Derailing, dismissing, and undermining
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DoingItNow2012
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I love the idea of this group. I thouroughly enjoy a healthy debate. However, there are Common tactics I see used to throw off a debate, instead of earnestly trying to understand another's point of view. I found an article that I think is dead on, even though it is satire. I wonder how many you will be able to identify others or even yourself using?
Here s the link.
http://www.derailingfordummies.com/
I also pasted the categorized version below.
You know how it is. You’re enjoying yourself, kicking back and relaxing at the pub or maybe at the library; or maybe you’re in class or just casually surfing the internet, indulging in a little conversation. The topic of the conversation is about a pertinent contemporary issue, probably something to do with a group of people who fall outside your realm of experience and identity. They’re also probably fairly heavily discriminated against - or so they claim.
The thing is, you’re having a good time, sharing your knowledge about these people and their issues. This knowledge is incontrovertible - it’s been backed up in media representation, books, research and lots and lots of historical events, also your own unassailable sense of being right.
Yet all of a sudden something happens to put a dampener on your sharing of your enviable intellect and incomparable capacity to fully perceive and understand All Things. It’s someone who belongs to the group of people you’re discussing and they’re Not Very Happy with you. Apparently, they claim, you’ve got it all wrong and they’re offended about that. They might be a person of colour, or a queer person. Maybe they’re a woman, or a person with disability. They could even be a trans person or a sex worker. The point is they’re trying to tell you they know better than you about their issues and you know that’s just plain wrong. How could you be wrong?
Don’t worry though! There IS something you can do to nip this potentially awkward and embarrassing situation in the bud. By simply derailing the conversation, dismissing their opinion as false and ridiculing their experience you can be sure that they continue to be marginalised and unheard and you can continue to look like the expert you know you really are, deep down inside!
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU HAVE PRIVILEGE!
Just follow this step-by-step guide to Conversing with Marginalised People™ and in no time at all you will have a fool-proof method of derailing every challenging conversation you may get into, thus reaping the full benefits of every privilege that you have.
The best part is, you don't even have to be a white, heterosexual, cisgendered, cissexual, upper-class male to enjoy the full benefits of derailing conversation! Nope, you can utilise the lesser-recognised tactic of Horizontal Hostility to make sure that, despite being a member of a Marginalised Group™ yourself, you can exercise a privilege another Marginalised Group™ doesn't have in order not to heed their experience!
Read on, and learn, and remember… you don’t have to use these in any particular order! In fact, mixing them up can really keep those Marginalised People™ on their toes! After all, they are pretty much used to hearing this stuff, so you don’t want to get too predictable or they’ll get lazy!
DERAIL USING EDUCATION
If You Won't Educate Me How Can I Learn
If You Cared About These Matters You'd Be Willing To Educate Me
DERAIL USING DISTRACTION
A In B Situation Is Not Equivalent To X In Y Situation
I'm Just Saying What Other People Believe. I Never Said I Agree
I Said SOME Marginalised People Do That, Not ALL
Aren't You Treating Each Other Worse Anyway
DERAIL USING HUMOUR
It's Only The Internet!
Surprise! I Was Playing “Devil’s Advocate” All Along!
DERAIL USING ANGER
You're Being Hostile
You've Lost Your Temper So I Don't Have To Listen To You Anymore
You Are Damaging Your Cause By Being Angry
DERAIL USING RETALIATION
Your Experience Is Not Representative Of Everyone
You Have An Agenda
Unless You Can Prove Your Experience Is Widespread I Won't Believe It
You Have A False Consciousness
But It's True!
Don't You Have More Important Issues To Think About
You're Just Suffering Privilege Envy
Well I Know Another Person From Your Group Who Disagrees!
You're Not Being A Team Player
DERAIL USING ENTITLEMENT
But That Happens To Me Too!
Anything You Can Do - NEW!
But I'm Not Like That - Stop Stereotyping!
But If It's Okay For Marginalised People To Use Those Words, Why Can't I?
"It's A Conspiracy!"
Who Wins Gold in the Oppression Olympics?
DERAIL USING EMOTION
You're Taking Things Too Personally
You're Being Overemotional
You're Just Oversensitive
DERAIL USING INTELLECTUALISM
You’re Not Being Intellectual Enough/You’re Being Overly Intellectual
You're Interrogating From The Wrong Perspective
You're Arguing With Opinions Not Fact
DERAIL USING PERSONAL ATTACKS
You're As Bad As They Are
You Just Enjoy Being Offended
Being Offended Is Great For You
I Don't Think You're As Marginalised As You Claim
But You're Different To The Others
Here s the link.
http://www.derailingfordummies.com/
I also pasted the categorized version below.
