Big Guys- Road Bike Wheels

cyclingben
cyclingben Posts: 346 Member
Any suggestions. I finally have broken spoke(s) on my road bike i got bought new in Febuary. I have put around 600 miles on it so far. Cannondale Synapse - Aluminum.... I started riding it at 340 now im down to 300ish - Goal weight is 250

Any suggestions for aftermarket or custom made wheels. The bike shop said they could custom make some wheels that would be stronger than any aftermarket wheels for around $500

I do have a warranty on the bike and they will replace as many spokes as needed within the 3 yr period but last thing i want to do is pop another spoke 10 miles from my house.

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  • beachgrad05
    beachgrad05 Posts: 85 Member
    I belong to bikeforums.net and there are always discussions in the Clydes / Athena's forum about wheels.

    Here is one such discussion:

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/792140-Will-the-stock-wheels-on-a-2011-Synapse-Carbon-6-be-OK-under-my-250lb-body?highlight=Wheels
  • zoom2
    zoom2 Posts: 934 Member
    Which wheels...my first road bike was a Synapse and I broke a rear spoke...and this was at maybe 145#s. They were just low-rent wheels.

    My DH has been in the 200-250# range (depending upon season, in part) during his cycling career. He builds his own wheels. Prior to that he purchased a sturdier pair than what came on his Spec. Roubaix.
  • katozdad
    katozdad Posts: 296 Member
    I had a similar problem with my bike. The roads in my area are really bad with lots of potholes. I have since learned that if you buy your bike off the shelf, i.e. No customisation etc. Then you will usually just get the standard wheel that is normally factory built. I missed a trick by not asking the shop to check the spokes for the proper tension, which may be the route of your woes. That said, I would suggest that you go back to your bike shop and ask them to rebuild the same wheel (unless your rim is bent) with a fresh set of spokes. This would effectively be a custom build, but re-using the parts that you already own. I suggest a fresh set of spokes, because the ones you have, will already have undergone greater stress as a result of your existing spokes popping. If you just replace spoke as they pop then then you are just delaying the inevitable re-build (as the remaining spokes are more likely to pop). If you still get problems, then like me, I would suggest getting a hub with a greater number of spokes. Most 'off the shelf' bikes will come with 36 spokes, but you should be able to get a 38 spoke wheel built easy enough. If you want to go for a 40 spoke hub or more then you may have to get a specialist hub. I have had a 38 spoke wheel built and my LBS did not charge for labour because I bought a new hub and rim for it. I have also had my 36 spoke wheel re-built as a back up in case the other has to go back in the shop, but to date (approx 2 months) I have not needed to use it.

    A few final points...
    Just because you get an expensive bike, it does not mean that the wheel has been built to a high standard.
    Bikes are generally marketed at cyclists that don't weigh as much as you or I, and therefore the weight of the bike is a key factor for marketing, less spokes = less weight = a faster bike = a more unreliable bike for the big guys.
    Potholes in roads and going up and down kerbs can actually be more demanding for a bike than a dirt track (don't want to offend any dirt bike riders out there but I am talking about the average 200lb plus rider here, just to keep it in perspective).

    Hope you found this useful.
  • diddidit
    diddidit Posts: 18
    I'm guessing your Synapse has the basic Shimano 16 spoke front/20 spoke rear wheelset. They're surprisingly strong, but with that low spoke count they don't have margin for error. You being a big guy, you need that margin.

    Have a shop build you some bombproof wheels - Velocity Dyad rims, 36 quality spokes (Wheelsmith or DT, or Sapim if you're feeling spendy), and Shimano 105 or Ultegra hubs. They won't be the lightest thing ever, but they'll see you down to whatever weight you hope to get to. That'd probably be in the $500-$600 range. I've got a similar set on my road bike, using Mavic CXP22 rims. The advantage of the Dyad rims is that they're wider, and would work really well with a 28mm wide tire. I have the Dyads on my tandem, which I've done a couple of gravel road races on.

    By the way, I highly recommend those 28mm tires - Continental Gatorskins or Rivendell Ruffy Tuffys. You can run them at a bit lower pressure (100-110 psi, instead of 125 for the 23mm tires), which will cushion things a bit for you and your bike.

    Good luck - and enjoy the MS150!

    did
  • cyclingben
    cyclingben Posts: 346 Member
    Thanks, I talked to my LBS and they are going to make me a set of velocity wheels that are fat man proof with ultegra hubs. $499 then im going to wrap them with gator skins. I have gatorskins now and i haven't had any flats since i changed my tires to those. They are also re-spoking my original wheels for free "warranty" for a back up. The best part of custom rims - Mine are going to be Bright Red and one of a kind like me.

