BTW This is what REAL Media Bias Looks Like
Azdak
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Taken from -- where else --Fox News
Note the imperceptible change between October and November, even with the 0.4% drop. Oh, you say, that's just a small change, not enough to affect the graphic.
Except......look and Feb and March where the HIGHER numbers actually are shown to be LOWER than the 8.6% achieved in November.
Here's what the chart SHOULD look like:
I usually don't even bother with this stuff, and I think the headline "Fox deliberately posts lies" has become as self-evident as "Sun Rises in East", but I thought this was funny.
Note the imperceptible change between October and November, even with the 0.4% drop. Oh, you say, that's just a small change, not enough to affect the graphic.
Except......look and Feb and March where the HIGHER numbers actually are shown to be LOWER than the 8.6% achieved in November.
Here's what the chart SHOULD look like:
I usually don't even bother with this stuff, and I think the headline "Fox deliberately posts lies" has become as self-evident as "Sun Rises in East", but I thought this was funny.
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Idiocracy in the making0
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I love the irony that people think they're getting the REAL news from Fox. "This is what the liberal media won't say!" Well they're right about that. Because it's a pack of lies.
Fox News is biased in such a blatant and disgusting way. A number of current presidential candidates had to get off the Fox News payroll before they could legally run for president. Think about that for a minute. Republican presidential candidates on the Fox News payroll.
How can they accuse the rest of the media of bias! It's not like Obama or Pelosi was ever a CNN employee! And if they were Fox News would pretend it was the end of the world while neglecting to mention the checks they cut to Palin, Huckabee and Gingrich. For seemingly no reason by the way.
It's just such OBVIOUS bull. Anyone falling for it must willingly shut off their brains so they can hear what they want from their "news". Do me a favor. Just look in the mirror and tell yourself you're pretty so we can get this propaganda nonsense off the airwaves already.0 -
That's hilarious. Mind games, smoke and mirrors. It's unfortunate that some people will only watch Fox News and think it's the "real" news. If you want balanced media, watch Fox News and CNN then try real hard to figure out for yourself what's going on.0
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Fox News makes me want to throw things at the TV... for the safety of my TV (and my brain cells) I simply cannot watch it!! So I miss out on the precious gems like these... lol.0
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That's pretty sad.
Let's not fool ourselves, though, and assert that the other networks aren't biased.0 -
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That's pretty sad.
Let's not fool ourselves, though, and assert that the other networks aren't biased.
There's a difference between "bias" and outright lies.
We all have "bias", based on everything that we are, all that we have learned, everything we have experienced, etc. In every decision we make throughout our lives, we exhibit "bias".
Any media enterprise, despite their best efforts is going to exhibit "bias". Primarily because there are human beings involved. A newspaper decides not only how to write a story, but what picture to use, where it appears on the page, etc. All of these decisions, no matter how objective one tries to be, will reflect "bias" in one form or another.
In addition, the news media has it's own culture and personality. There is a competitiveness to be "first" to break a story. News outlets tend to follow a 'narrative" that develops out of each news story or incident--not out of political bias, but out of laziness and because they think they are "giving people what they want".
When people talk about "bias" in the media, they often are referring to some suspected "conspiracy", a conscious and planned effort to present only a certain viewpoint, or to distort facts and reality to present a false view that supports a specific agenda or ideology. That's much more insidious, and fairly infrequent.
Sometimes this can be relatively benign: Doing news features on Pearl Harbor, for example, on ABC to generate interest in a new Disney "Pearl Harbor" movie, for example (although one could make the case that is not "benign" at all, and I would certainly listen).
But, in one place in particular, there is documented evidence that the people running the news (not the opinion shows like O'Reilly, Hannity, et al) DO consciously lie and distort the facts to support one political party or ideology. That is Fox News. From memos from the VP of news operations specifically outlining how news stories are to be slanted, to identifying disgraced republicans as "Democrats" on numerous occasions, by constantly showing distorted graphics like the one I displayed--the list goes on and on.
So while you might assert that "other networks" also show "bias", you will need to show a lot more evidence to maintain your comparative trivialization that "everybody does it".
Because, while other media outlets are not pure, NO ONE "does it" like Fox.0 -
FOX news is successful because it tells people what they want to hear and they do something very well, they always play the victim. The "liberal" media, this huge hulking menace we always hear about is what exactly? Doesn't FOX triple the prime time ratings of CNN and MSNBC combined? I thought they did. And isn't about 90% of talk radio right leaning or all the way conservative? I'm not saying certain news agencies don't lean left, but FOX has fallen over to the right to the point I completely quit watching it unless I want to laugh. Besides, it's not even news most of the time. Fox and Friends is bullcrap and takes up the whole morning, and from 5 to 10 pm, prime time, it's all opinion. Why should I care what Bill O'Reilly's opinion is on something. It's just a high class Jerry Springer show.0
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That's pretty sad.
Let's not fool ourselves, though, and assert that the other networks aren't biased.
Agreed.
A liberal leaning network is going to push agenda items that are important for their party, the same with conservative networks.0 -
I agree with everything Azdak and Adrian just said except this part: "It's just a high class Jerry Springer show. " It's not high class. People of class don't delve into the pseudo-intellectual and then spew it off onto others as if they were actually knowledgeable.0
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While, I don't like misleading figures, I do think it is possible that the last point on the plot was 'not intentional' as it looks like it is a copy of the point before it. Yeah but it irritates me.
I have seen misleading plots on other networks, not just Fox. Sometimes, the plots are correct, but the underlying assumptions are misleading, and that irritates me too.0 -
I don't watch the news at all on TV unless there is something "live" happening. I used to watch, all the time. I got tired of the talking heads telling me how to think and this is a prime example of what they do.0
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But if Fox didn't do this kind of stuff, what would Jon Stewart have to talk about?0
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