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MWMstr17
MWMstr17 Posts: 1,354 Member
General topics and fitness or nutrition resources to share.
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  • bradkcrew
    bradkcrew Posts: 1,720 Member
    thanks for setting this up!
  • starjam25
    starjam25 Posts: 4,826 Member
    Cool! It'll be nice to be able to chat between the terms!
  • Briaboo4
    Briaboo4 Posts: 1,080 Member
    Hey, thank you for setting this up. :smile:
  • MWMstr17
    MWMstr17 Posts: 1,354 Member
    Sure, all ideas welcome. I'm a rookie, but I figure there is largely dead air b/t terms, since each term requires taking roll call, sorting, and sending out invites, etc.

    For this, I was thinking "just enough" to stay on the wagon between terms, and also try to keep up interest in Slytherin House as first choice. Maybe each set a goal for the break, and use ICY to stay focused?
  • MWMstr17
    MWMstr17 Posts: 1,354 Member
  • Briaboo4
    Briaboo4 Posts: 1,080 Member
    I've put in my application! Only Slytherin will do for me, of course. :smile:
  • stinabean83
    stinabean83 Posts: 1,241 Member
    Me too!
    Thanks for setting up this group where we can hang out in the meantime!
    That reminds me, I should finish my Bingo! I've been slacking keeping track as have been busy this month with a menu plan challenge but want to keep up with all you snakes during the break!!
  • Dawnshealth111
    Dawnshealth111 Posts: 884 Member
    I signed up and my mom is going to join when her electricity comes back.
  • Rigibann
    Rigibann Posts: 3,669 Member
    Just popping in whilst on holiday - good to keep in touch until next term
  • hippysprout
    hippysprout Posts: 1,446 Member
    Think I've made up my mind about the holiday term. I've always struggled with the holidays and I don't expect this year to be very different. The main difference will be my commitment to an overall low sodium diet. While I've discovered that insisting on low sodium very often precludes over-eating (simply because you have no sodium allotment left) I'm sure - CERTAIN - that I'll be indulging in celebrations for Thanksgiving and the Christmas season. So I think I'm going to switch to maintenance for the short upcoming term. Staying within +/- 5 pounds seems more doable to me than a steady loss during the holidays.

    Does anyone else share my Holiday pain? I'd love to read some of your strategies for getting through them without gaining large amountss of weight.
  • bradkcrew
    bradkcrew Posts: 1,720 Member
    @hippysprout I am also in deep contemplation about how to handle the holidays, especially Thanksgiving which is looming.

    Do I stay on course and just put a piece of turkey breast on my plate (because there will be nothing else that will be workable) and treat it like any other day, or do I just take the day and eat? The problem is, if I do that, will I be able to just pick up the next day, or will I spiral? I really don't know....
  • brandi_84
    brandi_84 Posts: 1,963 Member
    Thinking about the holidays, too.A few years back, while I was dieting in the fall and actually having success, I got so used to having smaller portions that I just wasn't hungry enough to over eat without feeling sick. I tried a little of everything and actually had a loss the next day. My goal right now is to get back to the smaller portions so I will naturally eat less Thanksgiving. But this time around it has been harder to deal with the smaller portions and not feel like I am going to starve. My other issue is that, I feel guilty for wasting food and will eat to make it go away. So I am trying to find the solution for all the leftovers.
    I'm good at maintaining, though.
    But it is to the point that it is now or never for me to lose weight or when it actually becomes a serious health problem.
  • MWMstr17
    MWMstr17 Posts: 1,354 Member
    I'm switching to maintenance next term, and generally thinking of a cheat day per week. That's essentially a cheat dinner out with drinks for me. I'm with you on sodium, and have written off many frozen meals I really like, but they're 30%-plus on sodium. Some as high as 45%. For the holidays, I try everything made, but try to limit portions. One big plate, but no second plate, etc.
  • hippysprout
    hippysprout Posts: 1,446 Member
    @bradkcrew I'm the same, it's not about indulging for the day, I've been known to continue indulging once I start, often for the same reason @brandi_84 mentions: waste not, want not. The smaller portion thing makes a lot of sense. We had a birthday celebration not long ago and I indulged way more than I intended and I was so miserable and my stomach hurt and I wanted to vomit. I just didn't care for that at all, and it was a good lesson learned.

    My real dragon to slay isn't just Thanksgiving Day. The holiday parties are already starting here. We had a Halloween party yesterday at work, there's another one this weekend, and then November 15th begins the Thanksgiving season around here. Work parties, Friendsgiving dinners, Thanksgiving with the extended families... I'm literally having five Thanksgiving dinners this year. I'm considering bringing fruit platters and healthy side dishes to most of them as a contribution just so there are reasonable options for me to eat. I can survive one Thanksgiving meal, but five big indulgences might just train my tummy to tolerate those massive meals again and I'm also at the now or never point.

