Animal encounters?

what923
what923 Posts: 100 Member
So we camp out in the woods most weekends now. I take my long run on Saturdays. We go off county dirt roads that are near boat docks...no wussy electric/water sites but we do have a camper so I can shower after my run. Anyway- my story is headed out at 7am to try and beat the heat. On my warm up walk I decided I had 12 miles coming and should make one last attempt at a pit stop so I would go down to the next boat landing to use the out house.

I noticed on my walk in some pretty clear paws tracks heading out in the dirt that I thought possibly could be a wolf since it looked kind of a like a dogs but fairly large and longer nails. No more am I thinking about that as I turn the curve where I can see down to the dock and a large dog/wolf is laying on the big rock and stands up. He was about 200 feet out ahead of me. I was just staring trying to reason if this really was a wolf or just someones dog. It definitely looked like a wolf but I'm no expert so it had possibility to be just a larger husky type dog. Then it came off the rock and started to walk toward me. I had to yell a few times to get it to stop advancing. At this point I was still contemplating just going down there trying to convince myself it was someone's dog but I couldn't see around the curve to the campsite area. Then it proceeded to advance a few steps again- I yelled a few more times to get it to stop. This is now when I decided to retreat slowly backwards while picking up a few sizable rocks in case I needed to throw them to scare it.

This is what kind of stubborn person I am- I was not going to be derailed from my 12 miles. So I walked backwards til I was out back on the main dirt road and knowing it was just a mile or 2 to the paved road where at least there were houses every so often I went on with my mission. I only wore one earbud so I could hear, carried the rocks with me for a ways (until I heard a truck coming and I didn't want them to think I was nuts running with stones in my hands or that I might throw one at them so that's when I dropped my archaic weapons), and checked behind me a few times.

While the encounter definitely solved any need of using the restroom since my entire body was clenched in fear- I enjoyed my run and reminded myself that out of town I really needed to start grabbing my pepper spray. Others have told me when running on rural roads of crossing bears, etc. Just curious if anyone else wants to share their 'wildlife' experiences and of course give any pointers on how to handle such things.

I don't think I got carried away- I understand animals normally do not want to encounter us either BUT when they do I think I can never underestimate them since they could have young ones with them or could be injured- anything that might make them act aggressive. I certainly wouldn't turn and run either but yelling or throwing rocks and slowly moving backwards while watching them is what I understand to be a good approach. Sure my hubby is teasing me saying it was just a dog since people were tenting down there- but it never barked (which I found strange for a dog) and with my yelling I never saw any people come out. If it was a quiet morning who says a wolf might not be lounging by the lake ignoring the tents especially if no one was up making noise. By the time it was coming my way the second time I really didn't give two hoots if it was a dog- it was large and no owner near by so I err on the side of safety.

Let me know what you've survived - or heard/learned from others. Thanks for sharing- stay safe runners!

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  • leeapeea
    leeapeea Posts: 23 Member
    A wolf?!? Holy crap- where were you? Here in New England we have some coyotes (which, thankfully, I have NOT had an encounter with), but wolves haven't made a big resurgence yet.

    Most of my animal encounters have been with dogs, either on the owner's property or in the woods. I carry mace with me now, or when I'm with my boyfriend he'll find a big branch when we know we're approaching a property with aggressive dogs. I want to carry medals for people who use leashes or have properly trained dogs- good dog owners are my heroes.

    My favorite animal encounter was running through my local state forest last summer. It was a pretty dry summer so I took the opportunity to run a trail that's normally way to wet and buggy. I round a corner and stop short- 40 yards away is a young buck, just hanging out. He saw me, I saw him. We watched each other for a bit, then both slowly decided to move on. What a gorgeous creature.
  • jporche77
    jporche77 Posts: 32 Member
    Oh wow! That is scary and obviously I am a complete chicken because I would have turned around.


