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People will tell you can't build muscle in a deficit but that is not true, it's just unlikely but if you're a beginner it could be your case. Other options are water retention, and weight is not linear, one week you could gain 2 pounds the next week you could lose 3. Take a month's average by weighing at the same time…

All you're going to get is your logging your food wrong. It's the typical answer. I made a post for a friend, come to find out the MFP TDEE is wrong and the food was right. TDEE is like exercise and is often over or underestimated. Reality, most people overestimate the exercise deficit and how active they really aren't or…

That sounds cool, will have to get one of those scales.

I got enough info. I will try to make sure the person measures in grams, and ask them if they are not logging everything. Thanks for all the info. This post can be closed as there is no more gain to be made from it. Thanks!

True, but as I stated 4 times now I did not count exercise at all.

I didn't see this last part, yes they lost 4 pounds before.

I did both MFP calculator and another one and they were like 18 calories off. 100 less, 200 less? If the TDEE is wrong that would help to know.

So, what do you recommend then?

??? So, what was the point of this sentence? P.S. You do understand that online TDEE calculators are only estimates and that 1983 isn't written in stone as his TDEE, right?

So, you think it should be lower?

I've stated they get on average 1600 a day, sometimes less, maybe 80 more on rare occasion that are logged. But then I gave this info to show how I get their maintenance calories. I can give the actual specs: Male. 34 years of age. 5'6" shorter side. 159 pounds now, they were 160-161 3 weeks ago. Sedentary lifestyle, the…

Maybe they want to be private. Actually that is the reason, that is why they came to me. I mean look at the responses. Maybe they don't want to be called a liar, this and that. Just offer advice and move on is what they wanted and now we have a debate over what if, it worked for me, it has to be.

No, I am NOT thinking the person is in starvation mode, I think their metabolism took a hit and the body is having a response and it's time to reset calories (like Omar said in his video I posted.) I believe this happened from the dramatic caloric decrease in food, then how I had the person introduce even more taxing…

There really isn't any advice here to follow but to make sure this person is not lying about what they eat. I am going to recommend the person goes to a Dr. to make sure there is nothing going on we don't know about. If that comes back fine. I am going to have them go back to Maintenan/ reset calories then lower calories…

Omar a certified fitness coach says you can mess up your metabolism if you go to low really fast, and I think this is what happened. Going to go back maintance then recut calories. I'll tell how and if it works.

They are male though it will be a difference

Exactly, that is what I thought 130-160 error logging would still make the person in a deficit . I'll have to ask if they are not logging something at all, not sure why they would go through what they've been through to mess it all up. I did find this interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul-7IGxEY98

The person would have to be eating at maintenance which is 1983 (to not gain or lose weight) calories a day, which would be straight up lying not inaccurately logging. Although, I believe 15 calories here and there would matter we're talking about 300 with a deficit of food alone, and an extra 100 a day with…

You're still assuming it's inaccurate logging. And though it could be you don't know if the person has already lost weight before February. Did they just start at 160 or were they 175 and go to 160. So instead of helping, you are now ridiculing this person and me over an idea that it has to be poor logging. Even though it…

I don't know what her goal is. To me it came across as well, I lost this much weight so it has to work for everyone.

Good job on your loss, by the way!

There is a huge difference in losing 50 pounds as it's easier to lose weight if you have more to lose, not the same as trying to lose 4-10 pounds. No, you did not come here asking for advice, but the advice you give goes against what you're doing yourself. I mean bread is not a slice, but it can be logged as one, even…

I agree the person could lower calories even more and weight loss will eventually happen, but at what point is recommended/safe to keep cutting back. I have nutritional concerns. Making sure macros are hit and nutrients the lower you go the harder it is.

The scale they use does both grams and ounces, it's the same no matter of conversation, as I tested it myself. Then I looked into your diary and see you do the same thing. Northumberland - Cereal Cream 10%, 4 tbsp 60 4 6 1 0 0

I know people want to believe it's inaccurate logging.lying but I don't believe this to be true as since February this person has been doing this logging. So, other ideas on what people think should be the next solution. This person weighs 160 today. again, even though by now MFP said they would be at 155. Maybe muscle was…

The pic posted, does not include exercise into deficit at all.

Because I have the logs and since exercise is not counting toward the deficit it makes it even more accurate.