Doing the right thing?

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  • kit_katty
    kit_katty Posts: 992 Member
    From the looks of the video, they had no idea why the toddler was crying, maybe they didn't even notice he WAS crying.

    It would have been nice if they had given him the ball, but to me, they're still not under any obligation to.
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    Thank god there wasn't 2 crying children.
  • BigDaddyBRC
    BigDaddyBRC Posts: 2,395 Member
    Here's how I see it...

    Normal good gesture is to give the kid the ball. That being said...watch the video again. The couple dont appear to see the kid reaching out for it, initially. With that in mind. Why should they think they need to give it to the kid?

    Did you see the guy holding the passed out kid at the Giants game that missed the ball? Was he *****ing that he didnt get the ball though no one was within 54 seats of him...No.

    So rather then continue to pussify our kids. Let him grow some skin.
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    Here's how I see it...

    Normal good gesture is to give the kid the ball. That being said...watch the video again. The couple dont appear to see the kid reaching out for it, initially. With that in mind. Why should they think they need to give it to the kid?

    Did you see the guy holding the passed out kid at the Giants game that missed the ball? Was he *****ing that he didnt get the ball though no one was within 54 seats of him...No.

    So rather then continue to pussify our kids. Let him grow some skin.

    We now know it's a moot point in this particular case, but the general idea that expressing elementary politeness is now considered "pussification" --and to a 3 yr old at that--is beyond absurd.
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    We now know it's a moot point in this particular case, but the general idea that expressing elementary politeness is now considered "pussification" --and to a 3 yr old at that--is beyond absurd.
    Agreed!
  • DoingItNow2012
    DoingItNow2012 Posts: 424 Member
    I don't think it is an issue of right or wrong, even if they did see him. It may have been nice, but certainly no obligation. Besides experience is subjective. Just because the kid was crying doesn't mean it meant more to him than the couple. In the end it is the couple's RIGHT and choice to decide what they do with the ball they caught. Guilt is just a manipulation technique used to violate the boundaries of others (at least when it's induced). :happy:
  • DoingItNow2012
    DoingItNow2012 Posts: 424 Member
    Thank god there wasn't 2 crying children.

    Then the ball would have to be split in half...:tongue:
  • adrian_indy
    adrian_indy Posts: 1,444 Member
    We now know it's a moot point in this particular case, but the general idea that expressing elementary politeness is now considered "pussification" --and to a 3 yr old at that--is beyond absurd.
    Agreed!

    yup
  • adrian_indy
    adrian_indy Posts: 1,444 Member
    I don't think it is an issue of right or wrong, even if they did see him. It may have been nice, but certainly no obligation. Besides experience is subjective. Just because the kid was crying doesn't mean it meant more to him than the couple. In the end it is the couple's RIGHT and choice to decide what they do with the ball they caught. Guilt is just a manipulation technique used to violate the boundaries of others (at least when it's induced). :happy:

    Who is arguing rights here? This isn't a civil liberty issue. And yes, guilt can be manipulated...especially if ou are guilty of something.
  • DoingItNow2012
    DoingItNow2012 Posts: 424 Member
    I don't think it is an issue of right or wrong, even if they did see him. It may have been nice, but certainly no obligation. Besides experience is subjective. Just because the kid was crying doesn't mean it meant more to him than the couple. In the end it is the couple's RIGHT and choice to decide what they do with the ball they caught. Guilt is just a manipulation technique used to violate the boundaries of others (at least when it's induced). :happy:

    Who is arguing rights here? This isn't a civil liberty issue. And yes, guilt can be manipulated...especially if ou are guilty of something.

    It was a play on the title "Doing the RIGHT thing". That's all, not that deep. Oh and I think you can be influenced to feel guilty when you are not. Think of a child who is abused, but is made to feel as if they are the one that did something wrong or if they tell they will be the reason so and so..... That is a little extreme for an example, but just making a point. The debate can continue without derailment. :flowerforyou:
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    I still see no problem in "expecting" people to be kind. So, we're not legally obligated to be kind, generous, or selfless, but shouldn't we hope or expect some of this? Just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    Thank god there wasn't 2 crying children.