    I haven't encountered anything like that in Northern Virginia. The trail I run on we always have deer that run across it. I have to keep my eyes focused not to get knocked down.
  • RedRelish
    RedRelish Posts: 12 Member
    That's crazy! I had a wildlife encounter myself once, though not quite as wild as that. In the summer had ridden my bike out to a trail that goes along the *kitten* next to a river near my place, and about a mile or so in this big old black bear pops up out of nowhere in the field maybe one or two hundred metres away from me! I noticed she had a cub with her as well, and of course I knew that you don't mess around with a mama bear and her baby bears, no matter how gentle and harmless they look! So I just stopped and slowly backed away before turning around and deciding that it would be best to come back some other day. The things you run into in the great Canadian wilderness, I tells ya! :tongue:
  • danabrash
    danabrash Posts: 67
    I see deer all the time, it's really serene and I love it. What scares me are the pit bulls and other dogs that charge their fences or leashes when I run by. I'm afraid of either one of them will get out or if one owner doesn't actually restrict their dog. I've thought about pepper spray too for that reason. Something else to add to my Amphipod bat-belt I guess.
  • GeneveSparkles
    GeneveSparkles Posts: 283 Member
    I freaked out a couple weeks ago when a goose and its family was in my path and wouldn't move. It started doing it's attack dance, spreading it''s wings, ruffling its feathers, making weird noises and staring me down. It had it's baby geese with it so I knew it would attack me if it felt threatned. I had to wait until the family finally decided to get off the trail. I was especially freaked because I had just read a story about a swan killing some guy!!
  • what923
    what923 Posts: 100 Member
    leeapeea- I live in the upper peninsula of michigan so pretty close to Canada! Hunting center- so of course I know there are deer (everywhere!) and bears and wolves, coyotes, etc. Usually running around town and on the outskirts so don't expect too much close to civilization- although deer are rampant right in our city! Still a slight chance it could have been a similar looking breed of dog but I'm convinced by the mannerisms that it was a wolf. I'm sure it didn't help that we watched the movie The Grey last week (why I think I tried to presume it was a dog and not let my imagination run wild). We will be camping in the same area this weekend however I only have 6 on the books (it's a taper week). So I won't have to go too far from camp.

    I love the idea of carrying medals or even just Thank Yous to give to courteous dog owners! We should be rewarded- too many dumb people with the "oh he/she won't bite she just likes to bark" attitude....well EVERYONE thinks that about their dog until they do bite someone! I've just debated if I carry the pepper spray if it's appropriate to spray the dog or can I spray the owner too?!
  • leeapeea
    leeapeea Posts: 23 Member
    @what- amazing! As awesome as I feel it would be to see a big cat or a coyote on the trail, I'm just as glad to never have surprised something that *could* kill me. Be safe running around camp this weekend... and maybe take some pepper spray... and a camera... :-D

    And as for the bad dog owners? Don't I WISH. :-)
  • Colbyandsage
    Colbyandsage Posts: 751 Member
    Ya, I would of done the same thing! I was running last week and a HUGE bear popped out. I live in the country and run the back roads. I am used to seeing deer, I think there is a doe with her fawn right near the bear encounter so when I saw the weeds moving, I didn't think anything of it BUT a bear walked out. I stopped immediately, raised my arms to seem bigger (husband to me to do this) and I back tracked. Once I was out of range of him, I turned around and ran really fast!

    Alot of hikers carry bear spray which is a stronger pepper type spray. I do carry pepper spray in my spibelt.
  • blair_bear
    blair_bear Posts: 165
    <~~~ wolves don't scare me (he's actually a fake wolf, a malamute, but I won't tell him that. His ego is too big, it would crush him).
    Bears are a staple by me, but so are other people's unleashed, ill-behaved dogs. I always carry bear mace in my belt for either occasion.
    Funny story- I was running with my cousin(let's call him Frank) years ago. We started out in town and then he wanted to jog these wooded trails out of a state park near by. As we are running, him being easily distracted by even a peanut, he spots a wild turkey. He tells me he is going to sneak up on this wild turkey. I told him they are about as friendly as the geese who almost murdered us when we were 7, but he insisted. I climbed up a couple rocks as he "snuck up" on this turkey who clearly knew he was there the whole time just probably didn't think anyone was stupid enough to sneak up on it.
    The turkey waited until Frank was about 20 feet from him before it turned, opened it's wings and started chasing him. It was freaking hysterical, the turkey was making these awful war cries which were only muffled by Frank's high pitched girly screams. As Frank charged through the woods hurdeling logs and debris and getting smacked in the face by young tree brances I thought I heard him say "get the mace," but I was laughing to hard. Frank finally pulled himself together and jumped high, clinging to a tall rock formation where the turkey couldn't get him. The whole experience was priceless.
  • summertime_girl
    summertime_girl Posts: 3,945 Member
    I've come across deer quite a few times, and wild turkeys. And a skunk once!
  • Colbyandsage
    Colbyandsage Posts: 751 Member
    <~~~ wolves don't scare me (he's actually a fake wolf, a malamute, but I won't tell him that. His ego is too big, it would crush him).
    Bears are a staple by me, but so are other people's unleashed, ill-behaved dogs. I always carry bear mace in my belt for either occasion.
    Funny story- I was running with my cousin(let's call him Frank) years ago. We started out in town and then he wanted to jog these wooded trails out of a state park near by. As we are running, him being easily distracted by even a peanut, he spots a wild turkey. He tells me he is going to sneak up on this wild turkey. I told him they are about as friendly as the geese who almost murdered us when we were 7, but he insisted. I climbed up a couple rocks as he "snuck up" on this turkey who clearly knew he was there the whole time just probably didn't think anyone was stupid enough to sneak up on it.
    The turkey waited until Frank was about 20 feet from him before it turned, opened it's wings and started chasing him. It was freaking hysterical, the turkey was making these awful war cries which were only muffled by Frank's high pitched girly screams. As Frank charged through the woods hurdeling logs and debris and getting smacked in the face by young tree brances I thought I heard him say "get the mace," but I was laughing to hard. Frank finally pulled himself together and jumped high, clinging to a tall rock formation where the turkey couldn't get him. The whole experience was priceless.

