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I'm 6 foot 1 (187cm), male and I'm not even technically a healthy weight, but I'm a long way from where I started and want to maintain for a while to prove I can and to let my body get used to the changes. I'm currently 91.3kg or 205 pounds. I have been adding calories for a while, since I started with a budget of 2000.…

There's no way I can eat more than 3600 cals of healthy food every day. I guess I will have to try reducing the exercise a bit. I am doing between 1 and 2.5 hours every day, most days close to 1.5, although most of that is walking, so not particularly strenuous. Its a shame, walking with a podcast or audiobook has rapidly…

Ok, so I hit the bottom of my range today, not in a week or two as I predicted. I have lost about 1kg in the last week. A bit worrying. Something wrong with my scales maybe?!

Walnuts, avocado, oats, pumpernickle bread or huel are my options usually, depending on where my macros are. Drizzling with olive oil would also be acceptable.

Hope its the NEAT thing. Its definitely easier to get off the couch when I'm lighter. Plus sitting down is less comfortable with less padding! :smile: I'll prepare myself for the possibility of my TDEE stabilising and me having to cut calories down again a bit though. Thanks for the heads up.

I have a neurotic fear that the gods will strike me down for hubris if I buy new clothes at my smaller size. The only way I can convince myself is to say that the new clothes don't represent an assumption that I have "won", but a tool to help catch it if I start getting bigger (i.e. if my new clothes are getting tight).

Does anyone know of an app that does the more accurate sort of estimate for walking calories?

Thanks @sijomial. I have opened my diary up to friends, if you want to take a look. I don't know uf that let's you see my rate of loss, but Im happy to share more details if it doesn't. I had assumed that MapMyWalk took body weight into account. Is that not so? The HIIT are some "easy on the knees" Jo Wicks YouTube videos.…

Have you considered logging for a while in maintenance? Just to get a feeling for what your maintenance calories look and "feel" like? After a couple of months (3 to 6 maybe), you could try a month without logging, but be honest with yourself if your weight starts trending up, and be prepared to go back to logging.…

Ok, I didn't realise that it takes so long to process food into fat. I concede your point.

Well, I'm judging it by several individual days, but you're right that I haven't tried consuming my estimated calories without exercise for an extended run of days.

Good point. Hadn't thought about NEAT.

That's not always reliable though, for a particular individual. I suspect my TDEE without exercise is less than it says, because I often gain a bit on my rest days, and I'm consuming 70 calories less than it suggests.

Saw Dr after all. Says its rough cartilage on back of knee. I googled that, and that looks like Chondromalacia Patellae, or "runners knee" again, although its fine on stairs. Not arthritis or anything else. The Dr doesn't seem to think I should change my activity. Just told me to take ibuprofen.

Do you include not walking? (I mean walking for exercise, obviously I will be walking around the house) If so, does anyone have any advice for backing off from exercise? My calorie level has been determined experimentally, so I have no idea of how much I can sustain when resting. The only thing I can think to do is cut by…

Thanks. Although as I always say: congratulate me in 5 years when I have maintained it. Basically a rest day, for me, is a day when I don't do HIIT. I still do the same walking and yoga. Rest days are every third day. Thanks!

Unfortunately the chances of getting a physical exam or a scan right now are zero, with the corona situation, but I'm going to talk on the phone today.

Well, I have lost weight and put it on again in the past, but that was by starving myself (not calorie counting) and then going back to "normal". I have never counted properly before, and certainly never counted in maintenence. I guess I just have to hope I'm one of the people it continues to work for, since I have no idea…

70 calories for me! A whole apple! Worth it! In all seriousness, I'm not currently varying my calorie intake according to exercise on a daily basis, so recording it is not likely to cause me issues with consuming too much.

Thanks all. I'm less interested in the calories than in just keeping a record of what I'm doing all in one place. i do find it motivating. At the same time, I don't want the calories to be wildly misleading. So I guess I'll do the recording a block of callisthenics thing.

I occasionally have some of the "Fast 800" shake. I don't generally use them to replace food on a daily basis. I use them: (a) when things really get on top of me and things don't have time to prepare healthy food. (b) if I'm targeting a particular calorie level and my "real" food doesn't quite get me there, so I need an…

Thanks, I'll not panic for now. It would be good in MFP could interoperate with other apps that have a more complete nutritional approach, like CRONometer, that can give you a better idea of your micronutrient intake. Still, I guess that might not be in the interests of either company, commercially.

Thanks @AnnPT77, @cmriverside, @paperpudding, @kimny72 for your reassurances. I'll not panic yet, and I'll put the calories up 50-100 in a few days or a week if the trend continues.

I certainly try to be accurate. I use food scales rather than eye-balling, and for food that changes weight when cooking (e.g. rice, steamed veg) I weight both before and after cooking (at least, when the calories are given in uncooked weight).

@AnnPT77 I certainly hope that its the app underestimating in my case - although I'm fairly content with the amount I'm eating at the moment, to be honest. The only thing that has changed recently is that I have shifted most of my serious exercise to the morning. I don't know if that could make a difference though.

In terms of water weight, I haven't been cutting carbs recently or anything like that. My macros are usually 18-25% protein, and then a more or less even split between carbs and fat, although I try to keep saturated fat under RDA.

My height is 1.87m. My weight is 101.2kg. My rate of loss since mid-May has been 1.8kg per week according to Libra, but 2.3kg in the last week. I have been trying to slow it down by gradually increasing calories, but not succeeding so far.

Really insightful, thanks @gallicinvasion. I have an "all or nothing" tendency which I definitely need to plan around. Also, a big worry for me is what happens if something stops me from exercising (e.g. injury). So I do have things to think about in terms of "curve balls".

I think this is something I can live with if I know there is a light at the end of the tunnel - if the hunger will eventually reduce, or if I will get used to the it.

I'm definitely less hungry on days when I have more protein and fibre. I think fibre is especially important, and the good thing about fibre is that it is often present in high quantities in vegetables, which are pretty low calorie. Here's a good article which usefully features "fibre per 200 calories" for a long list of…