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"A calorie is just a calorie." 100 calories of chicken, 100 calories of french fries. Both give energy, but the chicken does more. It's just that simple. It's all great and wonderful until you compare molecules and how it works in the body. It's the same energy, true, but how the body reacts to that energy is what really…

"Thus, despite conflicting evidence, the potential benefits of post-exercise supplementation cannot be readily dismissed for those seeking to optimize a hypertrophic response. By the same token, widely varying feeding patterns among individuals challenge the common assumption that the post-exercise “anabolic window of…

From the article. DEPENDING ON THE PERSON "On the other hand, there are others who might train before lunch or after work, where the previous meal was finished 4–6 hours prior to commencing exercise. This lag in nutrient consumption can be considered significant enough to warrant post-exercise intervention if muscle…

Actually the link I posted said it was still possible but it varied, you took the protein part of both articles (which said that particular macro doesn't matter), and make it seem like, overal food timing wouldn't matter because of that and ran with it.

I guess the real question is what would support the claims. If people have credentials and have studied the information, and if it's not good enough what more can you do?

I am not saying the information you are posting from links is wrong, you are, and those links are from people with credentials so yes you have to prove them wrong not me. I am just the relayer of information, since people asked for links, then when they got them it was not true, how convenient. What have I said that…

The evidence I showed is on the back of certain protein powders, creatine and preworkout itself. Also, one study doesn't undo 50 years of what is tried and true, by bodybuilders natural and unnatural, even celebrities for movies. Especially when you can type it in a search engine and comes up that meal timing is important…

Maybe, but until that proof comes it's just speculation.

Actually I linked evidence many times, people with average knowledge, no certificates in training or degrees, nutritional background said it was wrong.

So, does that make it any untrue, or invalid, if both people are on them? It also does not go against what I am showing because it depends on how I work out, how I eat, when I eat (the individual). Just because it doesn't concur with your schedule/beliefs it doesn't make it any less true.

What's the point in adding more calories? A person does it because might gain muscle, because it can work. LOL. The point...

Nutrients as a whole. By the time I can read one response and respond to it, there is 9 more. I am not going to sit here and read and reply to them all. LOL

Mine is logical because it says it can matter, but depends on variables of the individual and what they are doing, when they had their last food intake too. Yours is more specific about protein at least that's what I see and gather and says protein timing does not matter, it's even what you quoted. But once again, I could…

You make it sound so simple, when in reality It varies on the person, how they are training split, fullbody, when, type of exercise. If I exercised when I got up and it had been 8 hours before I had previously eaten or more, it would vary from someone who ate breakfast then 6 hours later and worked out. Since we are all…

You're right I didn't say nutrients but fueling the body doesn't just mean protein either.. I read your article also, and here is my rebuttal. By the way both links have the same dates, so it seems we have a problem. Mine is more logical to me though since it says it varies on the person and they are doing.…

For protein, which I never even mention just one macro/micro. I stated nutrients. What about everything else, did they test that too. wow talk about grabbing straws.

The evidence would be the food reaching the body to give nutrition to wherever is needed. Do you really need a study to know that the faster food is in you, the faster it gets broken down?

I think that some people want a clear and cut answer with a 100% guarantee, and if that answer ever came. I wonder if they would then ask who paid for this study especially, if was against their views.

Just because I put "good information" doesn't mean anything. After working out, one should fuel their body, people have been doing it from the beginning of time in body building and it's still done today, it's tried and true. I think what you're talking about is the amount of time that is , people use to believe you had a…

Making it up? I'm basing it off experience with being a parent, seeing other kids that have been giving the food sources, hearing about on the internet, memes. There are studies as well one can just type it in google. If I keep posting i'll just be here all day defending myself, as it seems no matter what I write, the…

Once again, good information, but what does it even have regards to? Are you giving me information or trying to now talk about protein synthesis.

I don't think a person should avoid "spiking", I would recommend doing it after a workout or before to ensure that energy is efficiently used when the body needs it, and these two times are the only times it really be. But, that is not what I am saying. I am pointing out that foods with high sugar intake spike insulin…

It goes both ways, you don't get any significant bonus by eating processed sugary foods. Although, I do believere most people who are here to gain muscle and be healthy would choose foods in extra micronutrients regardless if it helped or not, and limit others. It just makes more sense to.

Ok thanks for telling me this, but we weren't talking about fat yet at all. One topic at a time.

I'm also pretty sure they are different types of fats, but I'm not gonna sit here all day going over every little detail because you cherry pick a word for phrase and run with it. About the doughnut. Yes there is fat, but there is fat in peanut butter, coconut oils too. The difference once again is what the food is, not…

I can only respond to this by saying you NEED protein, you DO NOT need simple carbs like PROCESSED SUGARY FOODS doughnuts, cookies, ice cream, as you made completely aware by posting this.

I agree!

This really isn't research with some text, it just the explanation. Link http://www.metaboliceffect.com/science-insulin/ "Insulin and fat storage "Many people refer to insulin as the fat storing hormone, but it is important to understand where this comes from. Remember, insulin’s primary job is to lower blood sugar and get…

It had nothing to do with the comment before. That is why I said it, stop taking things out of context.

Not sure what you are saying here, now we are talking about how much mass we gain? I nsulin spikes would be determined not just because you body needs it, it would also be determined by what foods were eaten, soda is a great example of this, and soda is a simple carb.