    I'll post some pics and give you guys some updates on how they hold up. Hopefully he will have them built next week.
  • zoom2
    zoom2 Posts: 934 Member
    Red rims...that's hot! :drinker:
  • TheBigYin
    TheBigYin Posts: 5,686 Member
    Coming to the party late (as usual !) and I'm glad you've got sorted - personally, I've destroyed a pair of the 105 level factory wheels (not actually 105 hubs, but the bladed straight pull spoke ones) when I was heavier (around 380/390lb!) - strangely enough, not by breaking spokes, but by ripping the hub to bits... The spoke actually fractured the hub slot, and pulled out!! Took 'em back to LBS, and they did a no-messing about refund, then recommended a pair of Fulcrum Racing 5's. They've done maybe 13,500 miles now, never broken a spoke, though a couple have come loose and needed re-truing. They're now pretty much knackered though - rims are worn to the wear indicators on the braking surface at the front, and the rear has a couple of small cracks appearing in the rim around 2-3 of the spoke holes. Shame really, as the hubs are pretty much pristine, smooth as a freshly greased guillimot. I've a pair of Ultegra factor wheels sat ready to fit, as summer wheels, once the monsoon season ends.

    I'll be in the market for some winter hack wheels soon enough though, and I'm thinking that this time I'm going to go for a build-job rather than factory... Probably a pair of Mavic Open Pro-CD's 32h front 36h rear and a pair of Hope Hubs I reckon. Being MTB derived road hubs, they're really well sealed for winter use, and cartridge bearings which I can stick ceramic cartridges in when they DO wear!.
  • cohophysh
    cohophysh Posts: 288
    I belong to bikeforums.net and there are always discussions in the Clydes / Athena's forum about wheels.

    Here is one such discussion:

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/792140-Will-the-stock-wheels-on-a-2011-Synapse-Carbon-6-be-OK-under-my-250lb-body?highlight=Wheels
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    Hey, you are you in BF????]
  • cohophysh
    cohophysh Posts: 288
    I have Velocity Deep V's 36 spoke double butted
  • cloggsy71
    cloggsy71 Posts: 2,208 Member
    I've a pair of Ultegra factor wheels sat ready to fit, as summer wheels, once the monsoon season ends.

    When's that? Next March :sad:
  • Ant_M76
    Ant_M76 Posts: 534 Member
    Handbuilts, with a 36H rear hub. If you ping a spoke on a 36 spoke wheel it isn't ride over, assuming you can adjust the adjacent spokes to compensate. This happened to me last summer and I rode another 60+ miles on it, after tweaking the spokes next door. Anything less than 36H and it's game over, imho.
  • TheBigYin
    TheBigYin Posts: 5,686 Member
    When's that? Next March :sad:

    It's looking that way at the moment isn't it... I wimped out today, I'm afraid - 2 days/80 miles on the trainer was enough for me - forecast looks half-reasonable for tomorrow - but not good enough for the new wheels, that's for certain...
  • cyclingben
    cyclingben Posts: 346 Member
    My guy at the LBS said they are ordered and should be ready before the MS ride next weekend.
  • beachgrad05
    beachgrad05 Posts: 85 Member

    Hey, you are you in BF????]

    Assume you are asking who I am in BF... I go by same name there as here: beachgrad05 :glasses:
  • fireguy286
    fireguy286 Posts: 14 Member
    I have fulcrum racing 5's, seem really sturdy to me. No broken spokes either. I am 235 approx. fyi
  • TheBigYin
    TheBigYin Posts: 5,686 Member
    I have fulcrum racing 5's, seem really sturdy to me. No broken spokes either. I am 235 approx. fyi

    I put a lot of it down to the double-spokeing on the drive side of the rear wheel. I'm sorely tempted to get a set of the new Racing 5CX's as my winter wheels - they're pretty much the same as the normal 5's, but with a slightly deeper "well" in the rim, to ease tyre swapping (good for cyclocross, but also for winter riding puncture fairy visits), and better bearing seals (again, all the better for a set of winter wheels)> They're really lovely wheels - I far prefer the Fulcrum products to the "real" Campagnolo branded wheels tbh... I never have trusted those "grouped spokings" on the Zonda's/Bora's - even in the highly unlikely event that I get under 80kg, I doubt I'd trust that much unsupported/untensioned rim length...
  • fireguy286
    fireguy286 Posts: 14 Member
    Agree on the grouped spokes, I haven't even seen Campagnolo branded wheels around here in a long time. I do have one from the 90's on my old road bike. Maybe because I live in Canada, not as common.
  • TheBigYin
    TheBigYin Posts: 5,686 Member
    I've still some lovely traditional Campag Wheels up in the loft.

    Classic Record s/f q/r hubs, 28h Mavic GP4's (iirc... they could be Fiamme Yellows - it's been a while!), and - this dates it - a Regina America 13-21 6 speed freewheel. I'm keeping them, in the hope that I'll eventually get the rest of the "period parts" for a bike eligeable to ride L'Eroica...

    Though the 13-21 will DEFINITELY need swapping out for something a little more "Hill Friendly"
  • cyclingben
    cyclingben Posts: 346 Member
    well they came in, i only rode around the parking lot today but feel good. Plus its nice to know i have a back up with my old ones.
    I guess i will really get to put them to the test this weekend on the MS ride.

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