    OMG! This sorry is hilarious! I am laughing so hard I am in tears... Thank u for the comic relief!
  • lesle1
    lesle1 Posts: 354 Member
    I've run into deer, turtles, foxes (one carrying a dead rabbit in it's mouth), and I had a run in with 2 turkeys. I was dumb enough to try to get a picture of them. It was raining. I had my tank top and shorts on. It was about 50 degrees. After I took the picture they decided to run with me. Every so often one would peck at my ankles. One guy stopped and took a picture of the crazy lady running in the rain with a turkey on both sides of her.
  • Nina9925
    Nina9925 Posts: 33
    I have really only had a dog come after me thank goodness, I always worry about animals when running on the back roads though
  • pdworkman
    pdworkman Posts: 1,342 Member
    The only animals that I have ever been threatened by are the two-legged variety, and a big off-leash dog (burmese mountain dog). I do carry bear spray to protect myself against them.

    I have seen a fox, coyote, rabbits, squirrels, deer, big and small birds, etc. This week I saw my first Baltimore Oriole. Very cool!
  • Mightytaco84
    Mightytaco84 Posts: 76 Member
    The only animal attack I've encounter was a 8 pound dog. I routinely see deer, rabbits, skunks, beavers, cats, and squirrels. Sometimes they're alive, sometimes they're dead. The most nuisance animals I've encountered by far are bugs. They're some sort of flying ants, maybe termites. I'm not an entomologist, so I'm not sure. This morning some kind of winged beast flew into my chin really hard.
  • derekjnichols
    derekjnichols Posts: 49 Member
    I run in a huge beautiful cemetery in downtown Buffalo. Somehow, there are two bucks living it. They follow walkers and runners, but have yet to attack. All I can think of is footage from "When Animals Attack" with deer ramming into people.
  • pdworkman
    pdworkman Posts: 1,342 Member
    yeah, a big ol' grasshopper or bumblebee in the mouth you do not want!
    The only animal attack I've encounter was a 8 pound dog. I routinely see deer, rabbits, skunks, beavers, cats, and squirrels. Sometimes they're alive, sometimes they're dead. The most nuisance animals I've encountered by far are bugs. They're some sort of flying ants, maybe termites. I'm not an entomologist, so I'm not sure. This morning some kind of winged beast flew into my chin really hard.
  • mlb929
    mlb929 Posts: 1,974 Member
    I've encountered many things out running, rattlesnake probably unnerved me the most - as I almost stepped on it and my then 11 yo stopped on the other side of it. Fortunately, he's totally a snake expert (has pet snakes and knows what to do correctly) and we were able to resolve that.

    I actually carry a firearm for the things that I encounter. I had a guy send his dogs out to chase me down one day, I was ready to shoot the dog if it didn't stop advancing. I'm well trained, and know when such force would be necessary.

    I grew up near cougar and bear in the area and am not generally unnerved by such incidents. I don't believe you can ever be too careful or too cautious.
  • marnijojo
    marnijojo Posts: 235 Member
    I nearly creamed a llama one morning when I went out before dawn. Believe me, he was just as surprised as I was! Needless to say, I no longer go out before the first shred of light.
  • trail_turtle
    trail_turtle Posts: 42 Member
    Moose may be funny-looking, but are crazy-unpredictable.

