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I went to the website to read about it and know no more than before reading it. It is incomprehensible blather https://le-vel.com/Products/THRIVE/DFTBlackLabel

Since you asked, you are wrong. Eat more, lose less. Always.

This thread is arguing theory when the answer lies in a simple personal choice. Each person needs to decide whether they'd rather have an extra 250 calories or an extra 1/2 lb per week. I opted for the extra calories because I was content with my rate of loss and because they extra food was an (not the) incentive to…

Babybel cheese. Fruit. Skinny Pop popcorn. Light and fit yoghurt. Nature valley protein bars.

I don't have time to read all of these, but I did read the Muller article and it doesn't remotely support your argument. No has argued that Adaptive Thermogenesis doesn't exist. But it does not mean that you'll gain weight if you eat to little and it doesn't mean you can eat more to lose more.

Are you sure you calculated BMR, rather than TDEE. BMR is unimportant. Just use the calories number MFP gives you. As others have said, you are making this way too complicated. Eat at a deficit. Eat a reasonable variety of foods. Weight will come of in a healthful manner.

Original post deleted as duplicative, so I'll replace it with: SLLRunner-you are attacking a strawman

Weigh everything. Choose a realistic goal. Eat the number of accurately measured calories MFP gives you for that goal. Don't compare yourself to your husband.

OP: you said nothing about counting calories.

The NIH has now acknowledged that there is no demonstrated linkage between dietary cholesterol and serum cholesterol.

I walk and carry my clubs and I don't walk 8000 steps.

To paraphrase Yogi Berra, weight loss is 80% diet, 20% exercise. And vice versa.

I was agreeing with you, I think. "Them" was calories in. EDIT: and I agree with Vismal as well. Just crossed wires.

Because it's hard to adjust calories in if you're not tracking them?

Stats?

I'm not sure that 70/30 or 80/20 means anything. How would you falsify the claimed ratio? It is certainly true that you can lose weight without exercise and that a as a practical matter you can lower CI by more than you can increase CO. But I'm not sure how either statement becomes a ratio.

As with everything, yes, in moderation. I lost 70 lbs generally allowing myself two pints twice a week. I stayed away from the high alcohol, high calorie brews --hefeweizens are an excellent way to keep down the calories with good beer. In the last few months i've lost that discipline, started consuming more alcohol…

To answer your literal question, if you are using MFP's calorie recommendation, you eat back exercise calories. To answer the unasked question, no, you can't get by on 285 calories plus exercise calories. If you try to do so, you will both hurt your health and set yourself up for failure. You can't undo the cheesecake you…

Why don't you eat 2400 calories and see whether you lose 2 pounds a week, rather than seeking opinions on whether it "seems" too high.

If you are looking for convenience, keep Indian "pouch" food (tasty Bite or trader joes) and pre cooked rice pouches in your desk. A few minutes at the microwave gives you a tasty, filling 300 calorie lunch

Assuming that the scale has been stuck for more than a few weeks, there is no way you are only eating 1400 calories. Your logging is off. By a lot.

Tonight was actually the 3rd or 4th time I've eaten in the middle of the night in the year since I've joined MFP. Before it might have been twice a week. One of many small changes that add up.

from a basic trouble shooting standpoint, your first step should be to double check your logging. The usual advice about digital scales, etc. But if you are comfortable that your logging is accurate, either you need to lower your CI or raise your CO. ultimately the scale tells you how much to eat, not a calculator.

BTW, Demora Fairy, your link to prior threads is hilarious. The things we worry about.

For starters, 20% off 2100 is 1700ish, not 1800. Beyond that, either your logging is off our your actual TDEE is lower than your calculator estimates. Remember that the calculators are just averages for large populations.

I'm better at self-delusion than you. If I post it to yesterday, yesterday is over and there's nothing to be done about it. So why ruin today? Simple delusional logic.

You don't need motivation, you need discipline. There are an uncountable number of "I need motivation" threads on these boards. You'll learn from them that overwhelmingly those who succeed at weight loss attribute it to discipline and those who fail attribute it to a lack of motivation.

I will never understand people for whom good food is not a great pleasure. If skinny is the greatest pleasure in your life, it's time for a new life.

In an odd sense, I think depression helped me. I don't know how to fix any of my other problems, but weight loss was 100% in my control and proving that I could accomplish something difficult and important was its own reward.

This post is the most ridiculous one I have seen. It betrays a complete lack of understanding of how sustainable and healthful weight loss occurs. But if faux toughness makes you feel good, knock yourself out, perhaps literally.