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I don't doubt that one can gain on whole foods. At times I've gone up a pound or two. Then back down a pound or two. But 40 lbs on a strict whole food diet? I don't disbelieve it if someone says that happened, I just haven't seen it yet. Maybe the avocado guy, if he can't stop eating avocados, but I can't seem to overeat…

I agree totally that we share similar stances. And I'm sorry about your wife's diverticulitis. But regardless of if we did share stances or not, what I appreciate more is a back and forth discussion without hard feelings or silly argument tactics etc. The psychological battle is something that I can totally appreciate. For…

Well, it would be affected negatively if you gain 40 lbs if that was the only variable we are looking at, but do you know many people who have gained that much on whole foods exclusively? I haven't come across that, but if I did, sure I would encourage them to eat less. But my sense of the quality of food being important…

You stated "The fact is, food has much less importance to your health". That's fact? I mean my stance is the opposite, I think food's influence on health is tremendous, but I preface it with I think or my experience is that this happens. Even though I believe strongly in it and my experiences support that, I still won't go…

Regarding wording.. I don't have a problem with what anybody eats. b/c I'm not in charge of anybody but me. I think you're asking if I'd be ok myself eating it. But to your question, it depends on the actual ingredients more than where they come from. If the twinkie was made witha farmer's industrial seed oils, a bunch of…

Awesome, congrats, I'm glad things are going well for you

Stating that it is "insight" still has the underlying premise that you believe that you are correct about how I'm thinking, without giving room to verify your hypothesis. Let me put this another way. When I try to guess what others are thinking I use words like "it seems to me" or, "I get the sense that" or I ASK. You use…

I'm assuming that you are asking the question honestly and I could answer for hours, but it probably won't be well received by the masses here (because nothing I say on this subject is). My short answer is, just because a food is macro or micro nutrient neutral in the context of someone's daily goals does not mean that it…

Good point, one should always be skeptical about the identity of anyone on the internet. So a reasonable way to express that would be "This person may not be a doctor" or "I have doubts that this person is a doctor". However since there is no way you would know if anyone on the internet is a doctor or not, definitively…

Yes that's tough. I mean, I've successfully navigated somewhat similar situations with people I have given advice to, but for a family of 5, yeah for sure. I'm glad that you escaped the distorted food relationship. For what it's worth, when I give advice, it's always: Don't worry about the best choices, just the best…

I'm sorry to hear about your wife and her family's close call. That must have been rough. More physicians are now airing on the side of trying to prevent the big ticket "western" diseases from happening in the first place, but is that in the best interest of drug companies? From the sounds of your post, it seems like there…

Ok haha, yes, my weekly grocery budget is enormous actually, and it's for the whole family. It would make people's head spin. But it's my thing and I'm doing well for myself now, so why not? Otherwise I'm actually fairly frugal and I save alot. However, I absolutely do not recommend what I buy to others as I do go over the…

No I don't feel that I am morally superior. I was using my stance as a counter example to "the CICO" from the eyes of big business. Apologies if it came across as that way. We don't suggest any of these things because of what you said, even if we can afford them ourselves. Food is a spectrum of choices and some are better…

It's pieces of writing like this last paragraph that have definitely given me a heads up on the types of personalities that employ "emotional reasoning", ie writing their own script of what is going on around them, establishing it as fact, and then behaving based on that script. Getting exposed to this over the years has…

No, they are most often unsuccessful with weight loss AND management of chronic disease when they get seen. Medical train wrecks. However, even much of the healthy looking minority who get seen for random things have a surprising amount of stuff going on on the inside (usually early atherosclerosis, bowel malabsorption…

1. Sure, no issue with what you wrote wrt weight loss. We also focus on health, and are not a weight loss clinic, just a hospital. So maybe my answer was more tailored to that line of thought. And your last line explains reactionary skepticism when anything contrary to conventional wisdom comes up. 2. Yes. Most consistent.…

I mostly interpret scans for all kinds of things, but do see patients face to face too. But more importantly, within the public health care system we function as a team of physicians intent on applying evidence based medicine in combination with things that just plain work in general patient care. We are certainly not a…

You are clearly not a jerk. I actually do apologize now. Our health care is mostly public where I'm from. Private clinics are limited and I don't have one. You should always dismiss the advice anyone on an internet forum gives you :) , but if you do find that you are questioning something or are curious, always best to…

I have benefitted tremendously from being here. One of the biggest obstacles to patient care is... patients. (with respect to weight loss AND health... not just weight loss). Well, more specifically, their outlook and attitudes. As soon as we're able to educate them and get them on the right track, they get success. But to…

There are many sides to the story with respect to the environment and having a pattern of raising animals naturally. Many people assume it's a net loss to the environment, but many can argue that industrialization is a net loss. You're right, people in developing countries need access to cheap food which does not perish…

You are misreading that I think. I'm not disputing the energetics, nor am I disputing what goes on at the cellular level. I'm just saying, some things work, and others don't work as well or don't work at all. I get paid to do what works. I don't want to starve.

Ah, fair enough. Orthorexia would mean your enjoyment of the process was hindered and that certainly isn't a good thing. Regarding cholesterol, the only real ratio I ever get concerned about is HDL/Trigs. And really, this is mostly about the trigs. Your lipid response is actually very typical for paleo primal, and that's…

Awesome.

Not what I was getting at. He was simply flipping the script (which is an emotional response as I outlined in point 3... any emotional behaviour is one in which you probably wouldn't do with a colleague), so I was playing flip the script to point that out.

1. What I was saying is that law or no law, results trump all. Of course I had to take physics and biochem etc as well, and I appreciate the principles. But when application of these "black box" principles fails most patients, you don't be stubborn as a professional and keep insisting that method. I do what works and do…

No, I think I have read before that you did try way the of eating that I currently do. Or maybe another poster said that about you, I'm not sure. But I have to ask... was your barometer of success purely fat loss (because clearly by your profile pic, you have achieved that)?? Because that's the point I'm getting at, is…

Well, hold on, I didn't say that people should "eat as much good food as they want". I'm not at all against the (good!) idea that eating less in general is good for weight loss and longevity (which some literature certainly supports). I have just found that quality is the most important variable because... well you get…

Some do work far better than others, but the research is only a part of the story (because the study designs are horrible in all diet research). By far the most effective ones in practice are LCHF, real food based diets, and work even better with IF. But, this isn't applicable to all. Some do in fact respond to a simple…

No wasn't meant to be a slam dunk, wham bham thank you ma'am, end of story, and although it was one line, it wasn't meant to be a one liner. Just the most powerful truth as I see it with my own eyes. But with respect to the info I have at my disposal, it is by far the most powerful demonstration to me. But of course, it…

If the laws of thermodynamics were so EASILY applied (of course they can be applied, just not EASILY) to the human body, there is a good chance I will have to find another line of work. I am employed because in practice, the application of these laws of thermodynamics are not translating to a reduction in obesity NOR ARE…