    @MWMstr17 Healthy Choice makes a lot of meals with reasonable sodium levels. I'm totally with you on ditching many frozen meals, it's appalling how much sodium is in them!
  • MWMstr17
    MWMstr17 Posts: 1,354 Member
    edited October 2021
    Been a tough ten days with family here until yesterday. Got leaves up and seed down, and went to gym for cardio.
    Gonna get back to a full gym day tmrw.

    In general, I think moderation works better mentally than deprivation, so tasting everything without over-doing it seems a workable compromise. If one views it as a day or three out of the whole year, then it's survivable no matter what havoc it wreaks on our choices. Even over the 40 days from Nov 20 to NYE, the damage from three no-worry days is limited if the other 37 days are tracked and under-calories. And some exercise is achieved.

    @hippysprout It's tough to exercise that type restraint so often, so I'd agree with bringing some better choices. Then perhaps just accept that you're going to enjoy 1-2 nice meals without guilt, and be more restrained for the non-essential food bombs that come your way. When people bring doughnuts to the office, I usually tell myself "I don't eat doughnuts" and walk away. It's easier than thinking "I'd like one, but I better not."
  • MWMstr17
    MWMstr17 Posts: 1,354 Member
    That's awesome! Congrats on your progress.
  • MWMstr17
    MWMstr17 Posts: 1,354 Member
    bradkcrew wrote: »
    Realistically my weight loss is going to slow down because I am close to maintenance, but I will shoot for 2 pounds down by Term 37 weigh in.

    My wife and I "debate" this all the time. I'm with you, in that I think the first XX pounds are prolly easier than the last XX pounds. She's more "it's a formula, and if you're doing the same, correct things, it is just as easy to lose 2# per week."

    We hear all the time "the last XX pounds are the hardest to lose." IMO, the body and it's weight-maintenance process is pretty complicated, and I could see cells and hormones, etc., changing a lot as body composition changes.

    So, whaddyathink? Actually physically harder, or do people typically relax after some success and stop doing the things necessary to keep losing 2# per week?

    Ever read anything scientific on this topic?
  • bradkcrew
    bradkcrew Posts: 1,720 Member
    MWMstr17 wrote: »
    bradkcrew wrote: »
    Realistically my weight loss is going to slow down because I am close to maintenance, but I will shoot for 2 pounds down by Term 37 weigh in.

    My wife and I "debate" this all the time. I'm with you, in that I think the first XX pounds are prolly easier than the last XX pounds. She's more "it's a formula, and if you're doing the same, correct things, it is just as easy to lose 2# per week."

    We hear all the time "the last XX pounds are the hardest to lose." IMO, the body and it's weight-maintenance process is pretty complicated, and I could see cells and hormones, etc., changing a lot as body composition changes.

    So, whaddyathink? Actually physically harder, or do people typically relax after some success and stop doing the things necessary to keep losing 2# per week?

    Ever read anything scientific on this topic?

    Honestly, I haven't found it to be any more difficult as time has passed/pounds have shed, and I will be coming up on 7 months next week of continual week after week weight loss. So, from my personal experience plateaus are not inevitable, and lowered metabolism/starvation mode from prolonged low calorie intake are also debatable theories. I do assume my weight loss will taper because I have been increasing my calories gradually, and have no idea how much body fat I actually have left.

    I have read/watched so many so called expert opinions and every time something sounds reasonable I hear something else that debunks it and sounds equally as reasonable. Bottom line there is no cut and dry truth and what is scripture today might be considered a crazy fad next year.
  • kylielynn314
    kylielynn314 Posts: 4,924 Member
    edited October 2021
    I wonder too if there are differences depending on gender, ie is it more likely for a guy to "be able to" maintain a steady loss where women tend to plateau more?
    Or maybe I just hope that. Lol
  • filmgal30
    filmgal30 Posts: 4,201 Member
    @MWMstr17 Yeah! Thank you! I got your messsge and figured it out. I had to log out then back in to see the join button. Tech solved. OR is that “mischief managed”? I’m not sure how active I can be (even though I did sign up for Term 37 because of some of my exercise/weight lifting restrictions still in place, but if I get accepted then I’ll try my best.
  • MWMstr17
    MWMstr17 Posts: 1,354 Member
    https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/how-does-the-human-body-burn-fat

    Good overview of fat cells in the body, and how limiting calories and increasing exercise help to reduce them.
  • hippysprout
    hippysprout Posts: 1,446 Member
    I think it's probably dependent on the subject. A person with 100lbs to lose will naturally take longer than someone with 20lbs to lose. It's got to be absolutely exhausting to continue cutting for a lengthy period. While I do absolutely agree that it's a formula, there are human factors that math doesn't consider. For instance, maybe I could continue to cut all holiday long, but will the mental toll be more than my resolve can pay? Am I willing to risk that? My literal future is at stake. Perhaps pausing is a better option if it means I can easily switch back to cutting after the new year. So, while it's math at the core, there is a human factor to consider.

