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  • This is a decent, well thought out response. But can we address the strawmen in the room? I never argued that people should solely drink ACV to lose weight. That would be stupid. I don't advocate people to solely eat kale to lose weight either, even though it is healthy. It may help, as an appetite suppressant, diuretic,…
  • I identify as a healthy person, and so because of that I do the things that healthy people do. I tell myself that I am the kind of person who works out and eats clean, and so I do.
  • Look, I don't use ACV for weight loss. The marginal benefit does not outweigh the marginal cost, imo. But I don't feel comfortable putting a period where science still has a questionmark.
  • Vinegar isn't sexy. Have you ever tried to get published? Have you ever written a grant proposal? But there is some research, just not a lot. A study in Japan, published in Bioscience, Biotechnology, and Biochemistry (http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1271/bbb.90231), and someone is trying to replicate in America.
  • It's not sexy, so no one wants to research it, nor can anyone make money off of it, so there isn't funding to research it.
  • Its really not that simple. Anyone who has dealt with the NIH or the IRB knows that. And there have been case studies that show that it has some modicum of an effect on weightloss. (http://time.com/4648436/apple-cider-vinegar-weight-loss/ unless The Times is "fake news") but you have to have a greater consensus, which…
  • Actually, proving that something doesn't work is the hallmark of something being a science rather than a religion. It is called falsification.
  • I'm not talking about buying an expensive weight loss supplement. I'm talking about buying a $2 bottle of vinegar. Not the fancy vinegar. $2. And I'm not saying "hey, this has no effect, but you should try it." I'm saying that we really don't know, and if you think it may, then feel free to try it and find out. There is an…
  • Calorie deficits may be too abstract for some people. In order to lose weight, some people need to feel invested in their journey, and taking something may help them feel that way in a way that just cognitively knowing that they have achieved a calorie deficit does not. Another thing that we have not discussed- an absence…
  • The argument is that acv leads to weight loss. You have introduced a reason why it may not be the product itself, but the psychological processes behind it. My point is that just because something doesn't have a physiological affect on weightloss, doesn't mean it doesn't have an effect. It may be a psychological one. If…
  • Helps with gallstones and acne is personal experience. I was on a very natural diet until college when I went crazy on fast, fatty foods. When I started to lose weight, I got pretty painful gallstones, multiple times. The only thing that helped it was vinegar. Instant pain relief, and now I haven't had any in a few years.…
  • It helps with gall bladder stones. It definitely helps with acne. Some studies have shown it helps insulin sensitivity. I'm not such a skeptic to think it won't work, but there is no magic pill... or juice. You can always try it for what- $2 a bottle? If you feel better, then its a success. (And those who scream "maybe its…
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