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Admittedly I was a bit busy for a few days and didn't read the responses but I didn't see anyone answer my question. If, when you die, you are faced with a God that is NOT the Christian God you think you know, what will you do? Will you admit that you were wrong in life or will you hold tight to a faith in something you…

Considering the vast majority of people in the world aren't Christian I'd say any god was pretty vague in his telling of consequences. I tell my kids "If you get a bad grade you get grounded." I don't have a stranger knock on the door and tell them that he is there to inform them that I'm going to ground them if they get a…

Ditto - to both of MAB's paragraphs. If your reason to believe is to save your own *kitten* that's not much of a faith. You said if you are wrong the consequences are simply oblivion. True - if atheists are right. What if Hindus are right? Or Jehovah's Witnesses? Or any of these:…

Suicide is a mortal sin. There is no forgiveness possible. Go to hell, go straight to hell. Do not pass Go, do not collect forgiveness. That's one of the big, huge no-nos in Catholicism. I discussed this with a Cardinal (friend of my grandparents) when I was in 9th grade and a classmate killed himself. He said your sins…

The god you believe in sentenced a friend of mine to burn in hell tonight. B was a great guy, a wonderful husband, and a loyal friend. But he experienced things in Iraq that haunted him every moment of every day for the past 9 years. He went to the VA for help but since he didn't do drugs, wasn't an alcoholic, and wasn't…

How does an atheist push their beliefs onto other people? I see Christians demanding that we teach creationism in schools. I've never heard of an atheist saying we need to teach that God is imaginary. I've seen Christians protest that a mosque was being built. I've never seen an atheist protest that a church was. I've had…

I think you're referring to people like me in the last several posts. I was raised Catholic. I believed in God because I was told to. I didn't know any differently. I'm 43 years old now and waver between believing, wishing I could believe, and not believing. I'm more agnostic than anything I guess. I envy those like you…

And there are many, many books by many many authors - some who lived during those times - with stories about the Greek Gods. I'm not saying Jesus didn't exist or that he wasn't a swell guy. But if I don't believe in your version of God then there can't be a son of God. Gandhi was a wonderful man. He helped a lot of people.…

See the chart someone else posted. If God can make things wonderful and doesn't then he is an *kitten*. If you could give your kids 3 healthy meals a day, a roof over their heads, and nice clothes would you? Or would you think it more important that they learn to appreciate what they have by being grateful for a single…

You didn't offer eyewitness accounts. You offered stories of eyewitness accounts from the Bible in order to prove the Bible. It's no different than offering stories of Odysseus's travels to prove Greek Mythology. The problem is what someone else said - you believe the Bible to be a reference book but you are debating…

You're the one with the Bible. What would life have been like if Eve hadn't eaten the apple? That would be a perfect world.

Wow, pissy much? I responded to one post from a previous page and you start sounding off about how many times you've asked a question? (That I answered as I got to it BTW.) How many times have you been asked to provide proof without giving your opinion or quoting the Bible? (Hint: It's a helluva lot more than 3 times.)…

A perfect world would be one with no pain and suffering. No one would need compassion because there would be no need for it. To pull from your Bible a perfect world would be what God would have made for everyone if Eve hadn't taken a bite of an apple and caused God to throw the biggest temper tantrum ever and punished her,…

No you haven't. You've provided stories of eyewitnesses from the Bible to prove that stories in the Bible are true. It doesn't work that way. If someone doesn't believe the Bible is true then why would a story from the Bible prove your point. That's like saying you don't believe in Greek Mythology so I can provide a quote…

Your Bible is as much mythology to many as stories of Zeus are to you. If I quote from The Odyssey or Socrates you'll brush it off. But your quotes from the Bible are no different at all. God is eternal and self existent ONLY because that's what you believe. No proof at all. Just opinion.

You were outraged that I compared witness claims of seeing Jesus nearly 2000 years ago to eye witness report accuracy of another customer in a restaurant then you turn around and compare giving a child all the junk food they want to ending the suffering of a child with cancer?? LOL I wouldn't exactly call your comparisons…

There were eyewitnesses to the Greek Gods coming down and to Cyclops and Medusa too. Are they fact now? Greek Mythology is nothing more than religion that no one believes anymore. Your "something created the universe" argument is also flawed. If something cannot come from nothing then where did God come from? If He has…

A scientific theory is not just a guess. It's not even remotely the same as "I have a theory that rain is when God cries." Gravity is a scientific theory. Does that mean that it's possible that the only reason things don't randomly float around is because God is holding them down? Not even a little bit. There are some…

Back in the day there were plenty of witnesses who saw the Gods come down from Mt Olympus too. Any attorney or police officer will tell you that eyewitness testimony is the most unreliable evidence there is. If you walk into a restaurant and 2 hours later everyone in there is asked to describe you odds are no one will…

Yes, I know Allah means God but most people disagree that it's the Christian version of God. I find it humorous that you are getting picky about "thousands of years" with a difference of a few centuries when the Bible wasn't even written until around that time and there weren't "millions of followers for thousands of…

Millions of people for thousands of years believe in Allah too. Millions of people for thousands of years believe there is no God. You have yet to offer any proof at all. "I believe" isn't proof it's faith and no more proof than "I believe in wizards" is proof of magic.

Proof is about WAY more than seeing something with your own eyes. I can believe in fairies and wizards. That doesn't make them real. I can disbelieve in the Holocoust. That doesn't mean it wasn't real. So far you haven't given any proof that doesn't amount to te exact same thing that can be said about hobbits and orcs.…

You have no evidence for the existence of a God. No one does. That's why it's called "faith".

Apparently "There's no proof there isn't" = proof there is. In that case though there is a Bigfoot and a secret school for witches and wizards. Afterall, there's no proof there isn't.

Prove that there is no hidden school for wizards and witches. Prove that there are no aliens. Prove that Zeus isn't real. You can't. You cannot disprove a negative. To ask someone to do so basically says "I have no valid proof for my POV so instead I'll try to turn the tables on you." IF there is a God AND it's the…

I can't help but smirk when people say "God is all knowing, all loving, and all powerful." They actually don't see that it's impossible for that statement to be true.

No way. There are a LOT of really crappy parents out there. If a woman divorces her husband because he's abusive, using drugs, etc he should pay child support if the kids are his but he shouldn't have any custody of the kids if he's a danger to them. Child support and visitation/custody are not and should not be tied…

Criticizing Obamacare because it doesn't do enough then wanting to move to a country with completely socialized healthcare and saying they have great health care makes sense. Criticizing Obamacare because it exists at all and hating that it uses tax money to help people who have no health care then wanting to move to a…

Can you nap in the early evening? I've been all over the board with my hubby as far as time differences. I actually have a clock on my computer screen that I set to his tim zone so I know what time it is wherever he is. (On your main screen right click, select gadgets, then clock)

I thought you hated socialized health care? Or is that only when it benefits someone else?