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I fall in the middle of the healthy scale. Thank god! Now i can sleep at night

But it does assess your health and risk of obesity related diseases based on the assumed fat that your body has, does it not? Hence it categorising people as "obese" based purely on their height and weight

I agree with you in the most part. You definitely hit the nail on the head with "quick and dirty" but also when you suggested that BMI comes from a time long past. You'd think we could move on to slightly more modern and accurate ways of assessment. I agree about using extreme examples to apply it to other people too. But…

You make a good argument, thanks. I'm no expert in caliper measurements either, but I think it would be fair to say that body composition and fat percentage can be determined much more clearly than the BMI scale. Your points about population changes is an interesting one, of which you no doubt have more knowledge than me.…

I've no expertise in this but a study published in the Journal of Translational Medicine concluded it was a "much better indicator of mortality risk". Maybe that's a good place to start

I'd encourage you, again, to read my post properly. I clearly stated that the information on that site summed up my thoughts on why BMI was such a limited tool, and was not a reflection of my thoughts on shape index, of which I have no knowledge

There's some interesting articles and papers that would suggest that calories are not equal, and that composition of your diet does change weight characteristics, regardless of the calorie count

Sorry, I missed your message. In large part, I agree. Which is why I still concede that I understand how BMI can be rolled out as a very general rule of thumb for a massive audience with a huge range of variation. However, the minute a single person asks a question and a single person responds, surely that response can be…

There are plenty of examples of what I've said, you will come across them pretty quickly. I can barely keep up with the speed of these comments, let alone search the forum for all past threads I've read too. My point still remains that the "initial look see" can still be wrong, so it seems useless to start with it at all.…

That's a really interesting point. In my experience in reading these forums it tends to be the people replying who say "whats your height and weight, we can work out your BMI" .....rather than saying "tell us some more useful information so that we can properly help you". But if it isnt that useful then why use it as an…

I'm not sure that's the case. Your doctor gives you advice based on BMI as well as other means of assessment. The instances I'm referring to treat BMI as a single wonder number on it's own with no other questions asked

So would you consider caliper measurements done by someone who knows what they're doing to be less accurate than BMI or more? I'm not sure what you mean in the first few sentences of the 2nd paragraph. Is BMI meant to determine body fat or not? I agree with you about extreme BMI numbers being "likely" to correlate with…

wow these replies are coming through quick, I'll try my best to keep up! It would seem you and I are in agreement then, BMI isn't that much of a useful tool. You need other means of testing to understand the bigger picture.

Sorry, I missed this reply somehow. I would still argue that its broad range makes it less useful, not more so. Again, if I was a government health minister, publicising advice to a nation then this would be slightly more useful. However, in the context of the individual it appears rather rudimentary to me? With regards to…

I do understand statistics. Do you understand the art of reading a post properly and understanding it? I'm talking about giving specific advice to individuals based on their personal circumstances. It's foolish to apply an average to an individual. Imagine what the world would be like if everyone actually had 2.4…

I've no axe to grind. You'll notice my original post has plenty of question marks. This isn't a witch hunt, feel free to engage in the conversation and educate me....I'm not beyond listening to a rational argument. But what seems out of sorts is when one half of a certain argument is made very accurately, insisting on…

I think we've already concluded that it wasn't one thread in isolation, so no ones dying on any hills. How can something with such a broad range of acceptable measurements be classed as "pretty accurate"? Using myself as the example again, I wouldnt consider a 25% range of variability to be "pretty accurate". I'm intrigued…

not exclusively although that thread does have elements of what I'm talking about, yes

I agree with this, especially when seeking a performance benefit. However, if it's a higher intensity than you're used to and it gets the heart beating harder then it's a good start

I used perfectketo.com for a lot of advice. Try there for more specific help :smile:

I couldn't confidently give you any solid advice on which one to choose sadly. I wasnt prepared for the flu and it hit me hard! I took 7 days off work (and in bed). I now use SIS Go Hydro tabs daily as I use them for my cycling anyway, but I can't be certain that they're the best choice

When I look at a BMI chart, the "healthy" range for me spans 20kg. 20kg!! Not only is that an incredibly broad range (25% of my body weight), it doesn't address body composition, which is arguably more important. I understand its use for doctors giving very basic and very broad advice to a wide range of people who are…

good luck, I hope it goes well for you. I'm 4 weeks in and starting to see some benefits now. Make sure you stock up on salt or electrolyte supplements in preparation for "keto flu"

I think the key to your future success will be unlocked with good structured training now. Your weight is fine, aim for a higher FTP. Your w/kg is lower than mine and I am not a competetive racer. I'm 80kg with an FTP of 280w.

Nairo Quintana is 5"6 and 59kg. I think that would suggest that you're fine from a weight perspective (in terms of going as low as sensibly possible). What's your FTP?