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And I agree. At least I hope water weight is a big factor in this annoying plateau

I'm checking it out right now. It looks pretty awesome. I'll definitely give it a try. Thanks

Wow you are really rude. There was absolutely nothing rude to you in my reply. I just corrected the 210 to 120 meaning no malice whatsoever. And now you're claiming I'm some kind of faker or something? I am getting a really mixed vibe from this site. Some of you are really polite and friendly and helpful. And some others…

My eat below certain weight, diet above it plan is really just an idea. I do have fear that it won't work and that I'll end up screwing up bad and gaining back a ton of weight. I'm honestly not totally sure what the best course is here. I'm trying to weigh everything everyone's saying. But it's hard because some people…

True. I'll start weighing to see if there's a disparity

*facepalm* ya that would probably be easier :p

Didn't mean to be mean at all. All I did was point out that it was 120 not 210, with no rudeness. Then follow it up by talking more about the start/end weights and my goals.

Never claimed to have all answers. Only thing I'm arguing is that I count my calories accurately. Why so much aggression here? I seriously don't get this. I'm not trying to claim to be a know it all. My only points of contention are that starvation mode is a myth, which some here have agreed with me on. And that I log my…

That's why I'm here trying to get advice and understand a bit more about what sub-BRM dieting can do. And figure out why I'm stalling. I don't want to lose all this weight and have a really high fat%

I said 120. I was 320 pounds at the start and 200 at the end. That was my goal weight and I looked and felt really great. Was running half marathons and 10k's a lot again and felt light on my feet. I just want to get back to that point

That's because your claim doesn't make sense so people are trying to figure out where you are miscalculating...[/quote] I understand that. But I log my calories accurately. And have said so.

This is the type of aggressive stuff I'm talking about. I haven't claimed to have anything figured out. The only thing I've disagreed about was calorie counting. I only eat prepackaged meals with nutrition labels that list #servings and calories/serving. That is all I eat and I never miss a log. What is your problem?

Wait a second. What are you saying I'm lying about?

Well.. curls and pushups are basically weight training. Just because I'm not using actual weights in pushups, I am working against weight-based resistance. A month ago I had a hard time benching the bar or doing even 10 pushups. In the month since, I've been following a pushup plan and I can do 86 consecutive pushups and…

I'll do that for the next meal I eat. I guess I'll have to pour everything out of the little portion dividers onto a plate. I'll list the exact meal it is and protein/carb/fat/sodium too.

A - many meals I eat have multiple servings, and I multiply the calories per serving * # servings every time. B - Honestly I'm really hoping the water retention is a big if not primary factor in my plateau.

I never said I was doing anything right other than counting calories. And I am. I'm not preparing my own food so there is no reason to weigh it. I eat prepackaged diet meals with caloric information on the label. It feels pretty aggressive that these people are insisting that I'm not counting everything though.

This is one of my main takeaways from this thread. I am concerned about losing lean mass and other health problems.

Myth.

I listed it as 1-3 exercise sessions per week depending on the options on the BMR calculator and I don't eat back the calories. I've read I should but I figured a greater deficit would yield faster results.

This isn't relevant to me because I'm not preparing my own food at all. If I was I'd weigh it. I'm eating prepackaged diet meals with caloric listings on their nutrition labels.

No. I eat diet meals smartones/leancuisines/healthychoice/etc. They have a nutrition label that says exactly what the total calories for the whole meal is. So that's what I log. Why would I need to weigh it? I'm not preparing my own food. In the past during my huge weight loss, I would prepare some food, and in those…

Yikes. This is getting frustrating. More rude people here than I thought. I am counting accurately. I go by nutrition labels. And there is zero eating that isn't logged off those nutrition labels. It would be super helpful if people could just assume I wasn't an idiot or lying. I'm not making some distinction between mass…

Yep that's how I would do it. Some days I'd weigh less than normal due to water/bowel/glucose/whatever fluctuations and cheat when I maybe shouldn't. But for each day like that, there'd be a day where I'd weigh more than normal due to those things and diet when I maybe didn't need to. It would average out to making sure I…

False. I log 100% accurately. I only eat healthy choice/smart ones type meals and I log everything i eat in a spreadsheet and forget to log or eat some unlogged snack zero times a day. You are wrong and I'm looking for advice/help not predicated on the assumption that I log inaccurately. That's why I was clear about it…

Could you elaborate on this? I'm not disagreeing. I just don't understand how more is less in this case. I can't imagine eating 3k/day and losing weight. But I haven't tried it.

Basically, once I hit my goal weight of around 210 or whatever I'm going to weigh each morning. If I'm under the weight, I eat what I want. If I'm over, I diet that day.

As for the torture aspect, I haven't had any discomfort eating 1000. Whenever I diet, my appetite reduces to match whatever I'm eating. Haven't had any cravings.

re:B - I keep telling myself that. But it's just so weird. Everything I'm doing seems like it should lead to lower weights. re:C - Basically, to fast track it. Also, because I have a hard time trusting the BMR/TDEE calculators. During periods where I've put on 10-20 pounds, I've tried to do a rough calculation of how many…