    I also think that sustainable and healthy weight loss will naturally slow as you reach your goal. There isn't as much deficit room as you get to your healthy weight - at least not if you want to remain healthy. It's entirely possible to lose while eating less than the established minimum calories, but at the risk of your heart health. So... it slows near the end. It has to, or we eat the end of a double-edged sword.
  • MWMstr17
    MWMstr17 Posts: 1,354 Member
    Yea, there is definitely one question as to whether your own calorie deficit that works for you today, when you have more to lose, will continue to work the same as you reach a healthy maintenance weight.

    Then the second question is whether your norms work during the holidays, with or without acceptable efforts and stress.

  • MWMstr17
    MWMstr17 Posts: 1,354 Member
    Had this thought this morning........what if you purposefully decided now, or by Nov 20? which and how many "blow-off eating well days" you thought was allowable? Do that in advance, and maybe use it as incentive to work out more/harder in advance, etc.

    Then write yourself some coupons for that number of days, as a gift to yourself. You would have the benefit of deciding rationally what's best, prior to most temptations, and you would grant yourself permission, which should reduce stress.

    With three coupons, for example, instead of feeling stressed by the myriad temptations, you'd instead be thinking "Is this buffet of cheap sweets worth one of my tickets?"

    Mental trickery, but not that different from whatever you tell yourself to go work out when you don't really feel it.

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  • MWMstr17
    MWMstr17 Posts: 1,354 Member

    @pisanee I moved this here from ICY thread.........

    A lot of ATK episodes are on YouTube. The ATK website sub gets you download-ability of recipe steps, and written ingredient lists, etc. And there's an ATK app, so you can carry a recipe to the store for shopping, etc.

    This veggie chili makes three quarts (48-50oz) in my small crockpot. I found it online and have tinkered over time.

    Cans - all cans are typical 14.5-15 oz cans
    1 can diced tomatoes (seasoned or not. I use seasoned/fire roasted)
    1 can chili beans
    1 can black beans
    1 can sweet yellow corn (niblet, not cream style)

    Spices
    Pepper and salt to taste. I go low on salt.
    2 tbs chili powder
    1 tbs paprika
    1 tbs smoked paprika (Trader Joe's item here)
    half tsp cumin
    half tsp oregano
    1 bay leaf
    Texas Pete sauce, or your goto hot sauce, to taste (I do 4-5 good splashes)

    Chopped Veggies
    Mushrooms, usually 5-6 brown bella's depending on size
    Peppers, usually most/all of one bell pepper, or 5-6 of the smaller type
    Onion, usually half to whole of whatever we have
    The peppers and mushrooms shrink and soften a lot, so I cut them chunky. Onions are just for flavor.

    Process
    Strain tomatoes well
    Strain chili beans a little, but don't lose too much of flavorings/sauce
    Mix those two in pot, then add all the Spices stuff, and mix well
    Add all chopped veggies
    This is usually pretty full, until veggies cook down and shrink
    Rinse black beans well, and carefully mix into pot, as now it's really full
    Cook on high for ~2 hours until it's >170F, then put on low heat.
    I set a repeating timer for ~40 mins, and stir that often.
    Strain yellow corn well, and add one hour before serving. This is partly for lack of space until veggies shrink, and I don't like the corn to get mushy. The crunch of the corn counters the other broken-down veggies nicely. Nice color with the black beans too.

    That's the core recipe we've done many times. We've added chicken breast/tenderloins. Add at start and remove/shred/mix back in before serving.

  • bradkcrew
    bradkcrew Posts: 1,720 Member
    MWMstr17 wrote: »
    https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/how-does-the-human-body-burn-fat

    Good overview of fat cells in the body, and how limiting calories and increasing exercise help to reduce them.

    Interesting, because I have always read that fat cells were permanent!

    @MWMstr17 I do agree about making decisions regarding eating in advance, and then allowing a guilt free meal/day. I am starting to lean toward a pass day for Thanksgiving. Fortunately I will be eating at my brother's, so no concern about temptation past the single meal.

  • pisanee
    pisanee Posts: 1,845 Member
    @MWMstr17 Thanks! This looks awesome. I need to go to the market now, as we are low on fresh veg.
  • brandi_84
    brandi_84 Posts: 1,963 Member
    Please remind me...Are we getting Owls next week? because I'm super excited for next term.