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if you are going over your range on a regular basis by eating those calories i would think differently, but if you are not going over, and your hungry, eat those calories back, but i don't believe you have to even when your not hungry. i didn't intend that to come off as talking about eating in general, just when…

why do people keep saying this? couldnt opposable thumbs be the reason? my dog loves milk, and i can name a lot of things we eat that animals don't it doesn't mean its bad it just means they can't .

if you are going over your range on a regular basis by eating those calories i would think differently, but if you are not going over, and your hungry, eat those calories back, but i don't believe you have to even when your not hungry. i didn't intend that to come off as talking about eating in general, just when…

What paleo purist thinks fruit is bad?

I eat if I'm hungry, If not I don't .

I'm personally on this fad diet. My weight has dropped, my energy is high, rashes that I had for 12 years are gone , i dont have cravings like i did before, and my hypertension is under control. So it may not be for every one but I'm a big fan. I guess it's a good thing I don't go off of USA today popularity polls.

This is what I noticed also. If your going to put your body through the stress of excersice, consume the food needed to repair it.

i was actually raised in the industry. corn receives a lot of government help but its now mainly in the form of forced ethanol production, and that has not helped the beef and dairy industry in fact it has almost crippled it by driving the price of there main feed source higher than it ever should be. I'm not to sure about…

for the record the dairy industry doesn't receive much in the way of subsidies, and though I'm not sure about the beef industry i don't think its as much as people think. the most subsidized is the corn and overall grain industries. actually if not for the government meat and dairy could be cheaper. Government ethanol…

this is what i have assumed since thats what i have observed watching wild animals also

vergingonvegan, im curious since you pointed out that herbivores often consume meat, and i agree because i have seen that in many feed lots and dairies when its mixed into their feed. my question is how many of these herbivores seek meat out when in the wild? because humans do.

I agree to really fit close to your ideals you would need to raise your own.

i do admit that in the egg, and dairy industry your life span will be short if your born male. i was raised around the dairy industry and some of the stuff even rubbed me wrong. but it can be done humanely if someone wants to.

i have wondered about this too. i know a woman who has chickens that she treats like children. she even has air conditioning and a heater in the chicken coop. she even takes care of the ones that are no longer producing eggs they are pets to her. so whats wrong with her eating the eggs? the chickens are not mistreated.

I have no objections to a vegan diet if it works for you. Before I went primarily primal my body had such bad rashes it was sometimes hard for me to sit, and I had hypertension. Now the rashes are gone and my blood pressure is normal. I think the two diets are far superior to the standard American diet.

There is no reason for a primal or paleo person to disrespect or put down a vegan. I'll even agree there is more of a reason for you to be against paleo sense it is against your values . all I ask is for honesty about the true motives, instead of hideing behind it being about health.

Also I respect people who abstain from meat for ethical reasons but to be honest it looks to me like that's the main reasons people and cultures that have practiced it do and only sense the fat paranoia has it been health.

This is exactly what I keep pointing out to people. Paleo is mainly just like vegan just with meat. So why is so much of the vegan communities wrath pointed at paleo instead of the main American diet on these forums?

most of the podcasts, and websites dedicated to paleo, and primal eating talk regularly about fasting.

i actually do intend on reading about it. not that i think it even matters.

im not sure if there is actually proof of the essenes being vegetarians. they were extremely devout jews so im fairly certain the practiced animal sacrifices. this is likely peta propaganda.

so the only big difference in our diet is i eat real meat? and i dont think a diet of meat, fruit , vegetables nuts and tubers is new. but yes the name is

back to the original subject would hunter gatherers really burn any more calories than modern day people? to be honest when i see animals in the wild they are usually standing around or laying down. they only seem to run when catching food or running for their life.

its odd that a diet encouraging meat, vegetables, fruits and tubers is considered a fad. but a diet that includes fake soy meat is not.

I dont understand opposition to a diet that encourages people to eat unprocessed food like meat, fruits and vegetables. To my understanding there is no limit on carbs unless your trying to lose weight, as long as they come from fruits,vegetables and tubers. I do not believe the pale or primal diets actually mandate any…

so are your main problems with the diet the name , and the fact it includes meat? because even a lot of vegan diets want you to avoid wheat and sugar

I rarely eat breakfast before 10 or 11 and i only eat 2 meals a day. Now that I removed the sugar and grains from my diet Im also never very hungry . The reason all the books and magazines want you to eat constantly is because they are peddling supplements, nutrition bars, and protein drinks.

It's quite the headline that it happened there, but it's those people's lifestyle giving them heart attacks ,not the occasional meal at the heart attack grill. I will probably go there next time I'm in Vegas. I love a nice big burger although I would skip the 2 pound 5000 calorie version simply because I couldn't handle it.