One dies very quickly and the other kept going to ~ the 8k mark (was doing 10K). Realized I liked running with just one earbud in and started doing this regularly.
Only wear both on the treadmill now. Unfortunately, with the smoke in my area that's all I'm doing right now
I have Jaybird Run earbuds and they haven't died yet. My usual distance is 10K, but I've used them up to a half marathon. However, only the right earbud works on its own--the left one will not work unless you're also using the right.
Stay safe with the smoke...we're in central California, not close to any wildfires, but they'll be doing a controlled burn along my usual route soon and I'll need to figure out alternatives.
They will last longer, just that I forgot to put them in the charger so they were close to dead when I started. I've done 1/2's with them no issue.
Yeah, the smoke is keeping me on the treadmill. Thanks0 -
My last half had a policy of allowing 1 earpiece only. It worked really well. Is this becoming a 'thing' now?1
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Haha so the OP here! I ran a trail race a couple weeks ago and I ran without headphones bc I wasn’t sure how narrow the trail would be and didn’t want to annoy anyone. It went great, and I didn’t mind running without HP (in fact have done multiple short runs without them since).
Anyways I actually had an annoying moment where I was trying to pass someone and she had headphones in, I shouted twice and nothing so I had to kind nudge her over... so yeah... I can see why people could get frustrated and how it could be dangerous... I definitely like the headphones turned low or single earbud in idea!5