    Then the ball would have to be split in half...:tongue:

    Nah we would just say we were going to split the ball in half and then see which child cared enough about the ball to keep it intact by letting the other have it. Then we would give it to them ;)
  • atsteele
    atsteele Posts: 1,358 Member
    It looks to me like the couple who caught the ball didn't have a clue that the little boy next to them was crying. I doubt that they did it purposely. Or that they were simply insensitive. Secondly, the kid looks about 3yo. 3yo's cry about everything that doesn't go their way. This shouldn't even make the news.
  • nehtaeh
    nehtaeh Posts: 2,849 Member
    Thank god there wasn't 2 crying children.

    Then the ball would have to be split in half...:tongue:

    Nah we would just say we were going to split the ball in half and then see which child cared enough about the ball to keep it intact by letting the other have it. Then we would give it to them ;)

    This is my life with twins...two of everything, or they have to figure it out, which doesn't work so well all the time at the age of 4. I bet they are better off than singletons at the age of 4 though. :smile:
  • nehtaeh
    nehtaeh Posts: 2,849 Member
    It looks to me like the couple who caught the ball didn't have a clue that the little boy next to them was crying. I doubt that they did it purposely. Or that they were simply insensitive. Secondly, the kid looks about 3yo. 3yo's cry about everything that doesn't go their way. This shouldn't even make the news.

    Yes, yes they do.
  • DieVixen
    DieVixen Posts: 790 Member
    I just saw an interview with the parents of the little boy where they say the couple did infact offer the boy the ball when they noticed he was crying,but the parents turned it dowm. I think the only disgusting thing in this story is the treatment the couple are now getting from death threats to hate mail.
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    I think the only disgusting thing in this story is the treatment the couple are now getting from death threats to hate mail.
    Agreed. That's pathetic.
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    I think the only disgusting thing in this story is the treatment the couple are now getting from death threats to hate mail.
    Agreed. That's pathetic.

    This is a completely different topic, so I am going to keep it short, but I am completely dumbfounded as to what would drive someone to go after perfect strangers over something like this, and with such despicable language and hate.

    I think one of the casualties of the modern age of instant communication is a general loss of impulse control in many people.

    And the increased volume of hateful bile being spewed in public through various forms of media increasingly desensitizes us.

    There--that's 3 new topics.
  • nehtaeh
    nehtaeh Posts: 2,849 Member
    I think the only disgusting thing in this story is the treatment the couple are now getting from death threats to hate mail.
    Agreed. That's pathetic.

    This is a completely different topic, so I am going to keep it short, but I am completely dumbfounded as to what would drive someone to go after perfect strangers over something like this, and with such despicable language and hate.

    I think one of the casualties of the modern age of instant communication is a general loss of impulse control in many people.

    And the increased volume of hateful bile being spewed in public through various forms of media increasingly desensitizes us.

    There--that's 3 new topics.

    :drinker:
  • DoingItNow2012
    DoingItNow2012 Posts: 424 Member
    This is a completely different topic, so I am going to keep it short, but I am completely dumbfounded as to what would drive someone to go after perfect strangers over something like this, and with such despicable language and hate.

    I think one of the casualties of the modern age of instant communication is a general loss of impulse control in many people.

    And the increased volume of hateful bile being spewed in public through various forms of media increasingly desensitizes us.

    There--that's 3 new topics.

    Completely agree! People seem a lot more brave behind a computer screen. But then again, maybe it shows us their real heart. Scary and sad.
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
    This is a completely different topic, so I am going to keep it short, but I am completely dumbfounded as to what would drive someone to go after perfect strangers over something like this, and with such despicable language and hate.
    I think one of the casualties of the modern age of instant communication is a general loss of impulse control in many people.
    And the increased volume of hateful bile being spewed in public through various forms of media increasingly desensitizes us.

    I think there's always been "hate mail". I remember Andy Rooney saying he's always received it, long before computers and instant communication. I do believe society is becoming desensitized to expressions of hate. I remember when saying, "I hate you" was considered horrible.
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