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Is this true? I've heard number closer to a half pound of LBM a week, or if you gain a pound from week to week then half of it would be fat. That would put you at more than 5lb. a year right?

I figured as much. I want to err on the side of having more data available. I'd rather have two months' of weekly progress pics than just a "start" and "finish". Plus I'm still feeling this whole thing out. Any previous bulks weren't accompanied by trips to the gym, so they were more like "long period of stress eating and…

I hurt myself twice: Once when I got bored of stronglifts and tried experimenting with fancy, technical Olympic stuff and overtrained it and hurt my shoulder. Again, doing stronglifts but not eating enough. I was stuck with the "5 lbs. a week" progression and I let my form suffer instead of deloading or upping my calories.…

But the community of people who are obese or morbidly obese isn't usually one they join willingly (like tattoos) or one they're born into (like sexual orientation). It's something you (one, I) slide into. Society greases the wheels. They become de facto members of the community.

But here's the thing: The bell curve is shifting to the right whether people like it or not. If retailers don't cater to the new distribution of body types then they're going to lose out on sales. So yeah we have to promote healthiness but you also can't expect the obesity rate to decline by ignoring it. Or by saying "Hey…

I struggle with similar ideas. The problem is that "Health" is a broad notion. What if someone has a healthy BMI but they smoke? Or a healthy BMI but no lean muscle mass? Or, what if someone is physically healthy but mentally on the brink? And so forth. It seems like a normalizing to meet the trends. I don't know. It seems…

Negative; I wasn't clear in my initial post but I'm trying to gain and find the prospect, as someone who spent high school fat and college fatter, to be terrifying. And physically difficult and generally confusing.

That can't be right... I'm 5' 11", 193. I've never eaten that much on purpose, for an extended period... ever. I'm sure I've binged that much but man I can't even fathom doing that on purpose. Does it really work? I mean, assuming you're lifting heavy every week like you're supposed to?

Is it best to evaluate weight gain on a rolling average? I keep reading "no more than .5 or 1 lb a week" but that could get difficult to evaluate based on water weight and all that.

I feel like we're all getting trolled but if you want those particular areas to get heavier then you'd want to do some kind of focused strength training that targets your thighs, butt and calves. To the detriment of any other areas. Then if you had fat on top of that muscle then they might all appear larger. Really though…

I'm not going to clean the bar for OHP; I use the racks for it. I've never considered it to be an inappropriate use of the equipment. People use the power racks for deads and rack pulls and cleans and rows and all kinds of stuff that aren't squats. I think people hate curling in the squat rack because it's curls, and it's…

I think the strength training issue needs to be addressed.

Well, I'm working my way up. If it comes down to it I'll throw in some peanut butter and honey sandwiches or something. Something on nice spongy white bread that will leave me hungry 30 minutes later.

Ouch. That implies that poor logging is willful deception.

Are you getting enough protein? Are you progressing (or at least not stalling) on your weight training?

I've read that it can bring increased insulin resistance along with it. So that would entail having to watch your carb intake a bit more than normal. People have also had help with taking 4 - 6 grams of Inositol (a vitamin B complex) daily.

I'm an Excel nerd; when I put the numbers into a spreadsheet and projected x pounds of gain in lean mass and fat and so forth, it was really eye opening. You could look the same at a heavier weight, or look leaner at the same weight. It's really incredible if you can keep your GAINZ during a cut. Which seems to involve…

Awesome, thanks! That's encouraging for when I inevitably have to cut again.

No no, I think I get you. Picking deadlift was a specific and probably poor example. You bulk, you get stronger (probably), your work volume (probably, hopefully) increases. Now maintaining that higher volume on a cut requires more calories than requiring your pre-bulk work volume would.

So if your deadlift goes up by... I don't know, 50 lbs, then your work capacity increases and on cutting, you're in a place where your same three days at the gym (or five or whatever) are going to require more calories than where you were?

This, too. Mostly this.

Yeah I think split routines are generally discouraged for beginning trainees. Something like what you outlined above would add muscle to very specific areas but I think you'd be better off starting out with a solid base of strength first before worrying about devoting two entire days a week to glutes.

Yeah I mean, chains would be nice but...

Ah, good point. Eventually the surplus becomes maintenance again.

That's what prompted me to buy them. I kept trying it with two 2.5's and had to keep taking them right back off. The set was really pretty cheap - I found it for maybe $20? And I guess you can make your own by supergluing giant hardware store washers together but... nah. It came with eight plates, which would be exactly…

Right you are. Like I said - I'm a little fuzzy. I believe what I meant is that I'm going to have to start trying to put on muscle. I can't do that in a deficit. So it might be time to re-evaluate my goals and go from losing fat to gaining muscle.

Yep, I get that. I'm not trying to; I'm trying to cut about 2% BF (trying to hit that magic 10%) which works out to roughly 7 lbs. assuming I don't lose any lean mass.

Wait so... I'm jumping in late here. But you lost 100 lbs. Doesn't that necessarily mean your TDEE is going to be lower? I don't know that it's going to be exactly 1000 calories; let's assume some fudge factors here and there (as people above have explored thoroughly). Your BMR is going to be lower; your burn from…

Yeah, I'm re-running my numbers and I am eking out a slight deficit every week. I'll probably drop the HIIT session so I get an extra rest day in. I figure if I don't lose an appreciable amount of LBM I need to drop 7 pounds to get to 10%. At .5 - .75 lbs. a week that's... a long ways away. My patience is wearing thin for…

Fairly clean; alcohol on weekends. Not enough sleep. I do 20 minutes of HIIT once a week plus some incidental walking here and there.