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So perhaps what we're learning is that my most unpopular opinion is that words matter. I never said that being obese is "perfectly healthy" but I do think that fixation on weight is unhealthy. I joined MFP to be more conscientious of what I'm eating to avoid instances of overeating. Because although overeating makes me…
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I have looked at a lot of pics like that and never seen a comment like that tbh.
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I'm sorry to hear that. I do think it might just be accepted where I live. I have several good friends who smoke and have never heard any of this walking down the street with them.
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1. correlation study 2. says "linked" not causes death 3. says "may shorten" and is once again correlation 4. says it is a "risk factor" not causes death
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thanks dude I'm pretty happy with my level of success. idk about where you guys live but I'm in a university town and so many people smoke. No one ever makes fun of them in the streets. They can buy cigarettes at any store. If you see a pic of someone smoking on fb, there aren't dozen of ppl mocking them and giving them…
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Where did The National Institute of Health print that? All I can find in a website claiming they said that but no proof.
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Semantics are important. Like the way you called fat people just "obese" and called thin people "lean person." Fun dehumanization in action. Why would "an obese" ever want to make healthy changes while being made to feel inhuman? We are not disagreeing, you just don't like my words. But they're important to me.
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People disproportionately voice their distaste for the obese. I've seen so many pictures of thin women eating a mountain of food and people say it's awesome and she's "wife material" and things like that. No one says it's gross or glorifying unhealthy habits. Furthermore, I would argue that people should do a lot less…
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you can think my argument is stupid or disagree with me but no scientist is going to say that obesity causes death. Show me that article. They all say it's linked or it can lead to a cause of death. Your weight is the result of over eating and/or a sedentary lifestyle. Overeating and/or a sedentary lifestyle? leads to…
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a.) plenty of fat ppl don't get those issues and plenty of thin people do... you know that. Why oversimplify? b.) you can be disturbed all you want but I agree with you that the habits and behaviors that got them/us fat probably have to do with a lack of self love. Ergo, step 1 is finding yourself beautiful and lovable and…
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did you? Because, even though I've already read a fair amount of these things, I went out and googled just for the sake of this conversation and didn't find a single thing saying "skinny sucks" or "fat is awesome, get fat" as originally suggested. But I also maintain that a few wackos taking it too far can't be emblematic…
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I think there are like a dozen ppl in the US who are that ridiculous. The idea of fat acceptance shouldn't be judged by that. And look at any single post of a happy, fat, confident woman and you will see comment after comment about how she's gross, unhealthy, promoting obesity, etc. I'm not talking specifically to anyone…
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I was responding to this statement in their post: " I was embarrassed about how I looked, wanted to be able to run again and bike better, and really and truly just wanted to enjoy clothes shopping again and not be depressed every time a photo was taken of me". It made me sad. No one should have to feel that way. Your…
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that's really sad. I'm sorry that you felt that way.
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can you read? I've talked over and over again about healthy lifestyle changes, examples of different motivations and goals.
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It matters to me. Tons of people lose weight via unhealthy means and are lauded by it for society simply because their body is smaller. It's a big problem. 95% of people fail at weight loss because they're not actually trying to be healthier, they're just trying to be smaller.
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have you read what i've been writing? I am reading posts, analyzing them, and rebutting them. Debating doesn't mean I have to change my mind.
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I would argue that the lifestyle changes that you made normalized your blood sugar, blood pressure, etc. Weight loss is a byproduct of healthy lifestyle changes.
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I think the glorification of obesity is a myth. I've never actually seen it. I 100% agree with what you're saying and think most people would. As I've said over and over, the constant mocking and exclusion of fat people is, for many, the reason they don't love themselves enough to make healthier choices. Though the fat…
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but the thing is that accepting your body and deciding to love yourself doesn't necessarily mean you're not trying to become more healthy.
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If you took the time to look over my posts, I've said the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
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as I've said from the beginning: my opinion is that the best thing you can do is make positive lifestyle changes like eating more nutrient dense foods, improving your emotional relationship with foods, using exercise to increase your ability level, etc. I feel that weight loss is a natural byproduct of these choices but…
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cool it's almost like this is a forum thread specifically for people to share their opinions.
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I don't agree with your doctor
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but my opinion is that the goal of losing weight is disordered
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What a ridiculous oversimplification. There is a correlation between obesity and some illnesses. And do you remember what was talked about in high school about the dangers of assuming causation vs correlation?
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I maintain that being hateful and disrespectful towards fat people does a lot towards keep us fat.
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I've been talking to a therapist about this and she's encouraged me to focus on self care. Self care can range from things like a bubble bath or a cup of herbal tea, to keeping your home clean, exercising, etc. Food is a very easy and quick way to turn your mood but if you start adding more and more self care into your…
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like I said in my original post: my opinion is that weight loss should be a byproduct, not the goal. The goal is to feel better, be more physically able, not eat emotionally, love yourself, etc. Weight is just your relationship with gravity. If you make lifestyle changes, you may lose weight, but it's about the weakest…
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This seems like a debate about the idea of health insurance, not fat acceptance.