You know how it is. You’re enjoying yourself, kicking back and relaxing at the pub or maybe at the library; or maybe you’re in class or just casually surfing the internet, indulging in a little conversation. The topic of the conversation is about a pertinent contemporary issue, probably something to do with a group of people who fall outside your realm of experience and identity. They’re also probably fairly heavily discriminated against - or so they claim.
The thing is, you’re having a good time, sharing your knowledge about these people and their issues. This knowledge is incontrovertible - it’s been backed up in media representation, books, research and lots and lots of historical events, also your own unassailable sense of being right.
Yet all of a sudden something happens to put a dampener on your sharing of your enviable intellect and incomparable capacity to fully perceive and understand All Things. It’s someone who belongs to the group of people you’re discussing and they’re Not Very Happy with you. Apparently, they claim, you’ve got it all wrong and they’re offended about that. They might be a person of colour, or a queer person. Maybe they’re a woman, or a person with disability. They could even be a trans person or a sex worker. The point is they’re trying to tell you they know better than you about their issues and you know that’s just plain wrong. How could you be wrong?
Don’t worry though! There IS something you can do to nip this potentially awkward and embarrassing situation in the bud. By simply derailing the conversation, dismissing their opinion as false and ridiculing their experience you can be sure that they continue to be marginalised and unheard and you can continue to look like the expert you know you really are, deep down inside!
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU HAVE PRIVILEGE!
Just follow this step-by-step guide to Conversing with Marginalised People™ and in no time at all you will have a fool-proof method of derailing every challenging conversation you may get into, thus reaping the full benefits of every privilege that you have.
The best part is, you don't even have to be a white, heterosexual, cisgendered, cissexual, upper-class male to enjoy the full benefits of derailing conversation! Nope, you can utilise the lesser-recognised tactic of Horizontal Hostility to make sure that, despite being a member of a Marginalised Group™ yourself, you can exercise a privilege another Marginalised Group™ doesn't have in order not to heed their experience!
Read on, and learn, and remember… you don’t have to use these in any particular order! In fact, mixing them up can really keep those Marginalised People™ on their toes! After all, they are pretty much used to hearing this stuff, so you don’t want to get too predictable or they’ll get lazy!
DERAIL USING EDUCATION
If You Won't Educate Me How Can I Learn
If You Cared About These Matters You'd Be Willing To Educate Me
DERAIL USING DISTRACTION
A In B Situation Is Not Equivalent To X In Y Situation
I'm Just Saying What Other People Believe. I Never Said I Agree
I Said SOME Marginalised People Do That, Not ALL
Aren't You Treating Each Other Worse Anyway
DERAIL USING HUMOUR
It's Only The Internet!
Surprise! I Was Playing “Devil’s Advocate” All Along!
DERAIL USING ANGER
You're Being Hostile
You've Lost Your Temper So I Don't Have To Listen To You Anymore
You Are Damaging Your Cause By Being Angry
DERAIL USING RETALIATION
Your Experience Is Not Representative Of Everyone
You Have An Agenda
Unless You Can Prove Your Experience Is Widespread I Won't Believe It
You Have A False Consciousness
But It's True!
Don't You Have More Important Issues To Think About
You're Just Suffering Privilege Envy
Well I Know Another Person From Your Group Who Disagrees!
You're Not Being A Team Player
DERAIL USING ENTITLEMENT
But That Happens To Me Too!
Anything You Can Do - NEW!
But I'm Not Like That - Stop Stereotyping!
But If It's Okay For Marginalised People To Use Those Words, Why Can't I?
"It's A Conspiracy!"
Who Wins Gold in the Oppression Olympics?
DERAIL USING EMOTION
You're Taking Things Too Personally
You're Being Overemotional
You're Just Oversensitive
DERAIL USING INTELLECTUALISM
You’re Not Being Intellectual Enough/You’re Being Overly Intellectual
You're Interrogating From The Wrong Perspective
You're Arguing With Opinions Not Fact
DERAIL USING PERSONAL ATTACKS
You're As Bad As They Are
You Just Enjoy Being Offended
Being Offended Is Great For You
I Don't Think You're As Marginalised As You Claim
But You're Different To The Others
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This is great, thanks! Though they are missing that one should escalate in the name calling and stereotyping to really try to get one's point across, at least that's what I've been experiencing more lately, like they are going to try and escalate the language to beat me into submission of their view.0
