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Maybe a more credible source for the role of antioxidants and their relationship to free radicals. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3249911/
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Miss, as previously stated, I am a big supporter of healthy eating and a long term healthy lifestyle. I obviously totally understand however your sister's situation. I see it all the time. My guess is that she will be happy with the short term results. After the wedding you may be able to take her to her long term goals…
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Steven, rather than listen to others info or take, read each of the studies yourself so that you may gain a better insight to the reality and validity of each study (or not).
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"I'll just leave it that NO PROGRAM for weight loss works without calorie deficit. And calorie deficit doesn't cost anything." Niner again I agree with you 100%, and with the rest of your post also btw. I do appreciate your sense of fairness and you too seem like you put the well being of others first. An admirable trait…
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Wet, I am a proponent of their healthy aging program. When I "promote" the product, it is usually those products that I focus on. So many ask or are interested in the weight-loss products, there is no getting around that, but it is really not my primary interest, but nor would I apologize for it, because it does help a…
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Thanks Robert. You get it. Some won't let facts or studies get in their way and in a strange way I understand their need for that. I offered the science to the original question and let those that choose to see what they want, be happy with their sight. I'm about health in general and recognize that there are many ways to…
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K you saw 2 independent studies concluding that the products work (not only short term but long term as well). That is the "science" behind their products proven. No one has to like their products, but my whole point is that it certainly is not a scam. I do think we beat it to death, but all the evidence is certainly…
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Yes which is part of the system when using the Isagenix system. But it was their system using their products that was validated by the study. The Skidmore study was concluded in '14 and presented in March of '15. Here is a quote from it: ‘‘ Building on previous studies, our research is the first to demonstrate safe,…
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It achieved the results using the Isagenix products (not sure what you mean by IF). Yes the study concluded in '14. results were extremely favorable to Isagenix.
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Sidesteel, great advice. I have used that in the past and constantly have told others to "just stay out of the kitchen" (tone implied). "Create physical distance from the food. Quite literally, stay out of the kitchen"
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Anvil, you do realize that the study collaborated the science and the effectiveness of the Isagenix products. Yes other things can produce the same results, but the science is there which is the answer to the question that was asked.
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K not to bore anyone else, what did you think of the Skidmore study?
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Jkal, I agree with you. That's what gives this industry such a bad rap. And unfortunately it is more the norm than the exception these days.
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K thanks for clarifying your original statement and one offer to show some of the things that are out there. (It does appear though that others allow their judgement to be impaired by their bias with respect to network marketing, nonetheless): Beginning in 2009 at New York Chiropractic College, “proof of concept” of the…
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K, where did you read that?
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Anvil, I'm sure if you search hard enough you just might find some studies, and independent ones at that, at least regarding Isagenix products. See if I post them, you see I have to defend them as if they were mine and that is not my intention. Also you are free to offer opposing facts if you find them.
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Texas tea?
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Queen, no, and that wasn't my intention. Now what state was that swamp land in? lol
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Christine, price is always a concern of mine too. Some people can not just afford this alternative, and I do steer them in another direction (actually eating healthy, which if you saw I agree with Niner). For those that can or can do the "match and replace" or have reason to believe that they can derive income from it,…
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Jkal, what claims am I making? The question was science or woo, I believe. I offered science (if anyone cares to look for themselves) and personal observation. If anyone was truly interested in the answer, I'm assuming that they did at least that. It surely doesn't matter to me who or how many believe me. For those that…
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Wrong Steve. I answered the question that started the thread. That's what forums and topics promote.
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I'm not asking anyone here to buy anything. I was clear on that. It is the ingredients that "you" must research to see if "you" agree with the benefits (unless you don't think that they put those ingredients in their products). You have yet to demonstrate an opposing factual view. If you have something more to add on free…
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Steven just google if your interested. That is better than me listing. Any nutritional product from any company includes ingredients. You can then "google" those ingredients and see if you agree to what if any benefits those ingredients possess. One ingredient in Isagenix shakes is whey protein. If you agree that you want…
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Just one since you mentioned free radicals, but you can find if you wish. Abstract The interplay between free radicals, antioxidants, and co-factors is important in maintaining health, aging and age-related diseases. Free radicals induce oxidative stress, which is balanced by the body’s endogenous antioxidant systems with…
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There are many articles to back up what I posted. If you have some opposing facts, by all means list them.
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Never professed to be the authority, only answering the question as to whether I have ever seen the results of those that have used the Isagenix products.
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Harriet Hall makes all her money by being a skeptic. No authority here.
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What was meant by open market was in the stores. Let's say a network marketing company is selling pycnogenol alone at 100mg. You can compare that to exactly what is being sold in the stores. A good deal of times a network marketing company may combine ingredients to formulate a product for a specific or multiple purpose…
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Peachy, I agree 100%: Sustainable changes are habits. They're free. Isagenix? Notsomuch.
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I agree, but to my point, make a healthy eating change for only a month or two, and revert back to old habits thereafter and the weight gain surely increases.