    The time I encountered one on the trail, I was with someone else and we were talking--apparently startling it as we rounded a bend into a stream hollow. I didn't even see the moose until it started to run up the hill--about 25 feet away from us. We were lucky it retreated--I've met others who were charged by moose.

    (Karl Meltzer's front-of-the-pack encounter with a moose (related in his blog) at Bighorn 100 a few years ago was downright scary!)

    I've seen moose several times, now, but that was the one time it would have been close enough to reach me, if it wanted to.
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    I routinely see skunks and raccoons out foraging on garbage day (the urban jungle seems to suit raccoons, some of the males I've seen are huge - fortunately they're have little interest in humans) but the most worrisome I've come across are geese, it's not advisable to get between a mother and her goslings and I've had to adjust my route on occasion.
  • leeapeea
    leeapeea Posts: 23 Member
    Thought of this thread this weekend when I was running in Sunapee, NH on trails and two does came crashing through the woods crossing the trail right in front of me! The runners ahead must have spooked them. If I was 2 seconds faster I might have been pummeled by hooves, but luckily I was taking it easy. :-) Always have to watch for crossing traffic- even in the woods!
  • andrea9873
    andrea9873 Posts: 171 Member
    last night i encountered 2 deer and a fox, the deer kept going but the fox stopped and appeared to come closer as i approached.
  • MelisRunning
    MelisRunning Posts: 819 Member
    What scares me are the Pit Bulls! They do not have a leash law where I live in rural Mississippi and the Pit Bull seems to be the dog of choice right now~spooky! Those things come out of no where and they do not bark to let you know they are coming! Surprise!!! Here I am! Let's see how fast you can run!!! (after 12 miles or so, not very!). I have encountered skunks, raccoon, deer, snakes etc. but the Pit Bulls are the ones that give me the creeps.
  • what923
    what923 Posts: 100 Member
    I'm glad to see so many people enjoyed this thread. Guess it just goes to show that most people think we have to worry about getting mugged or something but instead it's those sneaky creatures like snakes & deer that might be our true demise! I definitely carry my pepper spray on longer runs (even in town)...I'll have to look into the 'bear spray' at the sporting goods store. A bear or moose would definitely scare me. I'll take a pass on wolves too!
  • allie7383
    allie7383 Posts: 865 Member
    There are deer in the park where I run, and a couple times they've crossed my path, but nothing scary yet! The one bad animal experience was with my fellow man, actually woman lol.. I was in a local 5k and the course was mapped out through the town. Not all of the streets were blocked off/secured, and as I was running through an intersection I saw a woman in her car waiting for people to pass. Apparently she got tired of waiting by the time I came along, and as I began to cross she started going forward! Really!? She stopped and I stopped short out of surprise, gave her a wtf look, threw my hands up and continued on lol. Believe me I wanted to do much more, but there were better things to get done!
  • pdworkman
    pdworkman Posts: 1,342 Member
    Happens to me all the time. Be alert!
    There are deer in the park where I run, and a couple times they've crossed my path, but nothing scary yet! The one bad animal experience was with my fellow man, actually woman lol.. I was in a local 5k and the course was mapped out through the town. Not all of the streets were blocked off/secured, and as I was running through an intersection I saw a woman in her car waiting for people to pass. Apparently she got tired of waiting by the time I came along, and as I began to cross she started going forward! Really!? She stopped and I stopped short out of surprise, gave her a wtf look, threw my hands up and continued on lol. Believe me I wanted to do much more, but there were better things to get done!
  • bluefox9er
    bluefox9er Posts: 2,917 Member
    human beings are still the scariest animal to me..I run through a rather unsavoury neighbourhood..i used to live there years ago..and it never ceases to amaze me how someone in running gear could possibly be perceived as a 'threat' by other human beings.
  • BakerRunnerBadass
    BakerRunnerBadass Posts: 1,359 Member
    I have only encountered dogs in our area, but they have been stressful as I run with my 2 leashed dogs. We had one encounter in which a large German Sheppard ran out from his property, across the road and grabbed my one dog by the neck. Through shouting and high pitched screaming I was able to get it away and get us away from that property. After I stopped shaking I was able to continue, but I had called my husband right after the incident and he decided that we were not continuing and drove out to rescue us. After his threatning call to the owner there has not been another issue, but I definately tense up and notice a difference in the dogs everytime that we pass that place.